2019-20 Official Hollywood Top 35

Hollywood3

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This is the pre-season table and is NOT a ranking. The regular season starts Wednesday in the AUS and Friday in the CW. The OUA waits until October 2nd.

I have not double-checked all results. Sometimes games are added and not publicized very much.

There were also a lot of cancelled games. UNB and York started a game and had to abandon due to ice conditions, the Lakehead series with Laurentian was a victim of late renovations, and others were just voluntarily squelched.

In a disappointment, there were only three interlocking games between the OUA and AUS (out of four scheduled), and neither conference played a CW team. There also seem to be fewer than usual games against NCAA teams.

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* indicates total includes a tie game
Conf. indicates overall conference record
Con-x indicates exhibition record within conference
CIS-x indicates exhibition record within CIS but outside conference
CIS indicates regular season and exhibition record against CIS teams
Other indicates record against non-CIS teams
Total indicates record against all teams


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Hollywood3

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Since many OUA teams have yet to start their regular season, this is, once again NOT a ranking. I have not yet declared any A level teams. Most teams are starting at C+, with a handful at C and two handfuls at B.

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* indicates total includes a tie game
Conf. indicates overall conference record
Con-x indicates exhibition record within conference
CIS-x indicates exhibition record within CIS but outside conference
CIS indicates regular season and exhibition record against CIS teams
Other indicates record against non-CIS teams
Total indicates record against all teams


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OHT35: Week 4: October 13, 2019

This was the first week where all teams were playing regular season games, no exhibitions. Although the results are very preliminary and subject to massive change in coming weeks, there is now enough data for a ranking. So here it goes.

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The rankings are largely based on the AOA ("average of averages"), with one main exception. Check the Brock/York area. At this stage, due to small numbers (or no numbers) in some segments, oddities arise. Those teams have identical records against the same level of opposition, but Brock is marginally better in non-conference play.
 

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OHT35: Week 5: October 20, 2019

So the season is really in full swing now. Here were the highlights of the week that was:

Canada West:
- The three winless teams all won their first (Regina and &UBC split with one another) or their first AND second (Sask swept Lethbridge).
- Manitoba's split with Calgary and MRU's split with Alberta raised eyebrows across the U-Hockey world.

Ontario:
- This was week 2 of the East/West interlock. Last week the East won 7-3 and this time they won 6-4.
- Promoted teams were Western Ontario (from C to C+) and Guelph (from C+ to B).

Atlantic:
- Acadia made the jump from B to A, and #1 in the overall rankings.
- Dalhousie is exceeding expectations.


Links:
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This week, McGill's and Brock's AOA number was lacking accuracy due to small sample size, and they were adjusted accordingly.
 

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OHT35: Week 6: October 27, 2019

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There were no category shifts this week, but those bubble teams could all shift next time. As usual there are a few spots where results are skewed due to small sample size.
There were no interlocking games between OUA East and West, nor were there any non-conference games. Therefore those charts were not changed at all and I left them out of this post.

Links:
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OHT35: Week 7: November 3, 2019

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The OUA West went 8-0 against the OUA East to really turn that around.

I applied result “smoothing” for the first time in situations where just one game has been played in a category. Categories are merged and the value applied to both, but the value cannot be increased beyond the default value. (Example 1: 1-0-0 and 3-2-0 would be 100% and 60%. When "smoothed" each would be 67%. Example 2: 0-1-0 and 3-2-0 would be 0% and 60%. "Smoothed" would be 50% each, but the 0-1-0 would be a maximum of 25% if it is for a one level higher team.)

In the OUA, Ottawa, Guelph, Lakehead, and Nipissing went down a level. And going up a level were Toronto and Brock.

No teams switched categories in the CW or AUS.

I have introduced some sub-categories, with a view to a major re-shuffle coming up. The B- and C++ could be merged into an expanded B level.

Links:
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OHT35: Week 8: November 10, 2019

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After going 8-0 last week, the OUA West went 7-2 against the OUA East to really alter the relative rankings of those divisions.

The “smoothing” seems to work pretty well. The AOA when smoothed yields a pretty accurate ranking.

This week the category shifts are:
- Calgary demoted from A to B
- St.F.X. demoted from B to C+
- Dalhousie demoted from C+ to C
- Saskatchewan, Ryerson, UQTR promoted from C+ to B

The teams in yellow kept moving each time I recalculated, so ultimately (after 4 sweeps through the numbers) I left them where they are.

Links:
Schedule
Standings


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Hollywood3

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OHT35: Week 9: November 17, 2019

After last week, I did another run through with the yellow teams from C+ moving down to C. That was actually a better ranking, so I used that as a starting point.

Then, UBC swept Lethbridge causing them to switch places, UBC moving to (staying at!) C+ and Lethbridge moving down to C.

The AUS saw St. FX move up from C+ to B. They are likely the one team to switch categories more than any other over the years.

A few OUA teams moved down from C+ to C: Waterloo, Concordia, McGill, and York. Also, Ryerson went from B to C+.

The OUA interlock is winding down. There was one game this week (York's win over Nipissing) and one game remains, to be played in January (Queen's at Guelph).

Links:
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OHT35: Week 10: November 24, 2019


This week Ryerson and WIndsor from C+ to B and St. FX went back to C+ from B. MRU broke through with a move from B to A. None of those may last very long, since positions are very sensitive right now.
Next week is the Christmas break and the “smoothing” in situations of just one game will be extended. There are some examples here where rankings have been skewed by the profound impact of one game. Anomlies are Acadia ahead of UNB and Lethbridge being tied with UBC. The AOA is, overall, pretty good.

The teams to shift are highlighted.

Links:
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OHT35: Week 11: December 3, 2019


With this being the last week before exams and Christmas breaks. There was one rescheduled game on Tuesday (Ottawa v UQTR) so I waited for that result before issuing this. I also double-checked all scores and standings. Two OTLs were missed by me. The USports site, as of Dec 5th, was missing about 7 or 8 OTLs. Jeesh.

The shifts were:
MRU down from A to B
Lethbridge up from C to C+
McGill up from C to C+
Moncton up C+ to B

Also, the C- teams improved to be C level, except for Laurentian, who start the D category. The teams to shift are highlighted.

Links:
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Dec 30: Week 12: Mini-Ranking


Since the regular season went into break mode after week 11, it was hard to tell what this should be called. The weeks without games are IMO non-existent. So here's week 12.

There were very few games and none affected the rankings at all. So all I have included are the supplementary charts. The only remaining inter-conference game is the Army v RMC match coming in January. Even the OUAE v OUAW interlock has just one game left, Guelph v Queen's. So those charts are almost done for the year.

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OHT35: Week 13: January 5, 2020

Some teams are hard to categorize. This week, UQTR drop from B to C+ and Lethbridge drops from C+ to C. Nobody moved up. However, Sask (to A) and Guelph and Ottawa (to B) were not far off. UBC were also close to a move down from C+ to C.

The teams to shift are highlighted. Only one team remains using AOA "smoothing", or combining, categories because Windsor against B level oponents is the only square on the table with just one result. (Oddly, Carleton has no games against B level teams.)

Also, over the break McGill had a non-conference loss to Yale which was not on the original schedule.

Links:
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OHT35: Week 14: January 12, 2020

The teams to shift are highlighted and they are UBC and Western Ontario drop from C+ to C, and Sask gets a boost from B to A.

A sub-category of C- is noted, but does not affect rankings.

OUA interlock is done for the year, and the West won by exactly a 60-40 margin. Pretty decisive.

Regina was in contention for the ***-ender award and dunce hats, but look at them driving to near the top of the C level, with visions of a C+ dancing in their head.

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OHT35: Week 15: January 19, 2020

UBC is a yo-yo team, this time moving back to C+ from C. Meanwhile, two losses against B teams drop Windsor significantly and they shift to mid-C+.

RMC finished the non-conference schedule for the season, with a big win over Army. Not a significant ratings shift but still a big win for them.

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OHT35: Week 17: February 2, 2020

This ranking took longer to do because I missed last week. Oddly, the only movement was downward and the AUS featured. Acadia got the boot from A and Moncton from B. Brock went from C+ to C, leaving a remarkable C-ward skew in the OUA.

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Really appreciate all the work you do on here , between your rankings (which are way more on point than the actual top 10) and your Canada west thread which basically is the main thing I use to follow CW since most games are after my bed time haha!!
 
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Carleton's not as good as their record suggests. They are 11-3 in 1-goal games, which is typically a sign of good fortune rather than a good team.
Compare that to McGill's 6-6 record in 1-goal games.

I'm concerned about the lack of high-end teams in the OUA this year. I expect the playoffs to be rife with upsets, and the OUA teams to do even poorer than usual at the University Cup.

I hope I'm wrong, but it's leaning that way.
 

Hollywood3

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Carleton's not as good as their record suggests. They are 11-3 in 1-goal games, which is typically a sign of good fortune rather than a good team.
Compare that to McGill's 6-6 record in 1-goal games.

I'm concerned about the lack of high-end teams in the OUA this year. I expect the playoffs to be rife with upsets, and the OUA teams to do even poorer than usual at the University Cup.

I hope I'm wrong, but it's leaning that way.

The OUA West seems to be mostly equal-calibre teams. It makes for interesting conference playoffs. But I agree that a win over Alberta or UNB would be a major upset for an OUA team. However, if the top 3 OUA teams go, one of them could get a win. That would be progress.
 

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Acadia was a very strong A team up until Feb 19th. UNB was 2-2 against them so they had a 2-2 record against an A team but that disappears somehow when Acadia drops down to B.

Why is that, if the results are equally weighed. Shouldn't an A win should stay an A win while recent results; UNB 14-0, Saskatchewan 11-0 and Alberta 8-2 have very little effect on the rankings? UNB's A wins disappeared because of recent Acadia results so recent results can affect your charts and ranking but in a negative way only, it seems?
 

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Acadia was a very strong A team up until Feb 19th. UNB was 2-2 against them so they had a 2-2 record against an A team but that disappears somehow when Acadia drops down to B.

Why is that, if the results are equally weighed. Shouldn't an A win should stay an A win while recent results; UNB 14-0, Saskatchewan 11-0 and Alberta 8-2 have very little effect on the rankings? UNB's A wins disappeared because of recent Acadia results so recent results can affect your charts and ranking but in a negative way only, it seems?

The tables are adjusted each time as teams shift categories. At the start of the year you don't know if a win over Team A will be a big thing, middle thing, or little thing.

Also, the AOA (average of averages) helps when you might not have games against a category. In that case I apply the historical default value (50/50 within your category, 75/25 one category different, 88/12 two categories apart, 94/6 three categories apart). So UNB would have a default 50 for that category.
 

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Hollywood3, thank you but I'm afraid that your elaborate statistical breakdown is pretty hard to follow. All I know is that Acadia was an A team for 10 consecutive weeks and were actually #1 for 3 of those weeks hardly a very small sample, so wins over them during that time period were certainly quality wins.
 

Hollywood3

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Hollywood3, thank you but I'm afraid that your elaborate statistical breakdown is pretty hard to follow. All I know is that Acadia was an A team for 10 consecutive weeks and were actually #1 for 3 of those weeks hardly a very small sample, so wins over them during that time period were certainly quality wins.
In hindsight, they were not. Same with Calgary. Other teams got stronger. Small sample size sometimes makes us over-react to early season results.
 
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OHT35: Week 18: February 9, 2020
End of the Regular Season

The regular season finale resulted in a few rankings which called for switched from the "Average-of-Averages" numbers, most due to the domino effect of AUS numbers falling down due to Acadia's fall from A level. Here's the rankings, with explanatory notes to follow. Since this marks the end of the regular season, all supplementary tables are included.

Links:
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You will note the deviations from AOA were these:

- Alberta below UNB
- Ryerson below Toronto
- Nipissing below RMC
- SMU and UPEI were not moved down a level

Sometimes average are unduly swayed by sample size and other factors. Alberta, Ryerson, and Nipissing were all moved down based on the head-to-head comparison method. SMU and PEI stayed a level above what their AOA would suggest due to the AUS anomaly which hit the rankings recently. In fact, when we look at the rankings skew, I am not comfortable with the AUS falling from 1st to 2nd. The numbers do suggest that the AUS's mid-5 may be fairly equal, but not really national threats, whereas the CW's top-4 are very competitive. We'll see at the nationals.
 

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