acrobaticgoalie
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Voted Woll. Don't know how alot of posters here have him so low on their lists. He has some serious starter potenetial and his development path has been going great so far.
Prospect Info: 2017 Leafs Board Prospect Ranking #5
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bobermay
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Outside of a good Memorial Cup (4 game sample size), what has he done lately that is impressive?
Of the CHL guys left on the board:
Rychel had a FAR BETTER U20 season...
Brooks had a FAR BETTER U20 season...
Timashov had a very comparable U20 season...
Nielsen had a similar quality U20 season given his position...
What has Bracco done that sepperates him from any of these guys??
TLeafsFan
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In junior, sure, but he has still never matched Rychel's OHL point production either.
TLeafsFan
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Not really. Bracco was picked at #61, Korshkov at #31. That's an entire round (30 spots) between them.
Context please. Rychel was on stacked OHL teams. Bracco was on Kitcher and Windsor(a very defensive oriented team).
bobermay
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A lot of Russian hockey experts on here. Glad so many here have seen Korshkov play
So what...? I would be surprised if 10% of the posters here have watched significant minutes of 10 of these prospects...
I agree but one that many of us got to watch a ton was Bracco. That's my point. Peeps are voting for a player they know nothing about and who had a serious leg fracture to boot. No-one here really knows the player before and after that injury.
I know nothing at all about Korshkov - nothing. I am not alone.
A lot of Russian hockey experts on here. Glad so many here have seen Korshkov play
Seen him at the WJU20 and a few streamed games last year. I think he played in the KHL when he was 18, he also plays on Russias back up national team, He is in our top 5.
TLeafsFan
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Okay so didn't Rychel also have some NHL experience under his belt by Bracco's age, too.
How's that for added context?
He was good enough then, out of training camp, to be kept up for a time, on an NHL team.
I can't even see that happening for Bracco this season.
Rychel is a better talent in my eyes.
IMO he's also better than shiny new toy Korshkov but I know all about the affinity toward shiny new toys here, so it is what it is.
bobermay
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I don't understand, whats your point...?
You're more familiar with some prospects than others? Its safe to say everyone feels the same way... It shouldn't matter.
Case in point... How many games did you see Liljegren play? How many games did you see Bracco play? Does that make Bracco a better prospect in your eyes?
Kazparov
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add me to this list. People seems very high on him. All I've seen is a feW WJC highlights
stickty111
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Bracco
Unlike Korshkov who might be always injured, Bracco has improved his overall game to the point that he can be a top 5 prospect for the team.
Rychel only does well when carried by good players.
Bracco has done a lot more than basically the rest of the guys here.
Lets hope Bracco continues to show further improvement.
What have the rest of the guys done aside from being lower than Bracco always?
Unlike Korshkov who might be always injured, Bracco has improved his overall game to the point that he can be a top 5 prospect for the team.
Rychel only does well when carried by good players.
Bracco has done a lot more than basically the rest of the guys here.
Lets hope Bracco continues to show further improvement.
What have the rest of the guys done aside from being lower than Bracco always?
bobermay
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Please explain to me how Bracco's U20 season:
57GP, 25G, 83P + Playoffs: 7GP, 2G, 5P
Trumps
Brooks' U20 season:
72GP, 38G 120P + Playoffs: 12GP, 7G, 23P
Nielsen's U20 season: (Keep in mind, as a D-man)
71GP, 18G, 70P + Playoffs: 5GP, 1G, 3P
Andreas Borgman's SHL Rookie of the year season...
Woll's dominance in NCAA as a freshman...
Plus NHL ready guys like Rychel, Johnsson, Gauthier, Rosen
Plus Raw kids with huge upside: Greenway, Rasanen
PLUS similar calliber folks like Timashov, Aaltonen, Joshua
I just don't see what Bracco has done since being drafted that truly seperates him from anyone else.
I can vote for Bracco because I know what I'm voting for. I didn't vote for Lilijgren for the same reason - I don't know his game at all - it's all hearsay for me. How can you vote for a prospect(Korshkov) to be #5 when you don't know that player? How? That's my point. Should be a straight forward thing to understand.
Don't vote if you don't know.
My list looks like this:
Kappy
Dermott
Bracco
Johnson
Timashov
etc.
because I have seen them play live or on televised games.
bobermay
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Thats your opinion, and thats fine...
Personally, I don't think its right to omit a player because you haven't seen them a lot. You look at stats, scouting reports, YT videos and formulate opinions on guys...
When I vote, Its based off of who I predict will be more successfull at the NHL level.... not based off of the talent I've seen 'live'...
Brooks - agreed
Woll - agreed
Nielsen - do not agree - unless something changes he will not become an NHL player
Borgman - absolutely no idea - no-one does. I am stoked to see these guys though...
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Fair 'nuff. I accept that. I would like to see the tile of the threads changed to "Predictions For Prospects Ranking"
Same thing every year though. Famously, Matt Finn was close to our best prospect not too long ago.
Pssst, nobody in this fan base is really qualified to make an accurate list ... go with the flow
Pssst, nobody in this fan base is really qualified to make an accurate list ... go with the flow
Thanks man. That was my Snickers break. Needed that.
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