Prospect Info: 2017 Ranking #21 (HM)

[tigervixxxen]

2017 PROSPECT RANKING
[table="head;width=800]RANK|PREV|CHNG|NAME|POS|TEAM|DRAFT|VOTES

1|New|N/A|Cale Makar|D|Brooks (AJHL)|#4 overall 2017|133 votes, 54.14%|

2|3|+1|Tyson Jost|C|University of North Dakota (NCHC)|#10 overall 2016|111 votes, 96.40%|

3|4|+1| JT Compher|C|San Antonio (AHL)|#35 overall 2013T|107 votes, 60.75%

4|5|+1| Nicolas Meloche|D|Charlottetown (QMJHL)|#40 overall 2015|117 votes, 37.61%|

5|2|-3| Chris Bigras|D|San Antonio (AHL)|#32 overall 2013|111 votes, 53.15%|

6|6|0| AJ Greer|LW|San Antonio (AHL)|#39 overall 2015|115 votes, 53.04%|

7|New|N/A| Conor Timmins | D| Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)|#32 overall 2017| 89 votes 73.03%|

8|11|+3| Andrei Mironov|D|Dynamo Moskva (KHL)|#101 overall 2015|94 votes, 41.49%|

9|7|-2| JC Beaudin|C|Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)|#71 overall 2015|87 votes, 51.72% |

10|New|N/A| Igor Shvyryov| C| Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk (MHL)|#125 overall 2017| 89, votes 28.09%|

11|8|-3| Cam Morrison|C|University of Notre Dame (Big10)|#40 overall 2016|79 votes, 43.04%|

12|9|-3| Spencer Martin|G|San Antonio (AHL)|#63 overall 2013|70 votes, 57.14%|

13|18|+5| Anton Lindholm|D|San Antonio (AHL)|#144 overall 2014|71 votes, 57.75%|

14|New|N/A| Nick Henry | RW| Regina (WHL)|#94 overall 2017| 67 votes 68.66%|

15|New|N/A| Dominic Toninato| C| Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth (NCHC)|#126 overall 2012FA| 47 votes 34.04%|

16|New|N/A| Denis Smirnov| RW| Penn State University (Big 10)|#156 overall 2017| 55 votes 32.73%|

17|19|+2| Nate Clurman|D|Culver Academy (USHS)|#161 overall 2016|51 votes, 27.45%|

18|12|-6| Sergei Boikov|D|San Antonio (AHL) |#161 overall 2015|61 votes, 36.07%|

19|15|-4| Duncan Siemens|D|San Antonio (AHL)|#11 overall 2011|51 votes, 45.10%|

20|10|-10| Julien Nantel|C/LW|San Antonio (AHL)|#204 overall 2014|44 votes, 61.36%|



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[McMetal]

Anderson, then Kvaca.

 

[landy92mack29]

Barron then Geertsen

 

[cgf]

Anderson should've gotten Siemens spot so we could pick Lievermann as our HM here, cause that kid could rise a lot in next year's vote once we see him at the next level.

 

[Pokecheque]

I voted Barron, but who knows, maybe it's finally Josh's time.

No idea where to rank any of the goalies.

Stupid question time...what is HM?

 

[CobraAcesS]

I voted Barron, but who knows, maybe it's finally Josh's time.

No idea where to rank any of the goalies.

Stupid question time...what is HM?

Honorable mention

Edit : or Hard mode lol, but I think it's the first one

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Looks like Anderson is going to take this poll so I'll be taking Leivermann next followed by Kvaca.

 

[Tweaky]

Kvaca, Werner, Anderson, Leivermann in that order

 

[tigervixxxen]

Anderson should've gotten Siemens spot so we could pick Lievermann as our HM here, cause that kid could rise a lot in next year's vote once we see him at the next level.

The next level being the BCHL? Probably won't get much hype unless he wins MVP or something.

I can see the argument for Anderson but I'm thinking Barron. Maybe he's just a AHL type but he probably gets signed. I like the kid.

 

[McMetal]

Barron didn't really take much of a step forward in gameplay this year. Seems like a good character guy but I'm not sure that's going to be enough to let him carve out more than a bottom 6 AHL role.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Barron didn't really take much of a step forward in gameplay this year. Seems like a good character guy but I'm not sure that's going to be enough to let him carve out more than a bottom 6 AHL role.

He did, it just wasn't points. He was the emotional and physical driving force of the team.

From the Black Book on his season

Travis has the body and skillset to be a power forward at the next level. His game is very effective when he is working down low on the cycle with the puck and driving hard to the net with it, using his size and reach and creating offensive chances. Travis won’t be a point-producer at the next level, but with added consistency each game, he could be an effective role player at the next level. His game was better this year for Ottawa compared to last. He competed better this year, and improved his game in other areas either with or away from the puck. Travis showed good leadership this year and led by example, bringing a young Ottawa team into the playoffs. Still a ways to go but it was an uptick year for the 7th rounder.

We are in the likely career AHL tier here anyway

 

[cgf]

The next level being the BCHL? Probably won't get much hype unless he wins MVP or something.

I can see the argument for Anderson but I'm thinking Barron. Maybe he's just a AHL type but he probably gets signed. I like the kid.

Not saying he'll get the kind of hype Makar will get if he contends for the Hobey Baker as a freshman or anything; but more of us should get a chance to watch him this coming season. And from the sounds of things he could leave a good impression on those of us that do catch him...at least enough to move ahead of the career AHLers and some of the third-pairing-at-best prospects.

 

[S E P H]

Barron didn't really take much of a step forward in gameplay this year. Seems like a good character guy but I'm not sure that's going to be enough to let him carve out more than a bottom 6 AHL role.

I get it that you expect him to be more of an AHLer instead of the NHL which is fine. However, I suggest we drafted him for his ability to grind out on the bottom line(s) similar to McLeod. Barron doesn't possess a lot of potential or talent, but the kid is a good skater, oozes character, has a good two-way ability, anticipates the play well, and is a titanium bulldog on the forecheck. Considering those strengths, I don't think it's unreasonable to have the expectations of him making the NHL, even if all he becomes is just a #12th forward. I do agree that he needs to step up some of his offencive game, or we have another Garrett Meurs on our hands.

 

[UncleRisto]

What has Kvaca done to be considered a better prospect than Werner?

 

[McMetal]

What has Kvaca done to be considered a better prospect than Werner?

Werner didn't have a great season, sub .900 save %. I'll admit I didn't lay eyes on him, and I'm not even a very good goalie scout regardless, but I like Kvaca's attitude and post-draft comments about working hard. This is long-shot territory here so I'm just going purely on gut.

 

[Pokecheque]

Not that this makes a huge difference, though it means something early on, but Kvaca was drafted higher than Werner...

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

What has Kvaca done to be considered a better prospect than Werner?

Kvaca had the better year and reviews out of rookie camp favoured Kvaca over Werner as well.

 

[UncleRisto]

Kvaca had the better year and reviews out of rookie camp favoured Kvaca over Werner as well.

I see. I'd question the quality of competition there but if the rookie camp went that way too then that's something.

 

[henchman21]

Werner had a great start to the season where he stole the starting job, then fell back to earth. Could have been natural growing pains at the position (and the product of a bad team). In reality, I doubt either end up being anything to write home about.

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Werner had a great start to the season where he stole the starting job, then fell back to earth. Could have been natural growing pains at the position (and the product of a bad team). In reality, I doubt either end up being anything to write home about.

Yup which is why they are in the HM category. Would it kill management to grab a goalie in the draft that is highly touted for good reasons once every 3 years? Grab your obscure Euro goalies where you want all the other years but lets try avoiding shooting ourselves in the foot here.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Same story as before, special poll I'll put up shortly.

Every time I slack on putting up the next poll there's a signing. So perhaps next time it will be the Duchene trade.

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

Same story as before, special poll I'll put up shortly.

Every time I slack on putting up the next poll there's a signing. So perhaps next time it will be the Duchene trade.

And a new prospect!

 

[UncleRisto]

Same story as before, special poll I'll put up shortly.

Every time I slack on putting up the next poll there's a signing. So perhaps next time it will be the Duchene trade.

Does Dubois rank in the top-2 or not?

 

[tigervixxxen]

What range are we thinking, folks? I'll get on it now.

 

[Tweaky]

9-13 imo