Prospect Info: 2016 Leafs Board Prospect Ranking #30

[Schenn]

I will make a thread everyday until we have determined the top 30 prospects according to Leaf fans on HFBoards.

Rankings:
1. Auston Matthews -- 90.30%
2. Mitch Marner -- 77.42%
3. William Nylander -- 96.95%
4. Connor Brown -- 35.79%
5. Nikita Zaitsev -- 57.87%
6. Kasperi Kapanen -- 37.50%
7. Connor Carrick -- 35.27%
8. Travis Dermott -- 35.59%
9. Nikita Soshnikov -- 44.68%
10. Andreas Johnson -- 31.60%
11. Dmytro Timashov -- 26.03%
12. Kerby Rychel -- 42.38%
13. Andrew Nielsen -- 31.48%
14. Yegor Korshkov -- 32.60%
15. Brandon Leipsic -- 23.97%
16. Rinat Valiev -- 24.09%
17. Jeremy Bracco -- 26.42%
18. Carl Grundstrom -- 29.30%
19. Zach Hyman -- 38.10%
20. Josh Leivo -- 55.17%
21. Tobias Lindberg -- 22.12%
22. Frederik Gauthier -- 29.52%
23. Joseph Woll -- 38.37%
24. Adam Brooks -- 34.96%
25. JD Greenway -- 39.81%
26. Martins Dzierkals -- 51.52%
27. Jesper Lindgren -- 49.40%
28. Victor Loov -- 41.03%
29. Frankie Corrado -- 26.67%
30.

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On The Docket:
Nicolas Mattinen
Vladimir Bobylev
Trevor Moore
Pierre Engvall
Antoine Bibeau
Stephen Desrocher
Dakota Joshua
Nikolai Chebykin
Nikita Korostelev
Jack Walker
Justin Holl
Nolan Vesey
Tony Cameranesi
Garret Sparks
Keaton Middleton
Kasimir Kaskisuo
Dominic Toninato
John Piccinich

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[bobermay]

Voted Sparks.

Thanks Schenn! Are you done now??

 

[7even]

Surprised at how quickly we've collectively dismissed Garrett Sparks. No, he's not an NHL goalie at age 23, but are most goalies at that age? He's shown a consistent upward trend and has posted great stats at every level he's played at below the NHL. Even if his realistic projection is an NHL backup, that's a great deal more than most of our prospects will likely achieve.

I suppose at this point the criteria is absolute ceiling vs actual achieved development. I'm typically more of a ceiling guy, but would include Sparks on any iteration of a personal top 30. I don't think his failure to show immediate NHL readiness qualifies him as a complete write off.

Plus his twitter is hilarious.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Dakota Joshua sounds right.

 

[bobermay]

Surprised at how quickly we've collectively dismissed Garrett Sparks. No, he's not an NHL goalie at age 23, but are most goalies at that age? He's shown a consistent upward trend and has posted great stats at every level he's played at below the NHL. Even if his realistic projection is an NHL backup, that's a great deal more than most of our prospects will likely achieve.

I suppose at this point the criteria is absolute ceiling vs actual achieved development. I'm typically more of a ceiling guy, but would include Sparks on any iteration of a personal top 30. I don't think his failure to show immediate NHL readiness qualifies him as a complete write off.

Plus his twitter is hilarious.

I agree. If the Leafs didn't trade Reimer, Fan's would be singing a lot more praise towards Sparks. His first 5-6 games (before the trade) were stellar.

It wasn't until after the trade where he was exposed due to the tank... He lost his confidence and things quickly spiralled downhill.

But after the hint of success followed by his failures, I fully expect Sparks to rebound and be more focused than ever this offseason. I think he's still the Marlie's #1 G.

 

[Schenn]

Voted Sparks.

Thanks Schenn! Are you done now??

Until Vesey signs here, then we'll have a special addition poll.

 

[Rielly4]

guys common. Jack Walkers potential over Bobylevs all day.

Obviously its an opinion, but i wish more people shared this opinion lol.

 

[Lauro]

Bobylev

Bibeau > Sparks

No Top 40? :-(

 

[Mr Hockey*]

I think Nikita Korostelev will have a monster year in Sarnia, next season!

 

[Leafs at Knight]

I think Nikita Korostelev will have a monster year in Sarnia, next season!

That's what I said last year, saying he would easily be in our top 15 at this time if he plays to his potential... Oops.

And no these are usually just top 30, pretty sure Schenn does a mid season one also.

 

[Leaf Lander]

Bibeau

 

[Leaf Lander]

We need a top 35

 

[TheKingSlayer]

Guys, if we wanted Vesey to sign here, we probably should have voted his brother into our top 30. Geez!

 

[Bullseye]

Um Bibeau makes any teams top 30. Guy is a solid prospect. Has done nothing to change that.

 

[Joey Hoser]

Surprised at how quickly we've collectively dismissed Garrett Sparks. No, he's not an NHL goalie at age 23, but are most goalies at that age? He's shown a consistent upward trend and has posted great stats at every level he's played at below the NHL. Even if his realistic projection is an NHL backup, that's a great deal more than most of our prospects will likely achieve.

I suppose at this point the criteria is absolute ceiling vs actual achieved development. I'm typically more of a ceiling guy, but would include Sparks on any iteration of a personal top 30. I don't think his failure to show immediate NHL readiness qualifies him as a complete write off.

Plus his twitter is hilarious.

In my opinion, unless they are actually exceptional in some way, goalie prospects are basically all the same and have negligible value.

 

[Leaf Lander]

So r we gonna expand this to top 35 or not

 

[kk87]

Surprised at how quickly we've collectively dismissed Garrett Sparks. No, he's not an NHL goalie at age 23, but are most goalies at that age? He's shown a consistent upward trend and has posted great stats at every level he's played at below the NHL. Even if his realistic projection is an NHL backup, that's a great deal more than most of our prospects will likely achieve.

I suppose at this point the criteria is absolute ceiling vs actual achieved development. I'm typically more of a ceiling guy, but would include Sparks on any iteration of a personal top 30. I don't think his failure to show immediate NHL readiness qualifies him as a complete write off.

Plus his twitter is hilarious.

There's a chance Sparks could evolve into a solid backup at the NHL level, but I couldn't care less about having a goalie with decent backup potential in our system. The fact is, Sparks will never be anything close to a starting goalie at the NHL level, he doesn't nearly have the technical abilities to be that guy. I have a lot of respect for the guy nonetheless, and I agree, he's a riot on twitter.

 

[bobermay]

LOL! Sorry Schenn, we need a tie breaker!! :p

 

[bansheebeat]

Just saw that we have a guy like Bracco at #17 while the Islanders have Christopher Gibson at #17. That makes me very happy.

 

[The Kessel Run]

i voted Bobylev, but I think if you're going to put one goalie on this list, it has to be Bibeau.

 

[bobermay]

i voted Bobylev, but I think if you're going to put one goalie on this list, it has to be Bibeau.

Why? Because of Spark's rough finish to an NHL season? And why question our scouting staff who thinks Middleton > Bobylev??

His first few games before the Reimer trade were quite impressive actually... I'll admit Bibeau and SParks are close, but if I had the choose to keep one, I'd want to keep Sparks.

Lets compare their career stats.

Junior:
Garret Sparks: 138GP 71W 48L 9OTL 7716MIN 2.97GAA .909SV%
Antoine Bibeau: 126GP 56W 38L 10OTL 6538MIN 3.24GAA .901SV%

ECHL
Garret Sparks: 47GP 26W 13L 3OTL 2558MIN 2.42GAA .933SV%
Antoin Bibeau: NA

AHL:
Garret Sparks: 47GP 28W 10L 5OTL 2615MIN 2.41GAA .922SV%
Antoine Bibeau: 71GP 43W 19L 1OTL 4163MIN 2.70GAA .911SV%

NHL:
Garret Sparks: 17GP 6W 9L 1OTL 975MIN 3.02GAA .893SV%
Garret Sparks Pre Reimer Trade: 6GP 3W 2L 314 MIN 2.48GAA .918SV%
Antoine Bibeau: NA

 

[Bullseye]

In my opinion, unless they are actually exceptional in some way, goalie prospects are basically all the same and have negligible value.

Severe simplification of the most important positional players in the organization. They are not all basically the same. The challenge for the Leafs is sifting through them to find the qualities of the good ones. I still believe in Bibeau. Showed far greater consistent over the AHL season this year. Looking forward to him having another good campaign and developing even further.

 

[diceman934]

Just saw that we have a guy like Bracco at #17 while the Islanders have Christopher Gibson at #17. That makes me very happy.

Why Gibson would be our best Goalie prospect....

 

[bobermay]

30 TBD??

Rank|Pos.|Age|Nat.|Player|Vote%
1|F|18|

|Auston Matthews|90.3
2|F|19|

|Mitch Marner|77.42
3|F|20|

|William Nylander|96.96
4|F|22|

|Connor Brown|35.79
5|D|24|

|Nikita Zaitsev|57.87
6|F|20|

|Kasperi Kapanen|37.5
7|D|22|

|Connor Carrick|35.27
8|D|19|

|Travis Dermott|35.59
9|F|22|

|Nikita Soshnikov|44.68
10|F|21|

|Andreas Johnson|31.6
11|F|19|

|Dmytro Timashov|26.03
12|F|21|

|Kerby Rychel|42.38
13|D|19|

|Andrew Nielsen|31.48
14|F|20|

|Yegor Korshkov|32.6
15|D|22|

|Brendan Leipsic|23.97
16|D|21|

|Rinat Valiev|24.09
17|F|19|

|Jeremy Bracco|26.42
18|F|18|

|Carl Grundstrom|29.30
19|F|24|

|Zach Hyman|38.1
20|F|23|

|Josh Leivo|55.17
21|F|21|

|Tobias Lindberg|22.12
22|F|21|

|Frederic Gauthier|29.52
23|G|18|

|Joseph Woll|38.37
24|F|20|

|Adam Brooks|34.96
25|D|18|

|JD Greenway|39.81
26|F|19|

|Martins Dzierkals|51.52
27|D|19|

|Jesper Lindgren|49.10
28|D|23|

|Viktor Loov|41.03
29|D|23|

|Frankie Corrado|26.67
30|||||
NR|G|22|CAN|Antoine Bibeau|
NR|G|22|FIN|Kasmir Kaskisuo|
NR|G|23|USA|Garret Sparks|
NR|D|18|CAN|Keaton Middleton|
NR|D|18|CAN|Nicolas Mattinen|
NR|D|20|CAN|Stephen Desrocher|
NR|D|24|USA|Justin Holl|
NR|F|19|RUS|Vladimir Bobylev|
NR|F|19|RUS|Nikolai Chebykin|
NR|F|19|RUS|Nikita Korostelev|
NR|F|20|USA|Dakota Joshua|
NR|F|20|SWE|Pierre Engvall|
NR|F|20|USA|Jack Walker|
NR|F|20|USA|JJ Piccinich|
NR|F|21|USA|Trevor Moore|
NR|F|21|USA|Nolan Vesey|
NR|F|22|USA|Domonic Toninato|

 

[TheKingSlayer]

Why Gibson would be our best Goalie prospect....

No chance in hell that is true. Gibson is not very good.