2016 NHL Draft | Part 3

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September
Craig Button: http://www.tsn.ca/auston-matthews-is-just-that-good-1.358947
Bob McKenzie: http://www.tsn.ca/elite-prospect-matthews-tops-mckenzie-s-ranking-1.364099
NHL CSS: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=780838

October
ISS Hockey: http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-top-30-for-october/
Craig Button: http://www.tsn.ca/matthews-still-golden-en-route-to-nhl-draft-1.377863
Future Considerations: http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-releases-october-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/
Hockey Prospect: http://www.hockeyprospect.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-hockeyprospect-com-october-top-50/

November
ISS Hockey: http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-top-30-for-november/
Craig Button: http://www.tsn.ca/forwards-dominate-top-of-2016-nhl-prospect-race-1.391662
The Hockey Writers: http://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-war-room-fall-edition/
Hockey Prospect: http://www.hockeyprospect.com/2016-nhl-draft-rankings-hockeyprospect-com-november-top-50/

December
ISS Hockey: http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-iss-top-30-for-december/
McKeens: http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-2016-top-30-nhl-draft-rankings-dec-2015/
Future Considerations: http://futureconsiderations.ca/fcs-december-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/

January
ISS Hockey: http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-iss-top-30-for-january/
Craig Button: http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-can-t-go-wrong-with-puljujarvi-laine-1.421415
McKeen's: http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-2016-top-30-nhl-draft-rankings-jan-2016/
Future Considerations: http://futureconsiderations.ca/fc-releases-january-ranking-for-2016-nhl-draft/
NHL CSS: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=797902
Draft Analysis: http://www.thedraftanalyst.com/prospects/january-2016-rankings/
Hockey Prospect: http://www.hockeyprospect.com/2016-nhl-draft-hockeyprospect-com-january-top-60/
The Hockey Writers: http://thehockeywriters.com/thws-nhl-draft-war-room-rankings-january-edition/

February
Bob McKenzie: http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-mid-season-draft-rankings-topped-by-big-three-1.435206
ISS Hockey: http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-iss-top-30-for-february/

 

[Canadian Canuck]

My top 10

1) Matthews
2) Laine
3) Puljujärvi
4) Tkachuk
5) Chychrun
6) Nylander
7) Dubois
8) Sergachev
9) Juolevi
10) Gauthier/Keller

 

[groov2]

Good to see people are coming around to Pierre-Luc Dubois.

 

[Josepho]

Current top 15. Keller and Dubois have risen.

Worth noting that Chychrun has a very good chance of sliding for me.

 

[groov2]

Also....we were incredibly impressed with McLeod tonight (as we expected to be). We thought he was the best player on the ice tonight. Very, very impressed with him.

 

[canwincup]

Also....we were incredibly impressed with McLeod tonight (as we expected to be). We thought he was the best player on the ice tonight. Very, very impressed with him.

I thought Dubois was the best, but McLeod was the most noticeable because of his speed. If Mcleod's hands get a little better, I think he has number 1 centre potential.

 

[DanCloutiers5hole]

Good to see people are coming around to Pierre-Luc Dubois.

Didn't know much about him so watched some highlight videos of him last night, kids a complete player/ total package. The thing that impressed me the most about the vids was how his coaching staff was complimenting him on how much hard work he puts in (training, video breakdowns, staff meetings). Tonight's game only confirmed that more. As much as we need a top end D prospect , i would definitely be ok with Dubois with our first.

 

[Zombotron]

Good to see people are coming around to Pierre-Luc Dubois.

Lots of love for Baby Fedorovâ„¢

 

[racerjoe]

Was at the game thought lots of guys had moments. Obviously Dubois stood out, as did McLeod, I thought Nylander was dangerous, when he has the puck you always seem to think something might happen. Abramov was noticeable flashy.

On Deffense I really noticed Bean, he just seemed to be the guy you would always go who was that? Oh Bean. Thought Sergachev was very good overall too. Joulevi came on as the game went on, he seemed to get better. Liked Girard on the PP, he moved the puck well back there.

Wasn't impressed by either captain, both had moments, but I expected more.

From this game after the top five, I would go Mcleod, Nylander, Dubois, then Sergachev, Joulevi, and Bean.

This was my first real look at most of these guys this year, I have watched very little hockey this year.

 

[sting101]

Was at PC for the game tonight.
I'll start with the top rated guys

Chychrun - was a disaster. Feet weren't moving except for a few forays. Bad reads, Clumsy stick, errant passes. He's obviously a supreme physical specimen and easy NHLer but after watching this game I don't think he's a number 1. More of a Phaneuf type.

Tkachuk - wasn't moving his feet a tonne. You can see the package. An absolute beast to handle down low and around the net. Solid but unspectacular game.

McLeod - was absolutely flying. Has 3 stride to fast transition speed. Wonderfully gifted skater has nice hands size and is a dog on the puck all over the ice. Was my 2nd favourite in this game....want this player or....

Dubois - Just Wow. Didn't stand out early but then in the 2nd period he absolutely took off. Seems to have a complete arsenal. Can play east west as easily as north south. Protects the puck, high end dangles has tremendous size/range and also has excellent awareness, vision, skating and to put the cherry on top came over to center and won 3 straight crucial draws to secure the victory against Logan Brown....dominate performance....I want this guy too.

Gauthier - More of a North South type but his size skating shot hands are all top 6 NHL quality. Not an overly creative player but does have good awareness. A finisher with a nose for the scoring areas. As long as your not looking for playmaking he's an extremely impressive player. Solid outing.

Joelevi - complete package. Good first pass and vision. Makes solid reads, good gap control is extremely smart. Active stick and excellent positional. Not really a big risk taker. Reminds me a bit of Hampus Lindholm. Don't see a big point producer. Needs to work on his top end speed....Don't think it will be an issue.

Nylander - non factor. Had a couple moments were he could show off some quickness and slick hands. Mostly just got shoved around and wasn't really too engaged. Hard to read after looking good at the World Juniors. Thought he looked skinny, weak and like a one dimensional offensive player. Poor game...not a fan.

Sergachyev - really liked his game. Had a few miscues here and there. Not gonna be a big point producer but is an effortless skater and solidly built. Has a good first pass, vision and reads the game. Nice shut down potential.

Jones - a pain in the arse to play against. Really good wheels. Loves the physical game and going to the hard areas. A bit clunky and a North South mindset. Has a definite presence an excellent tool box.....gonna have to refine his game to be a top 6 IMO. Looks very much like a future NHLer.

Brown - has some soft hands, real nice snipe top corner. Rangy guy with good wheels. Thought he showed well. He's gonna have to get more explosive, quicker and stronger. OK vision and good awareness but needs refinement. Is definitely an impressive physical specimen with lots of range.

Bean - silky smooth on the transition. Nice footwork and excellent passer, very good vision. Got a lot of muscle to add and would be nice to see a quicker stick and harder more aggressive shot for a smaller guy. He's got a lot of upside but also has bust potential if he doesn't make strides in terms of strength. Looked very good tonight.

To be continued.....

 

[sting101]

Other's that made an impression....

Ty Ronning - really happy for him. Played excellent and showed that he belongs in the top 100. Hope the Canucks draft him....he has that it factor that Gallagher has. His base is wide and edgework is excellent. Needs to get a lot stronger as he was easily knocked to the ice when engaged physically. Like him

Jordan Kyrou - really caught my eye. Has a lot of translatable skills, nice hands and wheels...like this player.

Kale Clague - undersized d man with a lot of zip. Has had an underwhelming year but has some really quick hands and feet and makes nice reads and outlets. I like his game just not sure if he can become a point producer.

Sean Day - as hard and fast as he's fallen he still looks like a nice prospect and I thought he was solid.

Pascal Laberge - 3 pt game. Heady player, shifty, nice release, liked his vision and change of pace.

No one else stood out positively for me except maybe Logan Stanley......huge guy with good wheels. Chara factor will see someone take a stab at him way higher than his skill set.

My top 15

1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. McLeod
4. Puljajarvi
5. Tkachuk
6. Dubois
7. Chychrun
8 Juolevi
9. Gauthier
10. Bellows
11. Nylander
12. Keller
13 Jones
14 Jost
15 Segaychev

 

[The Drop]

Outside of his speed and skating I thought McLeod didn't do much at all in terms of showing off his hands.

Although this game is just a one off and I felt it was a bad game all around

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Chychrun was very human tonight. From all the hype he's got, and I don't think he had a bad game but for the expectations I had of him coming into tonight...not great. He's steady positionally, he's a good skater, but his neutral zone MO seems to be lugging the puck into the zone himself which would work if he had better puck skills. He has tools to be a great top 4 guy...who knows.

Juolevi in contrast was much better. A more economically game for him as well, doesn't use size to hold his opponents back...his skating and stick work is good for this. His transition game is head and shoulders better than Chychrun's. Pretty much the same in the offensive zone, expect for perhaps that Juolevi has head up a bit more than Chychrun - or so it seems.

McLeod impressed me. I didn't notice his skating like sting did, but his vision was fantastic. He was patient with the puck and had his head up looking at plays develop in a way most his age don't. Real veteran game out of him, honestly. I really love his hockey IQ. Should be a top 10 pick this year easily.

Nylander was invisible. I remember seeing him in the 3rd period and having a moment of sudden clarity that he was part of this game.

Jones. Agreed with sting. Gonna be an NHLer most likely, just not a go-to offensive threat. If he gets more patient with the puck behind the net and gets his head up to the point/slot areas he'll be good.

Laberge was a guy who really impressed me personally. His hockey IQ and the way he sees the ice might be as good as McLeod, and he has the confidence and ability to make moves around players with time. His skating could possibly use a bit more explosiveness. For me, this is a must pick IF he falls anywhere past 25.

Ronning played well, like I've said before if he added some size, he'd be right with the other guys. I could see him being a Gallagher guy if he has the same drive.

Bean was better defensively than I've heard and worse offensively than I've heard. I thought he faded away as the game went on and he had a pretty horrible giveaway in the 2nd period. Bad night to be a defenseman, though IMO.

Dubois had excellent chemistry with Laberge. They might have been using some Sedin chemistry! But anyways, him and Laberge IMO were the two best forwards for team Orr. Great smarts and vision from this guy. He's a top 10 pick as well easily.

Abramov was pretty much your Kovalev of the game. Any chance he did get (which were few) you kinda were in awe for bit...he's got such a hard wrist shot for a little guy and good puck skills. His skating didn't wow me as much as when he handled the puck...BUT...guy's got his head down too much. He does not see play very well. I wouldn't mind using a 2nd rounder on him, I just wouldn't LOVE it either. But he's probably going to go before when I'd take him.

That's pretty much all the players that stood out to me that I can remember.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Bean - silky smooth on the transition. Nice footwork and excellent passer, very good vision. Got a lot of muscle to add and would be nice to see a quicker stick and harder more aggressive shot for a smaller guy. He's got a lot of upside but also has bust potential if he doesn't make strides in terms of strength. Looked very good tonight.

Bean has so many things to work on, but his creativity from the back end is second to none in this draft. It forces me to keep considering him as the next best defensive option behind Chychrun, even though Sergachev and Juolevi are more 'complete'. It's rare to find that ability in a Dman.

 

[groov2]

Outside of his speed and skating I thought McLeod didn't do much at all in terms of showing off his hands.

Although this game is just a one off and I felt it was a bad game all around

I'm surprised by that. I thought he made something happen practically every shift. My whole group did.

 

[The Drop]

I'm surprised by that. I thought he made something happen practically every shift. My whole group did.

Ya perhaps it didn't translate well on TV and you had to be there

 

[Bleach Clean]

Outside of his speed and skating I thought McLeod didn't do much at all in terms of showing off his hands.

McLeod impressed me. I didn't notice his skating like sting did, but his vision was fantastic. He was patient with the puck and had his head up looking at plays develop in a way most his age don't. Real veteran game out of him, honestly. I really love his hockey IQ. Should be a top 10 pick this year easily.

Interesting dichotomy of opinion. Patient with the puck or didn't show off his hands?

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Dubois would be my pick in the 6-10 range.

 

[groov2]

Ya perhaps it didn't translate well on TV and you had to be there

Hah...we were in my living room. Guess a difference of opinion

 

[CanaFan]

Interesting dichotomy of opinion. Patient with the puck or didn't show off his hands?

Showed slick hands on one play midway through the 3rd. Took a drop pass and made a shifty puck move to get a good shot off. Bit fuzzy on the details but remember being very impressed.

I think impressions of McLeod tend to focus on his skating and power because it's just so visually dominant in his game but he moved the puck very well, lots of good little pass plays and didn't hesitate to move the puck which showed me he sees the ice quite well. Played his entire game at a very high tempo, not just his skating. Was very impressed with him as well as Dubois. Couldn't help but notice them on pretty much every shift.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Interesting dichotomy of opinion. Patient with the puck or didn't show off his hands?

I don't think they necessarily need to mean the same thing. Particularly because I don't remember him making any flashy moves...his game to me is far from flashy but it's smart. He sees the ice well and waits for play to develop to set someone up. His vision is the best part of his game, or at the least the most noticeable for me. And he doesn't seem to mind having the puck too long say unlike Jones who seemed pretty eager to get it off his stick as soon as he had the chance when he was in the attacking end.

I think impressions of McLeod tend to focus on his skating and power because it's just so visually dominant in his game but he moved the puck very well, lots of good little pass plays and didn't hesitate to move the puck which showed me he sees the ice quite well. Played his entire game at a very high tempo, not just his skating. Was very impressed with him as well as Dubois. Couldn't help but notice them on pretty much every shift.

Agreed with this. McLeod's smarts for me trump his skating though.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Showed slick hands on one play midway through the 3rd. Took a drop pass and made a shifty puck move to get a good shot off. Bit fuzzy on the details but remember being very impressed.

I think impressions of McLeod tend to focus on his skating and power because it's just so visually dominant in his game but he moved the puck very well, lots of good little pass plays and didn't hesitate to move the puck which showed me he sees the ice quite well. Played his entire game at a very high tempo, not just his skating. Was very impressed with him as well as Dubois. Couldn't help but notice them on pretty much every shift.

Thanks for the description. I only saw the game in brief moments, so this helps.

Yup, McLeod and Dubois... Need to get one of them. Very curious to see where the Canucks finish. Too far away from pick #8 and they won't have the chance IMO.

 

[CanaFan]

Curious whether people view this draft as still having a fairly set 'top 5' or whether it seems to becoming more of a 'top 3' and then a 'top 10'? Granted it is foolish to put too much stock in the prospects game, but watching a lot of these kids on the same ice caused me to question whether Chychrun and Tkachuk are really a clear tier above guys like Dubois, Juolevi, McLeod, Nylander, and Sergachyev. Maybe they are based on their larger body of work, but based on tonight's game I'd have a hard time saying definitively that Tkachuk is a clearly better prospect than Dubois or McLeod. And Chychrun was far from the best dman out there and his entire season seems to have been a slow fall from his high ranking earlier in the year.

Seems to be looking more like this:

Matthews
Laine
Puljujarvi
------------------
Chychrun
Tkachuk
Dubois
Juolevi
Sergachyev
Nylander
McLeod

Does anyone else think it is looking more like this or would you still say Chychrun and/or Tkachuk are a clear tier above the others?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Nope, I see it the same way CF. Though it was just one game.

I'm honestly 1000% more interested in Laberge though. That guy looked GREAT tonight. I really hope we can snag him with a 2nd or a late 1st.