2016 LMHF Report - Game #5

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EDMONTON 4

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MONTREAL 3
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Now THAT was a hockey game.

This represented the opposite of last game in many ways but especially the caring bit. These nights feel so good when you're into it. For some reason there was always a glimmer - and for once they scored right before the end of the second when they needed to and then hammered down on the accelerator the rest of the way. No nerves, maybe one bad shift the rest of the game, just GO.

I said after the first tonight that was probably the worst period they've played this season. If not it was really close to that. They had nothing out there after the first five minutes and MTL was taking the opportunity to simply run them out of the rink. It was ugly and it lay squarely with the 7 defencemen in the lineup tonight. They were horrid in the first. I'll try to focus on the last two periods when analyzing them because I don't want much negativity on a night like tonight.

The Oilers did what good teams have been doing to them for years now - looked up at the clock and said "We're down 3, but there's 40 left. Get the next one." They repeated that exercise until the game was theirs. Man that was something.

It was all the more sweet to be surrounded by the usual throng of Habs fans at Rexall while this all went down. After the first they were fat and happy - much like their team. The Habs then tried to play lock down hockey and coast on to Calgary with two points. Probably would have worked in the past. Not against McDavid. As he establishes a pattern and repeats performances like tonight the league and we as fans will learn. He just doesn't go away. You can see it in his game already - the sheer force of will that all great athletes have. Tonight he moved into fourth place in NHL scoring as an 18-year-old who started cold. He has his new best friend are on 7-game point streaks. Already. Think about that.

Unlike LA, MTL couldn't restart their engine with the McDavid train headed down the tracks. They got run over. They had barely any shots in the second half of the game and were shut down on the couple of chances they got.

The Oilers scored four unanswered against a formidable group of defenders that are backstopped by the very best goalie in the world. That's something to put on the board for the rest of the year and remember and learn from. Make no mistake - without Carey Price the Oilers could have ran up 7 or 8 goals tonight without much changing. A couple of players could have had multiple goal nights in addition to the one that actually did. It was something to see - the transition from being stuck in the mud to suddenly flying into the attacking zone with the puck or bashing into the MTL defenders and taking it away. The forwards and a couple of young dmen grabbed this game by the neck and hauled it over to their side. Frankly, the way that was done was impressive as hell. There were some truly sublime sequences. Let's talk about a couple:

Pouliot's goal was magic. It started with Nail Yakupov, improperly maligned as a "crummy board player", beating two MTL forecheckers for a loose puck and getting it to the best 18 year old hockey player I've ever seen. McDavid then reached back to grab the puck before PK Subban of all people could grab it, then flicked it around another Hab to the absolute perfect spot on the ice. Pouliot already knows his job on this line - get to the middle, be ready. He was flying into that perfect pass and made no mistake in beating Price. That play was board battle perfection.

The winner was also a beauty but in a more subtle way. Hall makes a great dump-in with Hopkins already on his horse. Hopkins gets perfect position on Desharnais and wins the puck battle. The Oilers won a ton of battles all of a sudden starting in the second, this just happened to be the one that finished the job. He then came around the net with the puck. Hall cut across with a perfect block out of the defender who could have blocked the pass. Now, Leon hadn't been on the ice at the last faceoff. Letestu had been out to take the faceoff and Draisaitl had to jump on and into the play - strong players know that this timing and angle difference can be used to their advantage. Leon went to the perfect spot and for probably the first time this evening, held the puck rather than trying to immediately whack it somewhere - he was rewarded. A perfect shot to beat price and make the fans go crazy. Great goal.

And that was that. They hung on and beat the best team in the league with the best goalie in the world after spotting them 3. Holy ****.
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Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
- Detailed their goal up above. McDavid was unstoppable in this game. When he's 23 he'll draw 2 or more holding penalties a night from dmen trying to stop his rushes with no hope. He blew by every MTL defender. He nailed a guy near the Oilers bench. He was mean sometimes, great all the time and made the type of play I suspect we'll come to know him for to set up the winner. It's just a treat watching this guy play and we're barely into his first season. Wow. Yakupov played a really solid game as well, winning several board battles, getting quality shots only to be robbed by Price, and forechecking at a high pace all night. He's seeing passing lanes really well and making his linemates better. Pouliot did exactly what he needs to do, with the added bonus of getting MTL a little riled up. Just a great game from this line.

Hall-Hopkins-Draisaitl
- Well, these boys carried the mail even if it wasn't perfect. The EV icetime for this group was off the charts. I often saw Hall and wondered if there was something wrong but now I'm betting he was just bagged. He really wants things to get going offensively and I think he's actually overskating the puck more than anything. If he gears down a bit and lets the play come to him he should be fine. Great efforts on a number of shifts but some frustrating ones as well. Part of it is just that I expect a lot from him. Hopkins too had some challenges but delivered in terms of icetime and the knockout punch. I may be underestimating the job he's doing against better players this year as well. What can you really say about Leon? Talent shines through I guess. He was horrible and nervous early. He was set up for a number of chances and either made bad passes away or simply whacked at the puck. This is not his game. The PP goal was so huge for him. People will call that a lucky play - but you can see him check and see Price is exposed and a bank shot is there. Credit to Emelin for nearly saving it but that was a great choice. Delivering the dagger in the third after such a long and crazy day had to be something else. Wow.

Slepyshev-Purcell-Pakarinen
- I'm not actually sure who played the middle for this group, but they made a contribution to tonight's game that will likely be forgotten and missed by most. In the third they provided strong, reliable minutes after McLellan shortened his bench. These guys really stepped up and moved the puck in the right direction - especially Slepyshev and Pakarinen. These are the types of guys you want as your depth players because they are talented enough to contribute, but work really hard during their limited ice time and can push just hard enough to beat good teams. They were mostly mediocre the rest of the night with Purcell being very disappointing on the powerplay, but that effort in the third should not be overlooked. I know I noticed.

Lander-Letestu
- Anton Lander got benched in this one and as he should have been. His defensive blunder leading to a goal was the second in two games on plays he has to be better with. Anton's not performing to his potential right now. Letestu got caught in the bench shortening, but did his job in terms of winning faceoffs and working hard. No complaints.

A word in general about the forwards - they carried the mail and did EVERYTHING tonight. They came back and got the puck, they checked MTL in all zones, they played great in the neutral zone and generated a bunch of chances in the 2nd and 3rd. Truly this victory was theirs.

Ference-Gryba-Fayne
- Sucked. They got blown by like a broken down old car on the side of the road as a Ferrari comes ripping past. Ference did his usual routine of too many turnovers instead of passes, too many weak shots and too many pinches. He managed to make about 4 passes in the third which was an accomplishment, but he took so much time it is a wonder MTL didn't get him. Gryba and Fayne were just stuck in the mud more than anything. They couldn't move to keep up when the game was pushed by either MTL or EDM for that matter. I suspect Gryba will bounce back but I think Fayne might be headed out of town.

Davidson
- Struggled in the first and definitely has challenges defensively. How much of this is because of his partners I don't know. He needs to stabilize his game a little bit and be stronger positionally. Once he started skating with the puck things changed. Then he fired a shot and that built some momentum. Then he got a perfect feed on a flowing play from Nurse and saw a perfect Yakupov screen. Hammered the puck into the net. Great shot. You could see he was feeling it after that. Got another good shot away and was strong the rest of the game. Very nice.

Sekera
- Kind of all over the place. He too started skating the puck out and this helped immensely. MTL wasn't ready for it and didn't adjust. Many of his rushes were ultimately unsuccessful but the puck was moved away from Talbot and MTL couldn't attack. Still some weird passes and giveaways that I don't expect from a player of his calibre. Hoping he's settling in and it is a style issue rather than substance thus far.

Klefbom
- All over the map. I'm not even sure how to describe the game he played. Horrible coverage at times, shut down beautifully at others. Wasn't moving, then rushed the puck up ice multiple times. Couldn't pass and then got an assist and started hitting his man. His game was still below my standards for him, but this really could have spiralled out of control and he managed to get it together. Good to see him fight it out.

Nurse
- Well, I don't think he's going back to California. What I saw tonight was a patient, aggressive defencemen who picked his spots all night and figured out he could drive the play forward. Then, he took flight. It is a beautiful thing to watch him fly up the ice with the puck. He also owned several Habs in the corners and used his reach effectively as well. He does so many things that the Oilers are lacking in their other blue liners. He was not perfect, but man have we been missing a player like this for a long time. I would like to know who has been getting his game focused - it is a beautiful thing.

I think the adjustment that changed the complexion of this game was that the D started skating with the puck - specifically these last 4. MTL had no answer for it, as the forwards were attacking at speed. That top 6 in flight is a nightmare. The challenge has been the D so far. Chiarelli needed to watch this game closely. It is time to make a move to support your elite young forwards. They will set the world on fire with 2 more D that can move the puck.

Talbot
- Good enough. Could have maybe made one more stop, but didn't need to in the end. Great when tested a couple times in the third. You can see the team is comfortable with him back there and he just doesn't get rattled. That's everything for a goalie. Many guys would have been shaking wondering if the hook was coming. Not Talbot.
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That was awesome. You live for nights like that as a fan. There's something here guys. Time to seize the opportunity.
 

Suxnet

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All the talk is going to be about McDavid, and rightfully so, but Yak has been awesome this season as well. The big plays and the little plays; Yak's just doing everything right and his game has been very complete so far.

Hall and Drai were good I thought, but aside from setting up the game winner, Nuge didn't do a whole lot for the minutes he played. Hall has kind of been carrying that line along, but production should be easier now with Drai on it.
 

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The Hopkins line played an insane amount of minutes and didn't get beat. That's something.

I also noted that I wasn't going to focus on the first half. It was horrid.

If you can't say a team that was 9 and 1 is solid I can't help ya.
 

Jepprey

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The defensemen analysis is spot as it has been for years now, that it's like they are all over the place. they just know the d corps is so bad so they they try to do too much and end up messing up. Very frustrating.

Bet many turned their tvs off after that ugly first period. lol. Team looked really good when Nuge/Hall started getting double shifted.

Overall, the win was nice, but they still didn't play a full 60 minutes. When will we ever see consistent 60 min games from these guys?
 

McShiva

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Agree with this, the team played horrible the first period. especially the "D", the Habs stopped playing, and the Oilers took over. It should be noted that the Oilers defense did start moving the puck themselves, and the OP was right, the Habs couldn't handle it especially with all that speed at front.
Something I would guess TMac has wanted the team to do, and they finally did it?

Still, this team once they actually decide to play is head and shoulders better than last year. Those two lines are looking really good, and if that keeps up, what the hell do you do with Ebs? But then, he also was a center in Junior wasn't he, and maybe bump Purcell off the third line and keep Shepy up?
Nurse looked real good didn't he?

Good god, if this team had ever manged to play a full 60 minutes on a constant basis, we might even be talking about a playoff appearance in a few months. Still, we have played a lot of top 10 teams as well. I think the habs were the first team in the top ten that the Oil didn't lose to.

Oh, Yak at +3 for the season. :)
 

thadd

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People complain about Hopkins not looking better and it's crazy listening to anything of the sort.

Hopkins is still young as hell. How many his age do you know who can have the pressure of carrying a multimillion dollar organization? Yeah, thought so.

Considering the match-ups, stats and minutes he plays, Hopkins is amazing. His giveaway/takeaway ratio is great this year.

Hall has been turning this up, but he's just playing at the level we expected. He started slow and I don't think that was from coming into camp unprepared.

Has Yakupov been better? Hell yes, but he's been given a bit too much credit at this point. I wasn't able to watch this game but in previous games I've noticed that he starts off really weak. In many 1st periods he looks afraid of the puck and tries to get rid of it before it even comes to his stick. It's caused some problems. I'm willing to bet that (before this game, of course) he led the team in times having iced the puck in the first period. IMO it's a sign of panicking.

It's so sad watching our goalies and top six forwards play so well and watch our bottom six and 1/2 of our d-men play such sad hockey.

At this point I think it's safe to say that Pouliot was the only Mac-T acquisition that hasn't bitten us in the ass.

If he hasn't already, the coach needs to take Lander, Purcell, Korpikoski, Ference and Davidson aside and explain to them 1 on 1 that our farm team isn't doing too well and that if playing in the NHL is too hard for them we could send them down to the farm team so that they could at least have a decent record. Ask them if they're looking to retire at the end of the year, because nobody in the right mind would touch their contracts with a 10-foot pole at this point.

In Ference's case, I'd bribe him to retire. Offer him an overpaid contract to do something for us off of the ice to get his horrid salary cap off of the books.
 

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I absolutely love Nurse. Man Child is a beast.

McDavid, how in god's green earth did we get so lucky?

Hall and Nuge were leaders last night.

What I love most, is how damn excited Yak gets when anyone scores, no matter what is going on in a game. I think I am happiest about his play most of all.

I hope Eakins is watching every single game and Yak is giving him the middle finger each time he makes a great play. For him to be on the ice in the last minute with a one goal lead speaks volumes.
 

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Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
- Detailed their goal up above. McDavid was unstoppable in this game. When he's 23 he'll draw 2 or more holding penalties a night from dmen trying to stop his rushes with no hope. He blew by every MTL defender. He nailed a guy near the Oilers bench. He was mean sometimes, great all the time and made the type of play I suspect we'll come to know him for to set up the winner. It's just a treat watching this guy play and we're barely into his first season. Wow. Yakupov played a really solid game as well, winning several board battles, getting quality shots only to be robbed by Price, and forechecking at a high pace all night. He's seeing passing lanes really well and making his linemates better. Pouliot did exactly what he needs to do, with the added bonus of getting MTL a little riled up. Just a great game from this line.
i think this line evaluation is bang-on. the bolded section especially should not be discounted. he was under Subban's skin and i think it affected Subban's game (if you look at shot metrics, it shows). McDavid too for that matter. He snowed Price which pissed him off and seemed to throw him mentally off-kilter all game (e.g. supposed skate issues), then Subban piled on him after the near breakaway that Subban could hardly contain.

I think I saw the D a little better than you tonight, but to each their own.

All the talk is going to be about McDavid, and rightfully so, but Yak has been awesome this season as well. The big plays and the little plays; Yak's just doing everything right and his game has been very complete so far.

Hall and Drai were good I thought, but aside from setting up the game winner, Nuge didn't do a whole lot for the minutes he played. Hall has kind of been carrying that line along, but production should be easier now with Drai on it.
Yak is going to the right positions now and forechecking better. I think the coaching staff deserve a lot of credit - there was a least one shot of them 1-on-1 with Yak between shifts last night. but playing with McDavid can't be that hard when you're an agressive shooter.

Nuge is doing just fine. i think a lot of people miss what he does because a lot of it is along the boards and subtle. he's also getting his mojo back after being used and abused for the past two years.
 

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I loved reading this report. Summed up my emotions watching the game at home. What a freakin' ride. So happy to see us come from behind, even after being out-played for half a game. That's the kind of character we need this team to display if we're going to turn this around, and the exact of opposite of the team we've seen the last few years. 'Blown leads' and 'the Edmonton Oilers' used to be synonymous. I'm not sure why I've seen a few comments saying that this is 'just like we've seen in the past'... it really isn't.

Our defence is what cost us in the first. Just a laughable effort by them and some of our bottom 6. I'm super happy that McLellan decided to just run with our young guns. I remarked to my friend right after the game that I feel so optimistic about our future after watching this game - this was all on our young players. All of our vets except Pouliot and (kind of) Sekera were just laughably bad. The kids took this one and ran with it in the late second and third.

I'm going to go ahead and say we just have 2 first lines now. 1A and 1B. The Pouliot-ConYak line appears to be our offensive pressure line and Hall-RNH-Whoever is taking the hard minutes and match ups. Both played great last night. McDavid of course was the spark that drove us back into it and I'm so very thankful we have him...thank McJesus indeed.

Klefbom was miserable at first, but also key to our comeback, so there's that. Nurse looks way more ready than I expected, great to see. And Drai also made a hell of a statement in his first game back, damn.


Has Yakupov been better? Hell yes, but he's been given a bit too much credit at this point. I wasn't able to watch this game but in previous games I've noticed that he starts off really weak. In many 1st periods he looks afraid of the puck and tries to get rid of it before it even comes to his stick. It's caused some problems. I'm willing to bet that (before this game, of course) he led the team in times having iced the puck in the first period. IMO it's a sign of panicking.

It's so sad watching our goalies and top six forwards play so well and watch our bottom six and 1/2 of our d-men play such sad hockey.

At this point I think it's safe to say that Pouliot was the only Mac-T acquisition that hasn't bitten us in the ass.

Way to go into a post game report and then comment without seeing the game...

That said, I disagree wholeheartedly. Yak's not getting enough credit because he's playing with McDavid. He's a integral part of their line - Pouliot is clearly their passenger. It's only natural when paired with an amazing talent like McDavid that people assume all of your success is because of the chosen one, but Yakupov has IMO been our second or third best player almost every game since ConYak has been put together. Does he play tentative at times? Yes. Does he still make panicked mistakes at times? Yes. But they're already few and far between, and the gap between McLellan Yak and Eakins Yak is so mind-blowingly wide I'm having a hard time believing that this is real life. If anyone ever tells me that coaches don't have an effect on a player again, I'm just going to pull out the example of Yakupov. I really hope he continues to improve all year. So far it looks like he will.
 
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phaedrusDH

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it must be hell playing with the ConYak line.

McDavid would be frustratingly hard to play against, and Yak and Poo are just tenacious agitators on the forecheck.
 

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Thanks for the report again. I wasn't able to catch much of the game, just bits and pieces and the highlights.

Is it ever amazing to see Yakupov look like a #1 pick again this year. I don't know if this would have happened without getting McDavid, but they just seem like a perfect fit, Gretzky's Kurri(not anywhere near that level yet, but you get the meaning). I wonder if Yakupov would have been able to turn it around without McDavid?

I can only hope that Nurse continues to show the ability to become that #1D we so desparately need.
 

CupofOil

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Enjoyed the rundown LMHF.

I think people need to lay off of Nuge a bit. I too am longing for the days when he looked like an elite playmaker but the fact of the matter is that he has to work so hard in every area of the ice that I think it takes away from his focus on the offensive side of things a bit. In his rookie season, he was playing soft minutes and wasn't depended on to carry the mail in all situations so he was allowed a lot more freedom to create offense and had the energy to do so.

I think he's the hardest working player on the team, just watch all the effort he expends in all 3 zones and at 25 minutes a night practically playing in all situations. That will take a toll on anybody outside of a robot like Keith who can probably play 40 minutes a night and not lose a sweat.
I think the offense will come with time and once he gains confidence in his RWer whoever that winds up being when Eberle returns. The fact of the matter is that Nuge is not a line driver offensively like McDavid or even Hall so he needs somebody to differ to to get the most out of his production.
 

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I kept hearing from other fan bases that clearly McDavid is just has Yakupov as a passenger along for the magical ride that they are one... but I have to disagree vehemently. While clearly McDavid is tops, Yakupov has been playing like a man on fire. Playing with McDavid may have been the catalyst, but Yak's not getting secondary assists that mean nothing. Most plays that lead to a goal have great things happening from each player on the line - even Pouliot. This is something that I'm extremely happy to be seeing this early in the season. That we have two players on a 7-game scoring streak 12 games into the season is fantastic. And for a guy like Pouliot to be pulling his weight on that line as well. I'm just flabbergasted watching this line play some nights.

Nurse has impressed me immensely as well. The guy is already looking better than any D we've had in recent years. It's rather ridiculous. I really see potential greatness in him. I'm really looking forward to him unlocking that.

Great report, LMHF.

Was a great game to watch.
 

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Having Nuge and Hall on one line, and McDavid and Yak on the other is giving us a nice problem to have. Teams do not know how to match up against us. If McDavid keeps progressing, and when Eberle gets back, this team could really take flight. I hope so.

Your right about the D LMHF. Same problems we have had for years. To me, Nurse already looks like our most consistent dman, although its only two games in. Hopefully the others can pick it up, and Nurse stays up. Get rid of Ference for god sakes.
 

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What I love most, is how damn excited Yak gets when anyone scores, no matter what is going on in a game. I think I am happiest about his play most of all.

He's the first guy to the bench for high fives every goal. Often fools the camera man into thinking he scored. That attitude is contagious.

As a player, he hasn't changed. Eakins approach was killing his enthusiasm and any slight mistakes on nights when he didn't score were punished. He's playing the same game, just a little better in the defensive zone and with the great line mates that a #1 pick should have.

The guy hasn't even started to score yet. Once they start going in - look out.
 

doulos

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He's the first guy to the bench for high fives every goal. Often fools the camera man into thinking he scored. That attitude is contagious.

As a player, he hasn't changed. Eakins approach was killing his enthusiasm and any slight mistakes on nights when he didn't score were punished. He's playing the same game, just a little better in the defensive zone and with the great line mates that a #1 pick should have.

The guy hasn't even started to score yet. Once they start going in - look out.

He's about on pace with his shooting percentage and shots per game as the past couple seasons. I'd expect maybe a slight uptick in his goals per game, but nothing drastic. What he's doing in all of the other areas of the ice has been very impressive though.
 

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I have to add a key observation on Pouliot's goal. I don't think anyone questioned it because it was a goal, but at first glance, your initial reaction to his shot might have been "wtf?" because he took it way far out while he was still high up on the circles, even though he was in all alone, rather than getting into the slot where you would think you have a better shot. But did you notice how Price was so off-balance? This was actually a brilliant decision by Pouliot, and as a goaltender I know why he as a shooter did this so it was actually a truly amazing read by Pouliot to cap off those excellent plays by McDavid and Yak. Price had just charged out to challenge and was in the midst of getting his rhythm of push-backs into the net to meet Pouliot's speed if he tried a deke. Pouliot timed his shot perfectly and caught Price early in the push-backs, and as his weight was transferring to his right leg, kind of the same thing as a player catching another player flat-footed. With his weight just getting on that leg, Price couldn't kick it out to stop it.

The fact that Pouliot took that shot from so far out, seemingly unideal, tells me he made that on purpose. So I actually have to give a ton of credit here to Pouliot for capping off that amazing play.
 

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I have to add a key observation on Pouliot's goal. I don't think anyone questioned it because it was a goal, but at first glance, your initial reaction to his shot might have been "wtf?" because he took it way far out while he was still high up on the circles, even though he was in all alone, rather than getting into the slot where you would think you have a better shot. But did you notice how Price was so off-balance? This was actually a brilliant decision by Pouliot, and as a goaltender I know why he as a shooter did this so it was actually a truly amazing read by Pouliot to cap off those excellent plays by McDavid and Yak. Price had just charged out to challenge and was in the midst of getting his rhythm of push-backs into the net to meet Pouliot's speed if he tried a deke. Pouliot timed his shot perfectly and caught Price early in the push-backs, and as his weight was transferring to his right leg, kind of the same thing as a player catching another player flat-footed. With his weight just getting on that leg, Price couldn't kick it out to stop it.

The fact that Pouliot took that shot from so far out, seemingly unideal, tells me he made that on purpose. So I actually have to give a ton of credit here to Pouliot for capping off that amazing play.

The Habs broadcasters were floating the idea that the skate blade problems didn't allow Price to push off his edge properly or at least let he be confident that he could push off properly. I think they were just grasping at straws to placate the fans back home after a huge momentum swinging goal.
 

thadd

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I loved reading this report. Summed up my emotions watching the game at home. What a freakin' ride. So happy to see us come from behind, even after being out-played for half a game. That's the kind of character we need this team to display if we're going to turn this around, and the exact of opposite of the team we've seen the last few years. 'Blown leads' and 'the Edmonton Oilers' used to be synonymous. I'm not sure why I've seen a few comments saying that this is 'just like we've seen in the past'... it really isn't.

Our defence is what cost us in the first. Just a laughable effort by them and some of our bottom 6. I'm super happy that McLellan decided to just run with our young guns. I remarked to my friend right after the game that I feel so optimistic about our future after watching this game - this was all on our young players. All of our vets except Pouliot and (kind of) Sekera were just laughably bad. The kids took this one and ran with it in the late second and third.

I'm going to go ahead and say we just have 2 first lines now. 1A and 1B. The Pouliot-ConYak line appears to be our offensive pressure line and Hall-RNH-Whoever is taking the hard minutes and match ups. Both played great last night. McDavid of course was the spark that drove us back into it and I'm so very thankful we have him...thank McJesus indeed.

Klefbom was miserable at first, but also key to our comeback, so there's that. Nurse looks way more ready than I expected, great to see. And Drai also made a hell of a statement in his first game back, damn.



I understand that you always seem to need to be contrary to the 'mood' of the boards, but I'm shocked you're mad at this team for playing at a level they haven't been able to in the past. I've seen you post constantly during the Eakins years that we need to see our offensive stars play up to their talent level. Well, you damn well got that tonight - we lived solely on our young talent. Yes, Montreal let off the gas, and yes I agree that the Habs are overrated and living off of Price (again), but the Oilers are due more than a little credit here. The Habs are still a good team, and McLellan really got them to get their act together after that first.



lmao, way to go into a post game report and then comment without seeing the game...

That said, I disagree wholeheartedly. Yak's not getting enough credit because he's playing with McDavid. He's a integral part of their line - Pouliot is clearly their passenger. It's only natural when paired with an amazing talent like McDavid that people assume all of your success is because of the chosen one, but Yakupov has IMO been our second or third best player almost every game since ConYak has been put together. Does he play tentative at times? Yes. Does he still make panicked mistakes at times? Yes. But they're already few and far between, and the gap between McLellan Yak and Eakins Yak is so mind-blowingly wide I'm having a hard time believing that this is real life. If anyone ever tells me that coaches don't have an effect on a player again, I'm just going to pull out the example of Yakupov. I really hope he continues to improve all year. So far it looks like he will.

I did say that Yakupov is better and I didn't say that he wasn't part of what made that line good. I did say that he's pretty brutal in the 1st period. I haven't missed any first periods yet. I've missed 2 2nd periods and 3 first periods so far.

Second or third best player? I'm assuming that's not including Talbot. Including goalies I'd put Yakupov at #4 behind Mcdavid, Hopkins and Talbot.

For some odd reason the hockey news might even put Sekera in front of Yakupov, since they seem impressed with his work so far. :dunno:
 

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I did say that Yakupov is better and I didn't say that he wasn't part of what made that line good. I did say that he's pretty brutal in the 1st period. I haven't missed any first periods yet. I've missed 2 2nd periods and 3 first periods so far.

Second or third best player? I'm assuming that's not including Talbot. Including goalies I'd put Yakupov at #4 behind Mcdavid, Hopkins and Talbot.

For some odd reason the hockey news might even put Sekera in front of Yakupov, since they seem impressed with his work so far. :dunno:

Well at least you caught the first then. Your first post said 'the game' so I went with that.

As for a bad first, it was a horrific first by the team, especially the D. He was hardly the only one making panic plays this game, weird to focus on it and say he's getting too much praise when I saw Hall and Nuge make similar dumps :dunno:.

And yeah, I should have said skaters. Including Talbot I would bump that to third or fourth as well, though I think there have definitely been games where he's outplayed Nuge (albeit with easier minutes!).

Sekera is a weird choice, lol.
 

Frank the Tank

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He's the first guy to the bench for high fives every goal. Often fools the camera man into thinking he scored. That attitude is contagious.

As a player, he hasn't changed. Eakins approach was killing his enthusiasm and any slight mistakes on nights when he didn't score were punished. He's playing the same game, just a little better in the defensive zone and with the great line mates that a #1 pick should have.

The guy hasn't even started to score yet. Once they start going in - look out.

You can tell from McLellan's post-game interviews that he knows how to ride the line between holding these young players accountable and yet not sucking the fun out the game for them. In particular, I thought his answer to the Draisaitl's long day question was great. Basically, and I'm paraphrasing, McLellan continues to preach the that having consistent success (and fun) in the NHL requires day-to-day hard work; however, once you achieve success you realize the effort is worth it. He effectively communicates that the alternative path is not the ideal or fun one.

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thadd

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Well at least you caught the first then. Your first post said 'the game' so I went with that.

As for a bad first, it was a horrific first by the team, especially the D. He was hardly the only one making panic plays this game, weird to focus on it and say he's getting too much praise when I saw Hall and Nuge make similar dumps :dunno:.

And yeah, I should have said skaters. Including Talbot I would bump that to third or fourth as well, though I think there have definitely been games where he's outplayed Nuge (albeit with easier minutes!).

Sekera is a weird choice, lol.

I was talking about Yakupov's whole season of 1st periods in general.

Has Yakupov been better? Hell yes, but he's been given a bit too much credit at this point. I wasn't able to watch this game but in previous games I've noticed that he starts off really weak. In many 1st periods he looks afraid of the puck and tries to get rid of it before it even comes to his stick. It's caused some problems. I'm willing to bet that (before this game, of course) he led the team in times having iced the puck in the first period. IMO it's a sign of panicking.
 

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I was talking about Yakupov's whole season of 1st periods in general.

I think we're going to start going in circles here, but I don't agree with 1st periods in general. I think he occasionally panics still, but haven't noticed 'weak 1sts' as a trend at all.
 

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The Habs broadcasters were floating the idea that the skate blade problems didn't allow Price to push off his edge properly or at least let he be confident that he could push off properly. I think they were just grasping at straws to placate the fans back home after a huge momentum swinging goal.

Did they really. I think this one was on Pouliot. His shot choice signals that to me.
 

The Nuge

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I absolutely love Nurse. Man Child is a beast.

McDavid, how in god's green earth did we get so lucky?

Hall and Nuge were leaders last night.

What I love most, is how damn excited Yak gets when anyone scores, no matter what is going on in a game. I think I am happiest about his play most of all.

I hope Eakins is watching every single game and Yak is giving him the middle finger each time he makes a great play. For him to be on the ice in the last minute with a one goal lead speaks volumes.

Ya, Yakupov might just be the easiest player in the league to pull for. His attitude is contagious, and it can really pull a team through when they're slumping, when you have a guy like that. I was planning on buying an orange Klefbom jersey, but with them not being available until like December, I might just be switching it to Yak

Did they really. I think this one was on Pouliot. His shot choice signals that to me.

I missed it, but it wouldn't surprise me. They are absolutely atrocious. Half the things that came out of their mouths were either false facts (did you know we traded for Pouliot?) or them slaughtering names (Slepchev)

Edit: and ya, I agree with you. Pouliot caught him off guard
 

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