Line Combos: 2016-2017 Line-up Discussion - Scurrred Edition

[Nordic*]

Right now, with many players leaving and others not resigned (yet), Anaheim hardly even looks like a playoff team.

We also don't have the depth to roll the twins on different lines anymore.

Assuming Lindholm and Rakell resign.


Rakell-Getzlaf-Perry

Cogliano-Kesler-Silfverberg

Ritchie-Thompson-Garbutt

Wagner-Noesen-Sgarbossa


Lindholm-Manson

Fowler-Bieksa

Despres-Vatanen


Gibson
Khudobin


That is one horrible lineup.

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[darkwingduck]

Thompson has a torn Achilles and dobby signed with boston. Soooooo its even worse

 

[KaseMeOutside]

if there is any regression at all from kesler/perry/getzlaf next year this team is in big trouble, i hope ownership is satisfied with their "let's just make the playoffs" mentality.

 

[Arthuros]

How did this team get so crap?

 

[DaDucks*]

We're going to have to get a couple skaters back for Cam....

 

[GreatBear]

if there is any regression at all from kesler/perry/getzlaf next year this team is in big trouble, i hope ownership is satisfied with their "let's just make the playoffs" mentality.

Without an upgrade with the forwards the Ducks are not going to make the playoffs.

 

[KelVarnsen]

Agreed....that lineup screams high lottery pick.

 

[Nordic*]

The more I look at this, I ask myself...can anyone name a worse forward roster in the NHL?

Vancouver perhaps. Calgary, Boston, Columbus?

We are without a doubt in the bottom-5.

Our defence isn't all that either - and the starting goalie is a young guy who is known for both ups and downs.

This upcoming season could get really ugly, really quickly.

Is the draft 2017 loaded, or did we pick a bad time to start sucking?



And worst of all.

Our three biggest money-pits are only getting older...

 

[KaseMeOutside]

well if things don't improve here soon, it will become arguable that the ducks window is closed, i just can't believe we have to lose good players because of murray's stupid decisions with stoner and bieksa, and then being proactive to go and place blame on his RFA situation. he knew this was coming and STILL got them and he STILL extended bieksa with a full NMC again knowing full well what was coming this summer.

people can say what they want, but the perron contract really irks me, i honestly thought he'd get either more money or a longer term. you never know if a free agent is going to fit your team, but we already knew he did the fact that the perron people and the ducks people were talking means there was interest from both sides in a return.

the ducks loss of so many good players has caught up, the palmieri trade is just as indefensible now as it was then, murray just ****ing gave him away. you know what would have been nice? if he scored a bunch of goals for us last year, and if you have to trade him now so be it but then again i have to call ********, because murray gave hagelin a 4 year deal right away. i'm just rambling but his poor asset management has now become a significant issue, especially when you see all the forward talent he's let walk away

 

[MMC]

Khudobin is not on the team anymore. Tokarski is our backup?

 

[anezthes]

Ritchie - Getzlaf - Perry
Cogliano - Kesler - Silfverberg
Garbutt - Rakell - Noesen
Theodore - Wagner - Montour

Fowler - Bieksa
Lindholm - Manson
Despres - Vatanen
Stoner

Gibson
Tokarski

Not sure what you guys are so worried about.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

Since RC will not use 4 forward lines to the extent BB did, technically we're not missing that many forwards.

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Going to give it another shot why not. Gonna pepper in some free agents, and make some typical Caryle style lines.

Ritchie-Getzlaf-Perry
Pirri-Kesler-Versteeg
Cogliano-Gaustad-Silfverberg
Garbutt-Wagner-M.Brown

Fowler-Vatanen
Lindholm-Manson
Theodore-Bieska
Stoner

Gibson
Tokarski

 

[Elvs]

Calm down, it's July 3. There's no way Noesen and Sgarbossa are just gonna be handed out roster spots without proving anything in camp. At this point even Corey Tropp should be ahead of them as he has proven more at the NHL level and can be a 4th line agitator. I can see him being the 13th/14th forward on opening night.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Do you guys think there is a chance with caryle that we use kesler line more offensively and maybe build a new shut down line with cheaper fa etc, something like

Getzlaf Perry Ritchie
Kesler silfverberg rakell



I mean I figure well sign a guy or 2 or get a top 6 winger in a trade.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Going to give it another shot why not. Gonna pepper in some free agents, and make some typical Caryle style lines.

Ritchie-Getzlaf-Perry
Pirri-Kesler-Versteeg
Cogliano-Gaustad-Silfverberg
Garbutt-Wagner-M.Brown

Fowler-Vatanen
Lindholm-Manson
Theodore-Bieska
Stoner
5
Gibson
Tokarski

Fowler + Vatanen

Please no.

 

[anezthes]

Ritchie - Getzlaf - Perry
Cogliano - Kesler - Silfverberg
Garbutt - Rakell - Noesen
Theodore - Wagner - Montour

Fowler - Bieksa
Lindholm - Manson
Despres - Vatanen
Stoner

Gibson
Tokarski

Not sure what you guys are so worried about.

Assuming we bridge Rakell at 2,5M and sign Lindholm to 5,5M, even this phoney lineup is over budget.

"Forwards" 42,565,000 (salary) / 39,652,500 (cap hit)
Ritchie 925,000 - Getzlaf 9,250,000 - Perry 10,000,000
Cogliano 3,100,000 - Kesler 7,875,000 - Silfverberg 3,000,000
Garbutt 1,000,000 - Rakell 2,500,000 - Noesen 832,500
Theodore 832,500 - Wagner 625,000 - Montour 925,000
Thompson 1,700,000

Defense 25,175,000 (salary) / 26,150,000 (cap hit)
Fowler 4,000,000 - Bieksa 4,000,000
Lindholm 5,500,000 - Manson 825,000
Despres 2,600,000 - Vatanen 5,000,000
Stoner 3,250,000

Goaltenders 2,100,000 (salary) / 2,900,000 (cap hit)
Gibson 1,500,000
Tokarski 600,000

Buyouts & Retentions 940,000 (salary) / 716,667 (cap hit)
Maroon 500,000
Fistric 450,000

Total Salary: 70,780,000
Cap Hit 69,419,167

 

[Trojans86]

Assuming we bridge Rakell at 2,5M and sign Lindholm to 5,5M, even this phoney lineup is over budget.

"Forwards" 42,565,000 (salary) / 39,652,500 (cap hit)
Ritchie 925,000 - Getzlaf 9,250,000 - Perry 10,000,000
Cogliano 3,100,000 - Kesler 7,875,000 - Silfverberg 3,000,000
Garbutt 1,000,000 - Rakell 2,500,000 - Noesen 832,500
Theodore 832,500 - Wagner 625,000 - Montour 925,000
Thompson 1,700,000

Defense 25,175,000 (salary) / 26,150,000 (cap hit)
Fowler 4,000,000 - Bieksa 4,000,000
Lindholm 5,500,000 - Manson 825,000
Despres 2,600,000 - Vatanen 5,000,000
Stoner 3,250,000

Goaltenders 2,100,000 (salary) / 2,900,000 (cap hit)
Gibson 1,500,000
Tokarski 600,000

Buyouts & Retentions 940,000 (salary) / 716,667 (cap hit)
Maroon 500,000
Fistric 450,000

Total Salary: 70,780,000
Cap Hit 69,419,167

That's why I think we have to move fowler and Stoner and get a cheap defenseman like Holzer. I love fowler but that frees up a good 7 million. If Montour lookz nhl ready halfway through the year then I wouldn't mind trading Depres for another forward.

 

[caliamad]

July 3rd. Now that most ufa are gone, Murray can start having some firm conversations with teams needing defenseman.

It's clear 2 defenseman have to go, I assume one will be stoner and the other will be fowler / depress unless lindholm is totally unreasonable.

I think we'll add a winger and a center in those deals and we'll be fine.

 

[xxreact9]

The more I look at this, I ask myself...can anyone name a worse forward roster in the NHL?

Vancouver perhaps. Calgary, Boston, Columbus?

We are without a doubt in the bottom-5.

Our defence isn't all that either - and the starting goalie is a young guy who is known for both ups and downs.

This upcoming season could get really ugly, really quickly.

Is the draft 2017 loaded, or did we pick a bad time to start sucking?



And worst of all.

Our three biggest money-pits are only getting older...

Columbus, Vancouver, Carolina, Toronto, Buffalo, Winnipeg, Nashville, Philly, Detroit, Arizona...... and a lot more.

Couldn't possibly be any more exaggeration in this thread. The team has the same D and goalie that was 1st in the NHL last season.

Their forward group isn't elite, but it's the farthest thing away from bottom 5 I can possibly express. They just need 1-2 top 6 wingers to shift the depth chart and every thing looks much brighter

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Columbus, Vancouver, Carolina, Toronto, Buffalo, Winnipeg, Nashville, Philly, Detroit, Arizona...... and a lot more.

Couldn't possibly be any more exaggeration in this thread. The team has the same D and goalie that was 1st in the NHL last season.

Their forward group isn't elite, but it's the farthest thing away from bottom 5 I can possibly express. They just need 1-2 top 6 wingers to shift the depth chart and every thing looks much brighter

A mere 1-2 top 6 wingers, without altering the "same D and goalie that was first in the NHL last season." Simple. Top 6 wingers are just littering the side of the road.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Did some thinking and maybe were reading the situation all wrong..

Getzlaf Vatanen Ritchie
Rakell Perry montour
Kesler silfverberg cogliano
Wagner noesen garbutt

Lindholm + Manson
Fowler + despres
Theodore + bieska

Gibson
Someone

 

[darkwingduck]

Maybe we will be the first team to run a 2 forward 3 dmen team.

Getz-perry
Fowler-bieksa, despres

Kesler-silverberg
Hampus-manson-montour

Ritchie-rakell
Theodore-stoner-vatanen

Cogliano-wagner-garbutt

 

[Paul4587]

I feel bad for Carlyle, he's going to be compared with BB yet the roster we will be icing at this stage isn't even close to as good as last years roster.

 

[Magnus the Duck]

Do you guys think there is a chance with caryle that we use kesler line more offensively and maybe build a new shut down line with cheaper fa etc, something like

Getzlaf Perry Ritchie
Kesler silfverberg rakell

I hope they do. I'd like another shutdown line, and let 2nd line try to bring more offense. But it needs good role players on the shutdown line.