2019-20 Roster Speculation Part 9

[tsujimoto74]

Last thread over 1k, carry on here.

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[lauraP]

How do you figure we get rid of Okposo?

A 1-year cap dump cost the Leafs a 1st round pick

yeah but we're not in cap hell no one wanted to do the leafs any favours that's why it cost a 1st
we roughy have 25M coming off the books
with

Montour
Mitts
reinhart
oloffson
Larson
Girgs
Ullmark

To resign or let some go

not in any cap trouble at all if we wanted to get rid of okposo it would be out of luxury not out of need like the leafs did with marleau

 

[threeVo]

The Leafs were desperate to shed that cap space, the Sabres arent at that point yet. As for Hall he would be an amazing rental if we could limit the damage to 1st+Pilut+something else

 

[jc17]

How do you figure we get rid of Okposo?

A 1-year cap dump cost the Leafs a 1st round pick

I think the odds of us getting out of his contract for a reasonable price are slim, but Toronto needed immediate relief, their first rounder was probably valued by everyone as a late first, and although everyone likes to talk about the "market prices" its so much more fluid than people make it out to be.

Again, I think it would cost us more than we want, but nothing is definite just because of Toronto's situation

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

yeah but we're not in cap hell no one wanted to do the leafs any favours that's why it cost a 1st
we roughy have 25M coming off the books
with

Montour -5
Mitts - 3
reinhart - 8
oloffson - 5
Larson - 2
Girgs - 2
Ullmark - 2

To resign or let some go

not in any cap trouble at all if we wanted to get rid of okposo it would be out of luxury not out of need like the leafs did with marleau

They have 34M to sign those players, AND another 6 (1D, 5F) to bring them to 23. At league minimum for the make-weights that leave 28M for those 7. Quite a close shave.

 

[Snippit]

yeah but we're not in cap hell no one wanted to do the leafs any favours that's why it cost a 1st
we roughy have 25M coming off the books
with

Montour
Mitts
reinhart
oloffson
Larson
Girgs
Ullmark

To resign or let some go

not in any cap trouble at all if we wanted to get rid of okposo it would be out of luxury not out of need like the leafs did with marleau

We’re not in cap trouble but I don’t think it’s feasible to sign Hall.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

We’re not in cap trouble but I don’t think it’s feasible to sign Hall.

They'd need to move on from Reinhart or Skinner.

 

[TehDoak]

They'd need to move on from Reinhart or Skinner.

No one, and I mean no one is touching that Skinner contract.

 

[tsujimoto74]

We’re not in cap trouble but I don’t think it’s feasible to sign Hall.

Agree. We'd have to find a way to dump Okposo, and quite possibly some other players, to make it happen. Hall's probably looking at Panarin money. Scandella, Bogo, and Sobotka coming off the books frees up room for Reinhart, Montour, and Mittelstadt extensions, but we don't have enough room to make a major addition like that. Even if we did, we'd probably be putting ourselves in a tough spot with Dahlin and Jokiharju's next contracts.

 

[Zman5778]

No one, and I mean no one is touching that Skinner contract.

If he keeps producing the way he has been........he's worth the contract and as the cap goes up the contract COULD look better and better. If he keeps this up.

 

[Jim Bob]

The Sabres don't need to overpay for a UFA like Hall.

They need to keep the pipeline of kids to produce players and get a value UFA or two.

And as far as Okposo goes, he will have two years left on his deal when the Seattle expansion draft rolls around. I wonder what the realistic cost would be for them to take him?

 

[lauraP]

We’re not in cap trouble but I don’t think it’s feasible to sign Hall.

i never said anything about signing hall

 

[Club]

I like Schmaltz. Im now a fan boy.

 

[Chainshot]

The Sabres don't need to overpay for a UFA like Hall.

They need to keep the pipeline of kids to produce players and get a value UFA or two.

And as far as Okposo goes, he will have two years left on his deal when the Seattle expansion draft rolls around. I wonder what the realistic cost would be for them to take him?

Agreed. It's fun to play EA NHL on the console, real life is something else entirely.

 

[TehDoak]

If he keeps producing the way he has been........he's worth the contract and as the cap goes up the contract COULD look better and better. If he keeps this up.

If it were a 3 year deal, 9.5M would be fine.

The problem is that its an 8 year deal with a full NMC. The question is will the cap go up enough to overcome his decline over time.

 

[Snippit]

i never said anything about signing hall

Yes but that's what my original post was referencing.

 

[tsujimoto74]

If it were a 3 year deal, 9.5M would be fine.

The problem is that its an 8 year deal with a full NMC. The question is will the cap go up enough to overcome his decline over time.

Skinner's contract is fairly buy-out friendly in the last couple years, in the event his play falls off that bad and we can't get anyone to take him. (If he's bought out with 2 years left, the Sabres take dead cap hits of 4-6-2-2, for cap savings of 5-3-(2)-(2). With 1 year left, the cap hits become 5.66 and 1.66, for cap savings of 4.33 and (1.66).) It's not like Okposo's contract where a buy-out would result in virtually no cap savings.

 

[lauraP]

Yes but that's what my original post was referencing.

but our conversation had nothing to do with that ?

 

[Snippit]

but our conversation had nothing to do with that ?

My original post was quoting someone else who was talking about signing Hall

 

[SundherDome]

The Leafs were desperate to shed that cap space, the Sabres arent at that point yet. As for Hall he would be an amazing rental if we could limit the damage to 1st+Pilut+something else

And Carolina let them off easy.

 

[Chainshot]

And Carolina let them off easy.

It's not like they didn't rope in a first round pick for Marleau. That's a quality cap-use move for future assets.

 

[Buffalo Norsemen]

If Hall is unhappy in New Jersey is he really going to want to come to Buffalo? I mean we all pretty much love out town but we know the reputation the city has in the league.

 

[Buffalo Norsemen]

If he keeps producing the way he has been........he's worth the contract and as the cap goes up the contract COULD look better and better. If he keeps this up.

Is there a top 6 or even 9 pipeline of scoring in the system ? I'm actually a little worried about that.

 

[joshjull]

 

[Chainshot]

If Hall is unhappy in New Jersey is he really going to want to come to Buffalo? I mean we all pretty much love out town but we know the reputation the city has in the league.

Not only that, what is it going to cost in assets to acquire him and then what is it going to soak in cap to recoup that investment? This is a recent league MVP. Jersey isn't going to just let him go, especially after they made moves specifically to shore things up to make it seem like they were operating with him in good faith.