2016 Lineups Part II...

[Patrick Division]

KrazyKat get us started...

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[Maurice of Orange]

This is a current line up from the end of last season with Free Agents added ect... ,but I haven't added any prospects to the Flyers line up. If I was going to add any prospects though I'd add Konecny, Provorov and maybe even Lyubimov because they are the top prospects that may earn a roster spot after Training Camp. If the 3 players above do make the roster the players that come off the roster are Weal (AHL or Claimed), VandeVelde (AHL or Claimed) and either MacDonald (AHL) or Schultz (trade).

Philadelphia Flyers Line-Up NHL

Line 1 LW Schenn C Giroux RW Simmonds
Line 2 LW Raffl C Couturier RW Voracek
Line 3 LW Laughton C Cousins RW Weise
Line 4 LW Bellemare C Gordon RW Read

1st D-Pair LD Del Zotto RD Gudas
2nd D-Pair LD MacDonald RD Gostisbehere
3rd D-Pair LD Schultz RD Streit

Goalie's:
#1 Mason
#2 Neuvirth

Scratched List
LW VandeVelde
C Weal
LD Manning
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Lehigh Valley Phantoms Line-Up AHL

Line 1 LW Leier C Miele RW Conner
Line 2 LW Straka C Lyubimov RW Aube-Kubel
Line 3 LW Martel C Carey RW Fazleev
Line 4 LW Goulbourne C Knight* RW McDonald

1st D-Pair LD Morin RD Alt
2nd D-Pair LD Sanheim RD Brennan
3rd D-Pair LD Hagg RD O'Neill

Goalie's:
#1 Stolarz
#2 Lyon

Scratched List
C Bardreau + injured out until Mid October
RW/C Zengerle*
RD Willcox
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Reading Royals ECHL
LW Swavely*
RD Pettersson
RD Lamarche*
RW Mathers*
C Sundher*
G Ouellette*
G Dekanich*
* Under contract to Phantoms
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Philadelphia Flyers Prospects
LD Provorov WHL Brandon
RW Konecny OHL Sarnia
RD Myers QMJHL Rouyn-Noranda
C Rubtsov KHL Chekhov
LW Lindblom SHL Brynäs IF
C Laberge QMJHL Victoriaville
RD Friedman NCAA Bowling Green State U
RW Allison NCAA Western Michigan U
LW Twarynski WHL Calgary
C Bunnaman OHL Kitchener
C Vorobyov KHL Ufa
LW Dove-McFalls QMJHL Saint John
RW Kase Czech Jr. Chomutov Pirati
RD Hogberg SHL Växjö
C Laczynski NCAA Ohio State U
C Marody NCAA Michigan U
LD Bernhardt SHL Djurgårdens IF
C Salinitri OHL Sarnia
LD Vasiliev KHL Omsk
RD Amorosa NCAA Clarkson U
LD Drake NCAA Connecticut U
G Hart WHL Everett
G Sandstrom SHL Brynäs IF
G Madsen NCAA Harvard U
G Fedotov KHL Ufa
G Tomek NCAA U of North Dakota

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Flyers 2016 Rookie Camp Roster

No. Forwards (12)
62 RW Nicolas Aube-Kubel
60 F Roman Lyubimov
82 C Connor Bunnaman
71 LW Samuel Dove-McFalls
65 C Radel Fazleev
56 LW Tyrell Goulbourne
63 RW Travis Konecny
75 C Pascal Laberge
72 RW Steven Swavely
70 LW Danick Martel
86 C Anthony Salinitri
81 LW Carsen Twarynski

No. Defensemen (7)
43 *D Garrett McFadden < training camp invite
46 *D Brennan Menell < training camp invite
50 LD Samuel Morin
64 LD Ivan Provorov
57 LD Travis Sanheim
61 RD Phillippe Myers
68 RD Reece Willcox

No. Goaltenders (2)
49 G Alex Lyon
79 G Carter Hart

 

[KrazyKat]

KrazyKat get us started...

Okay... Here we go. My honest prediction
Talk **** if you'd like.

Read will be traded.
Manning sent down.
Macdonald will outplay Schultz.
Konecny will shine.



LW C RW
Schenn--Giroux--Simmonds
Voracek--Couturier--Konecny
Raffl--Cousins--Weise
Laughton--Gordon--Bellemare
VandeVelde

LD. RD.
Del Zotto--Gostisbehere
Provorov--Gudas
Macdonald--Streit
Schultz


Mason
Nuevirth

 

[Ernest95]

Okay... Here we go. My honest prediction
Talk **** if you'd like.

Read will be traded.
Manning sent down.
Macdonald will outplay Schultz.
Konecny will shine.



LW C RW
Schenn--Giroux--Simmonds
Voracek--Couturier--Konecny
Raffl--Cousins--Weise
Laughton--Gordon--Bellemare
VandeVelde

LD. RD.
Del Zotto--Gostisbehere
Provorov--Gudas
Macdonald--Streit
Schultz


Mason
Nuevirth

I must say, I enjoy seeing your posts, seems like you enjoy doing these, anyway, depending on if provy makes the team, wouldn't he be better situated on the 3rd paring, at least to start the year? Though it would be great if he had no trouble on the 2nd pairing, or even the first (hopeful)

 

[kolankosf]

I must say, I enjoy seeing your posts, seems like you enjoy doing these, anyway, depending on if provy makes the team, wouldn't he be better situated on the 3rd paring, at least to start the year? Though it would be great if he had no trouble on the 2nd pairing, or even the first (hopeful)

Hakstol is gonna play the 3rd pair and 4th line more than the second pair and 3rd line anyways...

 

[kolankosf]

Schenn - G - Simmer
Raffl - Couts - Voracek
Laughton - Cousins - Weise
Bellemare - Gordon - Lubymov/Read
Lubymov/Read/VdV

Del Zotto - Gudas
Mac D - Ghost
Provy - Streit
Manning/Schultz

Mason/Neuvy

It's looking more and more that Read's time here could quickly be coming to an end, unfortunately. He was a good player who seemed to have lost his confidence. The addition of Weise has really numbered Read's days.

Sorry I can't spell Lubymov's name

Just went to the

I'm hoping that Hextall really finds it hard to send Provy back down. Watching him when the Wheat Kings rolled into Red Deer, you could tell he was on a whole other level, with Sanheim on a tier below him. There is really nothing for Provorov to prove at this point in the CHL... I really hope he makes it though.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Okay... Here we go. My honest prediction
Talk **** if you'd like.

Read will be traded.
Manning sent down.
Macdonald will outplay Schultz.
Konecny will shine.



LW C RW
Schenn--Giroux--Simmonds
Voracek--Couturier--Konecny
Raffl--Cousins--Weise
Laughton--Gordon--Bellemare
VandeVelde

LD. RD.
Del Zotto--Gostisbehere
Provorov--Gudas
Macdonald--Streit
Schultz


Mason
Nuevirth

You only have 22 players in your line up, you can add 1 player, max roster is 23 players.

For the most part though I like your line up...I'd keep Read on the 4th line RW and scratch Bellemare and VandeVelde. Also I'd rather keep Meatshield on the roster, and I'd rather see Schultz get traded away.

 

[sveiglar]

Schenn - G - Simmer
Raffl - Couts - Voracek
Laughton - Cousins - Weise
Bellemare - Gordon - Lubymov/Read
Lubymov/Read/VdV

Two questions from an outsider who has been impressed by the play of Laughton and Cousins at different levels:
1) With what looks like five locked-in top-6 forwards in this lineup and Konecny on the way, is there a path for either guy to break into the top-6?
2) And, based on their play, do either of them appear to have the game at this point to step into that role even if the opportunity was there? Felt in the past that Cousins could hang as a 2nd winger in an ideal situation but Laughton seemed best suited as a 3rd line, but would love to hear those who have watched them more.

 

[Magua]

Two questions from an outsider who has been impressed by the play of Laughton and Cousins at different levels:
1) With what looks like five locked-in top-6 forwards in this lineup and Konecny on the way, is there a path for either guy to break into the top-6?
2) And, based on their play, do either of them appear to have the game at this point to step into that role even if the opportunity was there? Felt in the past that Cousins could hang as a 2nd winger in an ideal situation but Laughton seemed best suited as a 3rd line, but would love to hear those who have watched them more.

1) Not really. If Konecny doesn't make the team, I think swapping Raffl and Laughton might be an interesting idea but probably not very likely. Future doesn't look promising there either. I don't think anyone expected them to be T6 players anyway.

2) Laughton could probably be a better scoring winger with his speed and shot. Cousins seems like a true center in his time with the big club. Frankly, he seems more suited to the 3rd line with his better 2-way play. But right now, Laughton=winger, Cousins=center going forward it appears.

 

[Alex91]

Cousins is a cheap piece that may be below average, but brings enough to the table to be effective (considering the talent on the 3rd line). If it looks like the flyers are making a run this year they will upgrade him at the TDL with a rental/internal.

till TDL
Schenn-Giroux-Simmonds
Raffl-Couts-Vorachek
Laughton-Cousins-Weise
PEB-Gordon-Read
VV

MDZ Gudas
Ghost Amac
Provorov Striet
Schultz
Manning (will play 14 games by deadline)

after TDL
Schenn-Giroux-Vorachek
Laughton-Couts-Simmonds
xxx-Raffl-Weise
PEB-Cousins-Leier
Read
Gordon

MDZ Ghost
Provorov Gudas
Morin Amac
Schultz

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Still interested to see what happens with Lyubimov in camp. He's pretty much the biggest wild card heading into it. I don't even know what they would view him as position wise as he has had previous experience playing all three forward spots.

Given his age though we should find out fairly quickly if he has what it takes to play at the NHL level. I'm hoping he makes the team out of camp though given his size & skillset along with his age.

 

[Curufinwe]

I am too, especially after unsuccessfully voting for him in every skater prospect poll from #15 on.

I thought I read he's a winger who doesn't do great on faceoffs, which is fine since we already have Laughton, Cousins, Bellemare and Gordon who can play center in the bottom 6.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I am too, especially after unsuccessfully voting for him in every skater prospect poll from #15 on.

I thought I read he's a winger who doesn't do great on faceoffs, which is fine since we already have Laughton, Cousins, Bellemare and Gordon who can play center in the bottom 6.

He's played both on the wing & down the middle over the years to my knowledge. I think he could be like Raffl was in his early years where the Flyers bounced him around the three foward spots early on to see where he stuck.

 

[Alex91]

I dont have Lyubimov penciled into the lineup because I cant see Hak giving a unproven NHLer or non-UND player a unearned role. Even with Schenn suspended I doubt he will crack the line up.

 

[Rebels57]

I dont have Lyubimov penciled into the lineup because I cant see Hak giving a unproven NHLer or non-UND player a unearned role. Even with Schenn suspended I doubt he will crack the line up.

I see what you did there.

God I hope we don't have to endure more VandeVelde this season.

 

[Curufinwe]

I dont have Lyubimov penciled into the lineup because I cant see Hak giving a unproven NHLer or non-UND player a unearned role. Even with Schenn suspended I doubt he will crack the line up.

That's a bit pessimistic. Medvedev started the season in the NHL last year under Hakstol.

Obviously, Hak wasn't coach when Raffl and PEB were NHL rookies but they only played two AHL games total. When Hextall goes and gets these guys from Europe, they tend to play for the Flyers.

 

[deadhead]

I don't think being a ND veteran will get you anything going forward.
Like a lot of coaches in all sports, Hakstol probably wanted a couple guys on his team who were familiar with his scheme. Now that it's been installed, there's no need for ND players.

All this means is last year ND might have been a tie-breaker when it came to roster decisions, this year it'll be irrelevant.

 

[Alex91]

As I said in my original post, he must earn a role. I think most would agree that Medv differently earned the job out of camp last year. If I member correctly he maybe of been the best D in preseason. But then again so did Ghost, and heck even Porter played better then all the bottom 6 guys.

In all honesty the odds of Lyu getting the 2LW job is next to none. As for the fourth line, PEB is a lock on wing, and I cant see Hak throwing Lyu in a 4C position right yet. Imo Gordon is the perfect Hak 4C. great on draws and strong on D. That only real openings is at 4LW and 3LW open. You gotta think that Laughton gets one of those 2, most likely 3LW with Cousins and Weise. That leaves the 4RW. Right now it would come down to Read Lyu VV Leier.

I personally see it playing out: Leier goes back to AHL to develop (similar to Cousins last year), VV is extra forward, leaving Read and Lyu the only options. If Lyu accepts a AHL assignment I think they will send him down LV, see how he handles top 6 minutes, and then recall him if one of Read, Laughton, Cousins, Gordon dont work out. Its probally the "safest" routes.

 

[Curufinwe]

With Schenn out for the first three games, I could see:

Raffl-G-Voracek
Read-Coots-Simmonds
Laughton-Cousins-Weise
Lyubimov-Gordon-Bellemare
VdV

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I don't think anybody but Weise is a lock in the bottom six right now. Some may get a little more leeway but Hextall didn't just make moves to default all those spots.

 

[Rebels57]

I don't think anybody but Weise is a lock in the bottom six right now. Some may get a little more leeway but Hextall didn't just make moves to default all those spots.

I would think Gordon is a lock at 4C as well. His faceoff prowess is essential.

 

[Alex91]

I don't think anybody but Weise is a lock in the bottom six right now. Some may get a little more leeway but Hextall didn't just make moves to default all those spots.

PEB is having a good 2wks on the world stage for both France and Team Europe. Imo he is a lock.

xxx-xxx-Weise
PEB-xxx-xxx

then id say for the guys we know:
Laughton-80% (swiss army knife. He could be slotted anywhere from 2LW-4W)
Cousins-70% (with Schenn out to start the year, the 3C is his spot to lose really)
Gordon-60% (Specialist, if he wins lots of draws and PKs well in preseason 4C is his)
Read-50% (is what he is. Cant blame his health anymore, expect 10g and good D)
Lyu -50% (never seen him play. But hoping he brings more O then Read and PEB)
VV-40% (100% he is on the roster as 13th F, he knows the system and can PK)
Konecny-40% (really cheering for, I get excited every time I his highlights)

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I don't think either two are a lock by any means. There isn't much invested into either of them always making them vulnerable to be outplayed for a spot. Gordon & Bellemare that is.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

If Lyubimov does make the Flyers roster out of training camp, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Laughton may be sent back to Lehigh Valley AHL, if he has a poor training camp.

Scott Laughton is the only forward on the Flyers roster that is waivers exempt, that's until Laughton plays in 50 NHL games this season.