2016 LMHF Report - Game #4

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EDMONTON 3

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LOS ANGELES 3

As far as I'm concerned, we're in a rain delay.
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Ya know, caring again really sucks sometimes.

There's a hockey team playing in that rink. It's even wearing the right color jerseys. They're very close even with some obvious holes in the lineup that could be filled. They don't need the guys in stripes and the Toronto replay crew ganging up on them. With a replacement level defence this team is probably 6 and 3, at least.

Good move having this game at 730 instead of the usual 6. Made the atmosphere a lot more 'Saturday night' as opposed to Sunday. The crowd is starting to get into it again. If this team can streak through the next homestand, this place will be cooking again.

All the focus will be on the goal Connor McDavid scored with 5 seconds left and that will detract from what was an interesting hockey game even with not a lot going on. It is true that the Kings weren't setting the world on fire - they also weren't completely shut off either. The fact is that despite being outshot, the Oilers were never more than one shot from the game being even. That's something against this Kings team.

I swear Quick has done this before with the glove backwards across the line. Maybe even to the Oilers. He knows he got beat.

Why would a ref reverse his own call on the ice? I'm thinking that must be disallowed going forward. It looks way too fishy for one thing. It screwed them over badly tonight and the guy probably wasn't even thinking about it. Too bad he was on the wrong side of the net too. Little things. It should have never come down to that, but it did.

McLellan managed his bench well to the point where I barely missed Schultz being gone. He rewarded Gryba and rightly so. The guy made plays. Oscar Klefbom got a PP assist. That's a role he should get to try. They played the sort of game that the Kings couldn't exploit or run away in. That's saying something. That's important. It will serve this team well going forward.

The fate of this season may come down to whether Chiarelli is ready, willing and able to pull the trigger on a deal or two for defencemen. If they were able to cash in Fayne and a pick for a more two-way player of slightly better pedigree than Fayne, then grab another supporting player, and have Nurse play his way onto the team, you've got a group that could probably support the forwards and goalie - who are playoff calibre. We'll see if that happens. I sure hope it does.

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Talbot
- He can't get beat by that bank shot. Not good at all. What I've noticed so far about Talbot though is that ugly goals don't get him down. He was excellent after that goal and you certainly can't fault him for the loss. He could have stole this one for them though and came up just short. Too bad.

Gryba
- The surprise of the year so far for me. I didn't see it in training camp - really didn't. I must've expected a defencemen of his size and facial hair to play a different sort of game I guess. What he's done is not run around crushing people, but played a steady positional game, moved the puck simply and effectively with very few 'glass and out's, and taken care of his defensive partners. Honestly, that's damn impressive compared to where my expectations were. I still suspect we're seeing him good because of the company he keeps, but thankfully we're not seeing him as one of them or worse. This team would be in big trouble if we were. Had one bad giveaway in a ton of icetime.

Davidson
- Got beat a couple times, but skated well and made generally good choices with the puck. He knows how to get it, skate to a productive spot and pass. He was also on near the end trying to get a goal and did just fine. He's a much better option than Ference. Simple as that. He should keep playing as long as a spot is there.

Schultz
- Didn't see him do much of anything before he got hurt. Didn't see him get hurt for that matter.

Klefbom
- Much better game than last. He was much more into this one and I suspect he got a wakeup call from McLellan that helped with that. The thing is, he still didn't step up and look unique or better than his teammates. That's an issue. He should be making plays every night that make him look like he's not just another defenceman. Those have been missing this year. Too comfy? Nicked up? Adapting to the new system? I'm not sure yet, but I'm watching.

Sekera
- Ugh...this guy is starting to frustrate me. I know a lot is being asked of him, but you can't blow coverage like he did on the third LA goal. You have to have that man. He screwed up in this regard multiple times against Washington too. Is this a weakness of his game? It's starting to look like it. The thing is - he was advertised to me as an offensively capable player and yet I'm not seeing the passes or the shooting that was indicate this. My hope is that he's just adjusting and things will be okay, but I'm starting to get a little concerned.

Fayne
- Okay. Again. I don't think that's enough with the group around him. Plain is not a luxury we have at the moment.

Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
- These guys are producing offence with relative ease on a consistent basis against tough opponents. This is in terms of both goals and chances. You've got to love watching these guys attack. They played more of a rush game than a turnover game tonight and it still generally worked. I don't think McLellan expected their success and is honestly having a bit of an issue deploying them because he thought the Hall-Hopkins line would be his #1. They're not. McDavid was fabulous again. Watching him blow by excellent NHL defencemen with ease will never get old. He attacks the net like no one I've seen live. Great job getting open and setting up Pouliot, and creating chances the rest of the game. I'm struggling a little bit with how he didn't put the chance at the end in the roof. Quick is so good along the ice. Yakupov and Pouliot were both good again, getting open, keeping up and distributing. Two things to note - Yakupov is routinely making better plays from his own zone that spring linemates with speed, and Pouliot has found his money spot in the slot. The way these guys bared down and produced three chances from their work at the very end of the game was a delight to see. You're never out of it with guys like McDavid and Yakupov on the ice. Really too bad there was no one close enough in a 6-on-5 to tap in Yakupov's point shot as that was a ripper that Quick barely got. If things stay in place, these guys are going to make it rain all year. So long as injuries are avoided and the team doesn't tank, I'm predicting 100 for McDavid. If you combine what he's doing now with the fact that he's improving and hasn't even had a big game yet - and yes I know how tough 100 is these days - I see it happening. What a treat!

Hall-Hopkins-Klinkhammer
- A better night from these guys for sure, but they're still not 'humming'. Part of that can be attributed to Klinkhammer for sure. I'm not bagging on the guy - he did his best, skated well, got a couple of chances and landed some hits. For him, that's a great game. The thing is that his presence on the line means that LA essentially sends three to guard Hall and Hopkins. This severely limits what they can do. They combined on a nice goal that I think we'll see more of as the season goes on. Hall was better tonight - though he's lucky he didn't get a really untimely penalty in the third. He looked closer to getting things rolling tonight. Hopkins was good again. He's just extremely consistent and is really coming along as a guy who can play against the very best. Credit to Hall as well for getting the best of Doughty on a few occasions - that ain't easy.

Korpikoski-Lander-Purcell
- Not a lot of forecheck from Korpokoski tonight which is basically how I judge his game. Penalties didn't look great to me but one of them also looked like a weak call so who knows. I suspect his lack of consistency has been what has held his career back. They fact that he hasn't gotten a shot with Hall and Hopkins is probably saying somemthing. Lander's had more noticeable games and I like to see him attacking more than he did tonight. It's not something that's 'needed' per se, but it can push you over the edge in marginal games and Lander is capable. Remember that he has a tendency like Paajarvi did to drift into cheating for defence. Hopefully the coach is on him for not being as aggressive as he could be. Purcell? Again, fired the puck and missed the net. If you're going to be known for only having a shot you can't be missing.

Gazdic-Letestu-Pakarinen
- Not a lot of time for this crew which was to be expected. Gazdic fought a solid fight, stood up to a really nice hit attempt and was decent enough out there. Letestu got called upon a couple of times in terms of powerplay and at the end of the game and did just fine for himself. I like Iiro - have since last year. He plays a nice game. Even though he wasn't out there much, you noticed a little bit of skill and he wasn't just another number. Would love to see a fourth line that swaps Slepyshev for Gazdic. Would let you roll four with ease.
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Like I said. Caring sucks sometimes. I'm bitter about losing this one tonight. They could have turned it many different times. Was it a sublime effort? Hell no. But good teams win all kinds of games in all kinds of ways. They're getting close though - and that's something. This feels different for sure.
 

syz

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Proactive question for Replacement - See you didn't like Klefbom tonight - what'd I miss?

Possibly a fox who may or may not have been moving quickly, and may or may not have been some more shiny variant of the colour grey, slipping a wax-sealed envelope into one of those new Canada Post mailbox condominiums that are slowly taking over the city.

I salute you for the report, though. I write a lot but would have truncated mine to "FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU."
 

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Proactive question for Replacement - See you didn't like Klefbom tonight - what'd I miss?

There was a shift in either 1st or 2nd period, can't remember which, where Klef had made multiple wrong reads in ownzone, also gave the puck away, leaving the Kings to establish a long possession in Oilers zone. Even the commentator, believe it was Remada, stated. "Klefbom just doesn't know what to do out there"

The guy is having a real crisis of confidence out there and its plain as day that his NHL game is still not baked. The Oilers, with the Chia contract seem to be all in on trying to have this guy in the NHL now but years later and he's still not ready. Looked lost out there. Not seeing reads, defensive assignments, not anticipating where puck will be or where play is going. In short he looks overwhelmed.

That's a huge concern.
 

doulos

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I think this is what you're going to get from the Oilers this season barring some changes on the back end from the team, and while I'd rather see a few more wins, this is so much better than what we've had in recent memory.

The team has much more confidence in goaltending, and it shows.

They have a slightly weaker bottom 6 than I would like to see - part of that is a guy like Hendricks being out, and Klinkhammer playing way over his head in the lineup. Even so, there is room for a touch more improvement there. Third line can do some good things out there but you never get the sense that they are going to finish the job - not good.

Blueline is so bad. Unless things chance this team will continue to struggle. Interesting that the team didn't seem to miss a beat without Schultz though. I don't think that will go unnoticed.

Once Eberle comes back the guys should see an uptick in PP performance, as well as having two solid lines that will be a threat, and it will fill out the bottom six a bit more once Hendricks returns and Klink is fit back into his proper role. I think that will help offensively.

With a fully healthy roster and the powerplay working better I think they could be a .500 team, but no better than that.

It's going to take the purging of some significant cash (Ference, Nikitin, Schultz, Purcell, Scrivens etc) to get the help on the back end needed for the team, and ufortunately that means waiting for some of those contracts to run out.
 

CupofOil

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There was a shift in either 1st or 2nd period, can't remember which, where Klef had made multiple wrong reads in ownzone, also gave the puck away, leaving the Kings to establish a long possession in Oilers zone. Even the commentator, believe it was Remada, stated. "Klefbom just doesn't know what to do out there"

The guy is having a real crisis of confidence out there and its plain as day that his NHL game is still not baked. The Oilers, with the Chia contract seem to be all in on trying to have this guy in the NHL now but years later and he's still not ready. Looked lost out there. Not seeing reads, defensive assignments, not anticipating where puck will be or where play is going. In short he looks overwhelmed.

That's a huge concern.

I agree, unfortunately.

He looks lost. I don't know if he's struggling with the system or just comfortable now that he got his payday but there has to be at least some concern with this start. It's not like there has been peaks and valleys in his play, there's been very few peaks and lots of valleys.

With that said, he's still very young and it's only the beginning of his 2nd season and more specifically, the first season with a legit, proven NHL coach so no need to panic quite yet.

Gryba can't continue to be the Oilers best defenseman. Kudos to Gryba but that's more a testament to how poor the rest of the group and more specifically Sekera and Klefbom, both of whom should be held to a higher standard, are playing.

I'd say that half of this D group should be replaced in the offseason and only one of those to be replaced with Nurse with other two being significant upgrades. Only Sekera, Klefbom and Gryba should be the holdovers.
Tough task to be sure but good GMs get this done. We'll really see what Chia is made of next offseason, tough decisions will have to be made.
The clock is ticking on McDavid's ELC, time to expedite this process.
 
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djdub

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Great write up LMHF, I agree with you on all points.

Always look forward to reading these at the end of home games.
 

dustrock

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Thanks LMHF.

On Klefbom,

he started the game 2-13 for Corgis. He was 8-6 after that.

He and Schultz were having a terrible start for the ages; I don't know if he's hurt, or Schultz was sick and Klefbom was overly concerned with covering for Schultz, but it was horrific.

But then sawing off around 8-6 for shot attempts after that with 5 d-men is pretty good, and I thought, especially in the 3rd period, he played rather well, I think there was one shift where he had 2-3 great plays.

One nice board play where 2 Kings were on him, he stayed patient and actually skated the puck out, and then passed it off, rather than blindly firing it. He had the nice stretch pass to Lander which resulted in Lander getting tripped and drawing the penalty. And he had the 2nd assist on the PP - nothing flashy, but pretty quick decision-making.

Thought the 3rd was the best he's played since Vancouver.

I see there's already a narrative developing on HFB Oilers that Klefbom isn't worth the contract and he sucks. Absent the Washington game and 1/2 the Kings game, I don't see it.

I can
 

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Thanks LMHF.

On Klefbom,

he started the game 2-13 for Corgis. He was 8-6 after that.

He and Schultz were having a terrible start for the ages; I don't know if he's hurt, or Schultz was sick and Klefbom was overly concerned with covering for Schultz, but it was horrific.

But then sawing off around 8-6 for shot attempts after that with 5 d-men is pretty good, and I thought, especially in the 3rd period, he played rather well, I think there was one shift where he had 2-3 great plays.

One nice board play where 2 Kings were on him, he stayed patient and actually skated the puck out, and then passed it off, rather than blindly firing it. He had the nice stretch pass to Lander which resulted in Lander getting tripped and drawing the penalty. And he had the 2nd assist on the PP - nothing flashy, but pretty quick decision-making.

Thought the 3rd was the best he's played since Vancouver.

I see there's already a narrative developing on HFB Oilers that Klefbom isn't worth the contract and he sucks. Absent the Washington game and 1/2 the Kings game, I don't see it.

I can



Regardless of how many puppies he has it does not pre-empt criticism of his game. Even if they are cute Corgi's. :help:
 

LaGu

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Great read as always, thanks for the effort.

I will be a bad supporter for a second and say that I wish Schultz is out for a while. Not because we don't need him, but because I am sick of the Klefbom - Schultz experiment. Klefbom should not be the one trusted with covering up for a player like Schultz, he should be paired with someone likeminded or with a veteran who can mentor him. Same goes for Schultz by the way. I don't like those two together.

I may be unfair but it seems to me that Klefbom on occasion is confused because he doesn't know where Schultz is or what he is doing. I had hopes in Schultz seeing how he started out, but even then I hold my breath when he is on ice. I don't want to because it should normally be enough worry having a sophomore D like Klefbom out there.

I don't worry that much over Klefbom's struggles this season. Imo he has mixed good and average play, and obvioulsy very bad in one game. That is ok for now. Problem is that everyone wants him to step up, and the team could really need it, but I think we need patience with him. Get him away from Schultz and give him 20 games or so. Then we can start talking if there is no improvement
 

oilz89*

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EDMONTON 3

VS.

LOS ANGELES 3

As far as I'm concerned, we're in a rain delay.
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Ya know, caring again really sucks sometimes.

There's a hockey team playing in that rink. It's even wearing the right color jerseys. They're very close even with some obvious holes in the lineup that could be filled. They don't need the guys in stripes and the Toronto replay crew ganging up on them. With a replacement level defence this team is probably 6 and 3, at least.

Good move having this game at 730 instead of the usual 6. Made the atmosphere a lot more 'Saturday night' as opposed to Sunday. The crowd is starting to get into it again. If this team can streak through the next homestand, this place will be cooking again.

All the focus will be on the goal Connor McDavid scored with 5 seconds left and that will detract from what was an interesting hockey game even with not a lot going on. It is true that the Kings weren't setting the world on fire - they also weren't completely shut off either. The fact is that despite being outshot, the Oilers were never more than one shot from the game being even. That's something against this Kings team.

I swear Quick has done this before with the glove backwards across the line. Maybe even to the Oilers. He knows he got beat.

Why would a ref reverse his own call on the ice? I'm thinking that must be disallowed going forward. It looks way too fishy for one thing. It screwed them over badly tonight and the guy probably wasn't even thinking about it. Too bad he was on the wrong side of the net too. Little things. It should have never come down to that, but it did.

McLellan managed his bench well to the point where I barely missed Schultz being gone. He rewarded Gryba and rightly so. The guy made plays. Oscar Klefbom got a PP assist. That's a role he should get to try. They played the sort of game that the Kings couldn't exploit or run away in. That's saying something. That's important. It will serve this team well going forward.

The fate of this season may come down to whether Chiarelli is ready, willing and able to pull the trigger on a deal or two for defencemen. If they were able to cash in Fayne and a pick for a more two-way player of slightly better pedigree than Fayne, then grab another supporting player, and have Nurse play his way onto the team, you've got a group that could probably support the forwards and goalie - who are playoff calibre. We'll see if that happens. I sure hope it does.

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Talbot
- He can't get beat by that bank shot. Not good at all. What I've noticed so far about Talbot though is that ugly goals don't get him down. He was excellent after that goal and you certainly can't fault him for the loss. He could have stole this one for them though and came up just short. Too bad.

Gryba
- The surprise of the year so far for me. I didn't see it in training camp - really didn't. I must've expected a defencemen of his size and facial hair to play a different sort of game I guess. What he's done is not run around crushing people, but played a steady positional game, moved the puck simply and effectively with very few 'glass and out's, and taken care of his defensive partners. Honestly, that's damn impressive compared to where my expectations were. I still suspect we're seeing him good because of the company he keeps, but thankfully we're not seeing him as one of them or worse. This team would be in big trouble if we were. Had one bad giveaway in a ton of icetime.

Davidson
- Got beat a couple times, but skated well and made generally good choices with the puck. He knows how to get it, skate to a productive spot and pass. He was also on near the end trying to get a goal and did just fine. He's a much better option than Ference. Simple as that. He should keep playing as long as a spot is there.

Schultz
- Didn't see him do much of anything before he got hurt. Didn't see him get hurt for that matter.

Klefbom
- Much better game than last. He was much more into this one and I suspect he got a wakeup call from McLellan that helped with that. The thing is, he still didn't step up and look unique or better than his teammates. That's an issue. He should be making plays every night that make him look like he's not just another defenceman. Those have been missing this year. Too comfy? Nicked up? Adapting to the new system? I'm not sure yet, but I'm watching.

Sekera
- Ugh...this guy is starting to frustrate me. I know a lot is being asked of him, but you can't blow coverage like he did on the third LA goal. You have to have that man. He screwed up in this regard multiple times against Washington too. Is this a weakness of his game? It's starting to look like it. The thing is - he was advertised to me as an offensively capable player and yet I'm not seeing the passes or the shooting that was indicate this. My hope is that he's just adjusting and things will be okay, but I'm starting to get a little concerned.

Fayne
- Okay. Again. I don't think that's enough with the group around him. Plain is not a luxury we have at the moment.

Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
- These guys are producing offence with relative ease on a consistent basis against tough opponents. This is in terms of both goals and chances. You've got to love watching these guys attack. They played more of a rush game than a turnover game tonight and it still generally worked. I don't think McLellan expected their success and is honestly having a bit of an issue deploying them because he thought the Hall-Hopkins line would be his #1. They're not. McDavid was fabulous again. Watching him blow by excellent NHL defencemen with ease will never get old. He attacks the net like no one I've seen live. Great job getting open and setting up Pouliot, and creating chances the rest of the game. I'm struggling a little bit with how he didn't put the chance at the end in the roof. Quick is so good along the ice. Yakupov and Pouliot were both good again, getting open, keeping up and distributing. Two things to note - Yakupov is routinely making better plays from his own zone that spring linemates with speed, and Pouliot has found his money spot in the slot. The way these guys bared down and produced three chances from their work at the very end of the game was a delight to see. You're never out of it with guys like McDavid and Yakupov on the ice. Really too bad there was no one close enough in a 6-on-5 to tap in Yakupov's point shot as that was a ripper that Quick barely got. If things stay in place, these guys are going to make it rain all year. So long as injuries are avoided and the team doesn't tank, I'm predicting 100 for McDavid. If you combine what he's doing now with the fact that he's improving and hasn't even had a big game yet - and yes I know how tough 100 is these days - I see it happening. What a treat!

Hall-Hopkins-Klinkhammer
- A better night from these guys for sure, but they're still not 'humming'. Part of that can be attributed to Klinkhammer for sure. I'm not bagging on the guy - he did his best, skated well, got a couple of chances and landed some hits. For him, that's a great game. The thing is that his presence on the line means that LA essentially sends three to guard Hall and Hopkins. This severely limits what they can do. They combined on a nice goal that I think we'll see more of as the season goes on. Hall was better tonight - though he's lucky he didn't get a really untimely penalty in the third. He looked closer to getting things rolling tonight. Hopkins was good again. He's just extremely consistent and is really coming along as a guy who can play against the very best. Credit to Hall as well for getting the best of Doughty on a few occasions - that ain't easy.

Korpikoski-Lander-Purcell
- Not a lot of forecheck from Korpokoski tonight which is basically how I judge his game. Penalties didn't look great to me but one of them also looked like a weak call so who knows. I suspect his lack of consistency has been what has held his career back. They fact that he hasn't gotten a shot with Hall and Hopkins is probably saying somemthing. Lander's had more noticeable games and I like to see him attacking more than he did tonight. It's not something that's 'needed' per se, but it can push you over the edge in marginal games and Lander is capable. Remember that he has a tendency like Paajarvi did to drift into cheating for defence. Hopefully the coach is on him for not being as aggressive as he could be. Purcell? Again, fired the puck and missed the net. If you're going to be known for only having a shot you can't be missing.

Gazdic-Letestu-Pakarinen
- Not a lot of time for this crew which was to be expected. Gazdic fought a solid fight, stood up to a really nice hit attempt and was decent enough out there. Letestu got called upon a couple of times in terms of powerplay and at the end of the game and did just fine for himself. I like Iiro - have since last year. He plays a nice game. Even though he wasn't out there much, you noticed a little bit of skill and he wasn't just another number. Would love to see a fourth line that swaps Slepyshev for Gazdic. Would let you roll four with ease.
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Like I said. Caring sucks sometimes. I'm bitter about losing this one tonight. They could have turned it many different times. Was it a sublime effort? Hell no. But good teams win all kinds of games in all kinds of ways. They're getting close though - and that's something. This feels different for sure.

Umm dude Sekera are you serious??? That third goal no one but Pearson knew where the puck was :help::help::help:
 

LTIR

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I missed the game... How was Pakarainen? Any chance we see him on the top line instead of Klink?

As for McDavid.. once he figures out the difference between junior and AHL goalies and starts roofing his shots he would be flirting with 50G mark.

3 times this season already where he underestimated NHL goalies and didnt finish it off.
 

LaGu

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Regardless of how many puppies he has it does not pre-empt criticism of his game. Even if they are cute Corgi's. :help:

The criticism is warrented, to a certain extent. He needs to step it up at some point during this season, that is certain. I just think he has a much better chance to do it without Schultz, and that is not saying he has to be away from Schultz to be able to take the next step, I just think it would be easier and quicker with another partner. I've been saying this since March last season when they were doing good and I still believe it.
 

SPIRIT

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Regardless of how many puppies he has it does not pre-empt criticism of his game. Even if they are cute Corgi's. :help:

I agree with your Klefbom take.

What I'm not sure of is whether his indecision and confusion is because of his partner, or his general lack of awareness.
 

oilz89*

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There was a shift in either 1st or 2nd period, can't remember which, where Klef had made multiple wrong reads in ownzone, also gave the puck away, leaving the Kings to establish a long possession in Oilers zone. Even the commentator, believe it was Remada, stated. "Klefbom just doesn't know what to do out there"

The guy is having a real crisis of confidence out there and its plain as day that his NHL game is still not baked. The Oilers, with the Chia contract seem to be all in on trying to have this guy in the NHL now but years later and he's still not ready. Looked lost out there. Not seeing reads, defensive assignments, not anticipating where puck will be or where play is going. In short he looks overwhelmed.

That's a huge concern.

Years later?..... it hasn't even beeone year since he came to the NHL. He hasn't even played a full NHL season yet bud calm your horses
 

Crabapple

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I like Klef until we're hemmed into our zone. He seems to run around a lot and leaves his man open. Needs to calm it down, but when he has the puck he's been great.
 

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It's weird. Klefbom played much better when Schultz left the game...makes me wonder if we should shake up the line combos.

Klefbom with Gryba
Reinhart with Schultz

See if having a steady guy with Klefbom allows him to calm down and play smarter.
 

McDreamy

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Agreed on your Gryba comments completely. He looked awful in preseason, and I saw him as a 6/7 type of defenseman. I didn't think he was capable of being as good as he has been for these first 9. Very 'honest' player, as McLellan said.
 

Aceboogie

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People are forgetting Klefbom is paired with Schultz. Not exactly getting alot of help defensively. His numbers with other D are pretty good.

Hes looked good in 3-4 games and not as good in others. But people have to take into account hes with Schultz

**** the Petry trade because Petry would have been a prime partner for Klefbom. **** you MacT
 

duul

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After seeing the replay, I was laughing at Fayne on the Pearson goal. What a bum.
 

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