Salary Cap: 2016-17 roster-building part V | Contract chart, cap info in post #1

[shureshot66]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Estimated 2016-17 salary ceiling: ..~74,000,000
Projected 2016-17 cap spending: .....73,807,499
Approximate LTIR cushion:.................3,750,000
Available cap space:.........................~3,942,501


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

29​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

28​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

28​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

29​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

27​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

36​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

RW​

|

30​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

27​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

21​

|

700,833​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

23​

|

640,000​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

28​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

21​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

32​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

27​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

22​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

24​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

31​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

22​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

36​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Retained salary.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

37​

|

1,125,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Jake Guentzel|

C​

|

21​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

|

734,167​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

|

21​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

21​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

23​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

|

26​

|

612,500​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

22​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Ethan Prow|

D​

|

23​

|

730,000​

|

730,000​

|

RFA​

Lukas Bengtsson|

D​

|

22​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

23​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

20​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

News and notes​

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

32​

|

1,100,000​

|Yes, The Rev is the Pens' highest-paid UFA this summer

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

39​

|

800,000​

|"i wish matt cullen was my dad....... sorry dad" —Asuna

Dan O'Donoghue|

LW​

|

25​

|

635,000​

|Empty jersey obtained for Marcantuoni; Group VI UFA

Niclas Andersen|

D​

|

27​

|

625,000​

| Signed with Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg (KHL)

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

28​

|

600,000​

|On his way out after already losing his job this year

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|Provided little than a warm body for the penalty kill

Dustin Jeffrey|

C​

|

28​

|

575,000​

| Signed with Lausanne HC (NLA)

Will O'Neill|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

|One of AHL's top scoring defensemen and power play QBs

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|Veteran depth on the blue line with some snarl

Kael Mouillierat|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|Agitator with a bit of scoring touch at lower level

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|Token minor-league goon

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

25​

|

3,900,000​

|Essentially UFA because a qualifying offer is too pricey

Tyler Biggs|

RW​

|

22​

|

894,167​

|Hard to imagine why Brian Burke isn't a GM any more

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

24​

|

800,000​

|An injury away from becoming M. Night Shyamalan villain

Matthias Plachta|

RW​

|

24​

|

743,000​

|Briefly lived in a barn owned by Shane Doan

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

22​

|

650,833​

|Scratched for majority of the season in WBS

James Melindy|

D​

|

22​

|

641,667​

|The other empty jersey obtained for Marcantuoni

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

23​

|

608,333​

|Has bounced around between WBS and Wheeling

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|Jan's kid still doesn't look like an NHL player

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

23​

|

575,000​

| Signed with HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

|

18​

|

Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

2 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

20​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

21​

|Maine (HEA)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

21​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

20​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

18​

|Des Moines (USHL)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

25​

|Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

21​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

21​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

20​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

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[billybudd]

Couple people were knocking Stamkos at the end of the last thread.

Few things about that

1. Stamkos isn't a perimeter player. He's less grimy now than he was before he destroyed his leg, but even though he's known for that OV circle shot, he probably gets half of his goals on deflections, chip shots from in tight or rebounds.

2. Stamkos will do as much or as little for you as the best playmaker on his line does for him. He's as pure a finisher as they come. He's the Aston Martin to James Neal's Camaro. He's not a cargo jet that you can expect to transport something from here to there.

That said, short of trading Malkin or Crosby, I can't envision any scenario in which he can be fit into the Pittsburgh Penguins salary structure. Even if you could make it work one year, the nature of him necessitates that you'll lose multiple people you probably need and otherwise wouldn't be losing a couple years down the line.

 

[mpp9]

This team could get very creative this offseason if that projected cap figure turns out to be correct. Bring in an overpriced forward who's a UFA within the next 2 years. Being able to take back alot of salary in a MAF and/or Kunitz trade. Overpay a free agent perhaps.

 

[T1K]

Stamkos wants to play center for the Maple Leafs

 

[Coach Travis]

I'm not going to pretend Stamkos isn't a great player for somebody but when you've already got Crosby & Malkin as your Centers it makes no sense. Rather spend $10M on 2 players.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Stamkos is only coming here if he wants to play here and can forgo some cash. So, not likely. That said, I'd always accept a player of his caliber here-- look at how Kessel's turned it on and there were similar critiques of him when he was traded to us.

But I wouldn't chase him, certainly.

 

[Sideline]

Stamkos is only coming here if he wants to play here and can forgo some cash. So, not likely. That said, I'd always accept a player of his caliber here-- look at how Kessel's turned it on and there were similar critiques of him when he was traded to us.

But I wouldn't chase him, certainly.

Exactly. If a guy like Stamkos would take 7x7 you find a way to make it work. In reality he's going to get 10x7 so that's not happening here.

 

[Empoleon8771]

From the last thread, I'm really intrigued by Hansen from Vancouver. He definitely fits the speed idea that the Pens want, he's very good defensively and has been producing like a top-6 winger for years (pace of 33 ES points/82 games since 10-11). Benning is a moron, so Hansen is definitely someone I could see being available. The big question is whether he plays LW, he's not much use for us if he's solely a RWer.

In terms of players who could potentially be available, I'm mainly interested in Hansen, B Pouliot, Miller, Kreider and Eakin (more speculation on my part, but I've seen Stars fans saying he could be moved to upgrade a position of need). If we pull off any of those 2 (Pouliot and Hansen seems like the easiest duo to bring in), we'd be set for 3 or so years. Kunitz having a very good playoffs (he has had 4 goals and 10 points in 13 games against Washington and Tampa Bay) probably gives him a nice boost in value too, so he'd probably be a viable trade chip.

 

[IcedCapp]

Couple people were knocking Stamkos at the end of the last thread.

Few things about that

1. Stamkos isn't a perimeter player. He's less grimy now than he was before he destroyed his leg, but even though he's known for that OV circle shot, he probably gets half of his goals on deflections, chip shots from in tight or rebounds.

2. Stamkos will do as much or as little for you as the best playmaker on his line does for him. He's as pure a finisher as they come. He's the Aston Martin to James Neal's Camaro. He's not a cargo jet that you can expect to transport something from here to there.

That said, short of trading Malkin or Crosby, I can't envision any scenario in which he can be fit into the Pittsburgh Penguins salary structure. Even if you could make it work one year, the nature of him necessitates that you'll lose multiple people you probably need and otherwise wouldn't be losing a couple years down the line.

I don't realllly agree with your assessment of Stamkos, and I certainly don't believe he's an elite superstar, but even if I did agree, to me, I'd still rather have Kessel at 6.8 than Stamkos at... Anything over 6.8.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I don't realllly agree with your assessment of Stamkos, and I certainly don't believe he's an elite superstar, but even if I did agree, to me, I'd still rather have Kessel at 6.8 than Stamkos at... Anything over 6.8.

Sure, I think Kessel's super underrated too, and you were pretty dead-on about Hot Dog Time (aka Playoff) Phil earlier in the year.

But, as a thought experiment, say you could get Stammer for 6. Would you? I'd take a flyer on him there. But this is all dependent on Stamkos wanting to play here and willing to do what it takes to fit into our cap structure with a reasonable hit, which are two completely unlikely conditions.

 

[cajal]

I think Stamkos would be a luxury for a team like the Pens who need other positions filled.

He'll probably get 10mil from the leafs or islanders, and I'm sure he'll do well there. The dude doesn't strike me as a player you build around, but he's very talented.

 

[888 98 twins]

Wasn't Stamkos pretty adamant that he did not want to play wing earlier in the year? That kinda makes him a non-starter for us, doesn't it?

 

[IcedCapp]

Sure, I think Kessel's super underrated too, and you were pretty dead-on about Hot Dog Time (aka Playoff) Phil earlier in the year.

But, as a thought experiment, say you could get Stammer for 6. Would you?

Yeah my sure. He immediately fixes their PP and with the way the Pens' contracts are set up, it really doesn't put them at risk of losing anyone.

So if he said, "I wanna go to the Heat to play with LeSid and DeGeno," you do it (he has to be okay with wing, though)

 

[IcedCapp]

Hell, if it meant they'd commit to dumping Kunitz, I'd probably take him at 7, 7.5

No clue who plays LW, though

 

[billybudd]

I don't realllly agree with your assessment of Stamkos, and I certainly don't believe he's an elite superstar, but even if I did agree, to me, I'd still rather have Kessel at 6.8 than Stamkos at... Anything over 6.8.

Stamkos is irrelevant to us, anyway, so it's probably a moot point. Signing Stamkos likely prices us out of Brian Dumoulin and a Daley replacement (that can play on the level that Daley has played for us) in the medium term. If Sprong or any of those guys from Wilkes-Barre has a 20 goal season, you can probably kiss their ***** goodbye, too.

The Penguins are just not in a position to sign a $10 million player to a 7 year contract, no matter what he does or doesn't do.

 

[cassius]

I see Stamkos going to to the Leafs for something absurd like 10 years, $100M

 

[Farnham4top6]

Wasn't Stamkos pretty adamant that he did not want to play wing earlier in the year? That kinda makes him a non-starter for us, doesn't it?

For the right price he could some real damage with Kessel. But he would most likely never sign for that.

 

[Malkinstheman]

I see Stamkos going to to the Leafs for something absurd like 10 years, $100M

Well the max for any team other than Tampa is 7 years. So that wont work

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I see Stamkos going to to the Leafs for something absurd like 10 years, $100M

I predict cassius will be wrong, and I intend on bragging about predicting the obvious when it happens in every thread I post in.

 

[Riptide]

I think it's pretty likely Kunitz gers moved in a Perron-like deal. Kunitz for Pouliot still makes a lot of sense imo.

For who though? Other than Minny (Pomi/Vanek/etc) or LA in a cap dump (Brown/Gaby) who do you really see trading someone that is better than Kunitz, for Kunitz.

Really, I think our window to move Kunitz in a hockey trade was last summer. Rutherford wanted to change things up and there were several other teams out there looking to do the same. When I look around now, I don't see the same options available. Teams that would probably shake something up don't have the type of player we'd want in return (aka not Brown) or they have their own cap issues and are probably not going to be adding Kunitz's 3.85m cap hit, or Kunitz's NTC would likely block a move there.

Honestly, the only possible location I see is ANA, DAL or DET. And only if they're looking to "upgrade" from a young guy (prospect) and Rutherford is okay moving him for futures (which I highly doubt).

And again, you're pretending that the Rangers aren't getting something that would be making them better.

Under normal circumstances, I could see where you're coming from. But Miller is an extremely viable target for an offer sheet and I don't see many teams offering something better than Pouliot for him (most offers would be draft picks). They could easily take a worse offer with picks and move him out of the division, that's very possible. I just think you're really underestimating how much of a need Pouliot fills for them and how they probably won't be getting many offers like him for Miller.

Why are they not just signing Miller? NYR doesn't have nearly the cap issues people say they do. They need to sign Kreider, Hayes and Miller. Yandle and Staal, but I see both walking. And they have the cap room to sign those 3. If they try to sign Yandle, then things would probably be pretty tight. However unless we're back to talking about Nash, I don't see anything happening there. They're not going to want to take on salary (they can't afford to), and they need that offensive skill up front.

 

[Riptide]

No. MAF easily brings back a first rounder +. Easily.

Value wise? Of course he's worth that. But no team that needs him will shell out a 1st for him. I mean think about it for a minute. DAL doesn't have a 2nd and their 1st is 24+ (can't remember). CGY isn't going to move 6th OVA for MAF. It's just not going to happen. Now who else needs a goalie so bad they'd move a 1st for him? Yeah that's what I thought.

And even if they would, I'd probably be going after their prospect pool instead. Would much rather have someone who was drafted 2-3 years ago and is basically NHL ready (or damn close to it) vs someone who won't be here for 3+ years.

 

[Riptide]

If he doesn't fit our team speed scheme, then he better fit some kind of niche we're missing. He won't play on our top PP unit, where he gets alot of his production, because he's a lefty and plays net front. He'd need to be pretty damn productive at ES to justify nearly 6 mil over the rest of 87/71's good years.

Eriksson had 42 ES points last year in 82 games. I think you could find a guy to give you nearly that type of ES production for cheaper.

Do you know where he ranked for ES points last year? #30th among forwards. Saad, Skinner and Neal right ahead of him and Monahan, Zuccarello, Stone, Krejci and Kessel right below him. My point is 42 ES points is very damn good - and those guys usually get paid. So outside of a trade, I don't see you getting someone like that who's not going to be expensive. Personally, if his ask is reasonable (AAV/term) then I'm interested. And I don't give a **** if he's not "fast". We do not need every single player to be super speedy. We have enough speed in our lineup that adding a skilled guy who's not slow will not be an issue.

As for others who we might want to look at:

Atkinson might be a valuable pick up (41 ES pts), but I'm not sure what we'd offer CBJ for him.

The only UFA that might fit what we're looking for (and won't cost a huge premium) is McGinn... and odds are he still costs close to 4m.

 

[Riptide]

Wasn't Stamkos pretty adamant that he did not want to play wing earlier in the year? That kinda makes him a non-starter for us, doesn't it?

That's basically it. Fun to talk about, but unless he suddenly changes his tune, not all that realistic.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

New rumor that Alex Chiasson may be available. And looking at the Senators' roster, is Clark MacArthur someone that could be of interest? I know in the past some wanted him on the Pens. But how is that recent concussion going to affect his play? I don't think he's been cleared yet.

 

[Riptide]

New rumor that Alex Chiasson may be available. And looking at the Senators' roster, is Clark MacArthur someone that could be of interest? I know in the past some wanted him on the Pens. But how is that recent concussion going to affect his play? I don't think he's been cleared yet.

MacA just turned 31 and has 4 years left at 4.65m. I'm no in a huge rush to jump on that. And considering that OTT needs to get better up front, I'm not really sure what we'd offer them. Will pass on Chiasson. I wanted him 2 years ago, but he hasn't developed as we'd hoped he would.