Prospect Info: 2019-20 Flyers Prospects - Top 30 SKATERS, #16

[Curufinwe]

Top 30 SKATERS

1. Frost, Morgan - 73%
2. Farabee, Joel - 52%
3. Myers, Phil - 87%
4. York, Cam - 59%
5. Ratcliffe, Isaac - 53%
6. Brink, Bobby Orr - 69%
7. Rubtsov, German - 58%
8. Allison, Wade - 39%
9. Morin, Sam - 29%
10. O'Brien, Jay - 38%
11. Zamula, Yegor - 41%
12. Hogberg, Linus - 27%
13. Laczynski, Tanner - 43%
14. Vorobyev, Mikhail - 33%
15. Kalynuk, Wyatt - 42%
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[DancingPanther]

You all have been wrong for weeks

 

[dragonoffrost]

You all have been wrong for weeks

PROVE IT

 

[DancingPanther]

PROVE IT

Well I ain't often right
But I have never been wrong

 

[Rebels57]

I like NAK here.

His 5v5 production at the AHL level in 17-18 was pretty damn great for his age. Despite getting jerked around by Hak last season, he actually scored goals at a better rate in the AHL than he did the season prior. I also like that he plays with an edge, will give him one more tool to find his way into an NHL bottom 6.

Really important season for him though. Could plummet in the rankings next summer if we don't see him make an impact at the NHL level at some point.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Well I ain't often right
But I have never been wrong

So you've left?

 

[VladDrag]

Went Kase here. Would be cool with a lot of players at this spot including: Cates, St. Ivany, Friedman, maybe NAK. Probably a few more, but getting to the point where I just haven't seen a lot of these guys enough to definitively rank them.

Curious as to where Strome ends up. Saw him a fair bit last year when watching for Kaliyev. His skating has improved since his draft, but I don't know if will ever get to where it needs to be to get into the NHL.

 

[VladDrag]

Well I ain't often right
But I have never been wrong

Such a cliche, but this is one of my favorite. Listening to it now!

 

[Rebels57]

Ginning starting to get votes

He's behind all of the D prospects we still have left on the board, especially Attard who I think is getting slept on a bit in this poll.

 

[Tripod]

I just saw that Attard started playing defense at the age of 14. Did not know he was a forward before that. Was this mentioned before and I missed it?

 

[Stizzle]

I'd gamble on Jack St. Ivany.

My viewings are limited, but he seemingly has a lot going for him. Very, very toolsy.

Edit:
Cates, Friedman, and Wylie would be in my next grouping of players I've actually seen.

Attard, Millman, and Serdyuk are all candidates as well. I just haven't seen them much, or in Attard's case, at all.

 

[deadhead]

Cates again, he's just more polished than NAK with more upside.
Attard and Millman are hard to place.

Millman had a nice CHL debut as a true 17 year old, but you're projecting both physical development (6'1 176) and improvement.

Attard had a monster goal scoring year in the USHL as an overage (19), but does that translate? As a 20 year old at Western Michigan, we'll know within two years if he's for real (if he's not a top NCAA player as a 21 year old sophomore, his upside is probably limited).

Ginning to me is a low ceiling/high floor (3rd pair defenseman).

 

[deadhead]

I'd gamble on Jack St. Ivany.

My viewings are limited, but he seemungly has a lot going for him. Very, very toolsy.

How's his skating, have read mixed reviews?

 

[Tripod]

Ginning starting to get votes

He's behind all of the D prospects we still have left on the board, especially Attard who I think is getting slept on a bit in this poll.

If Ginning was in the USHL this coming year...wonder what numbers he would put up? Attard being a year older than Ginning playing against kids vs playing against men.

Hope they all excel and have great years.

 

[FLYguy3911]

If Ginning was in the USHL this coming year...wonder what numbers he would put up? Attard being a year older than Ginning playing against kids vs playing against men.

Hope they all excel and have great years.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ginning wouldn't put together quite possibly the best statistical season that league has seen from a defenseman. Just a hunch. Splitting hairs, but the age spread is less than 10 months. Attard being RH is a significant advantage as well. There are elements to Attard's season that were fluky for sure (can't count on a dman shooting 20% moving forward), but cut that in half and it was still an incredible season. He's by no means a slam dunk and he has to improve in certain areas, but he's got tools to work with.

We've seen Ginning play against his age group, while being the oldest of the group. That's not what is holding him back. I think he's the worst defensive prospect the Flyers hold the rights to. I know some will scoff at that, but it's both a testament to how well the Flyers have drafted (and signed) defensemen as well as Ginning's lackluster skillset.

 

[DancingPanther]

So you've left?

HB? Yes

Oh wait...I see what you did there

 

[DancingPanther]

Such a cliche, but this is one of my favorite. Listening to it now!

Least someone got it.

Proud of you

 

[deadhead]

Least someone got it.

Proud of you

I got it of course, but that's to be expected.

 

[DancingPanther]

I got it of course, but that's to be expected.

I knowwww you deadhead, gonna get my song lyrics

 

[Tripod]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ginning wouldn't put together quite possibly the best statistical season that league has seen from a defenseman. Just a hunch. Splitting hairs, but the age spread is less than 10 months. Attard being RH is a significant advantage as well. There are elements to Attard's season that were fluky for sure (can't count on a dman shooting 20% moving forward), but cut that in half and it was still an incredible season. He's by no means a slam dunk and he has to improve in certain areas, but he's got tools to work with.

We've seen Ginning play against his age group, while being the oldest of the group. That's not what is holding him back. I think he's the worst defensive prospect the Flyers hold the rights to. I know some will scoff at that, but it's both a testament to how well the Flyers have drafted (and signed) defenseman as well as Ginning's lackluster skillset.

And honestly, I trust your judgement.

Attard certainly looks intriguing coming off the season he had, his late transition to D, and being RH while 6'3 206. Stizzle mentioned these 3, but Attard, Serdyuk and Millman are so intriguing going into this year and could take big jumps. More excited for them than the rest on the board.

I am not voting, fwiw.

 

[Foggy14]

Almost went NAK, but voted Kaše.

Son of a coach, and brother of a really good player (when healthy), the kid has shown a lot of skill and a top-class attitude the past two seasons in two very good pro leagues (SHL and AHL).

If David can stay healthy, he'll bring a talent level that will be impressive for a 16th ranked prospect.

 

[Rebels57]

If Ginning was in the USHL this coming year...wonder what numbers he would put up? Attard being a year older than Ginning playing against kids vs playing against men.

Hope they all excel and have great years.

He would still suck because he's not good at hockey.

 

[Rebels57]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ginning wouldn't put together quite possibly the best statistical season that league has seen from a defenseman. Just a hunch. Splitting hairs, but the age spread is less than 10 months. Attard being RH is a significant advantage as well. There are elements to Attard's season that were fluky for sure (can't count on a dman shooting 20% moving forward), but cut that in half and it was still an incredible season. He's by no means a slam dunk and he has to improve in certain areas, but he's got tools to work with.

We've seen Ginning play against his age group, while being the oldest of the group. That's not what is holding him back. I think he's the worst defensive prospect the Flyers hold the rights to. I know some will scoff at that, but it's both a testament to how well the Flyers have drafted (and signed) defensemen as well as Ginning's lackluster skillset.

Same. Only one that he's even close to is Bernhardt, who also has better puck skills. Just an absolutely horrendous use of a 2nd rounder.

 

[Striiker]

If Ginning is voted into the top 30 I'll be disappointed with this board.

We should also make a blacklist of all people who have voted for him, so we know who to shun.

 

[deadhead]

The Group Think blacklist?