Salary Cap: 2016-17 roster-building part II

[shureshot66]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Estimated 2016-17 salary ceiling: ..~74,000,000
Projected 2016-17 cap spending: ....73,807,499
Approximate LTIR cushion:...............3,750,000
Available cap space:.......................~3,942,501


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

29​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

28​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

28​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

29​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

UFA​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

27​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

36​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

RW​

|

30​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

27​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

21​

|

700,833​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

23​

|

640,000​

|

640,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

24​

|

625,000​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

28​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

21​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

|

4,083,333​

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

32​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

27​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

UFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

22​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

24​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

31​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

21​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

36​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Retained salary.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

.2018-19​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

37​

|

1,125,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Teddy Blueger|

C​

|

21​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

21​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

23​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Carter Rowney|

RW​

|

26​

|

612,500​

|

612,500​

|

UFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

22​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Ethan Prow|

D​

|

23​

|

730,000​

|

730,000​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

|

2018-19​

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

23​

|

705,000​

|

705,000​

|

RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

20​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

News and notes​

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

32​

|

1,100,000​

|Yes, The Rev is the Pens' highest-paid UFA this summer

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

39​

|

800,000​

|"i wish matt cullen was my dad....... sorry dad" —Asuna

Dan O'Donoghue|

LW​

|

25​

|

635,000​

|Empty jersey obtained for Marcantuoni; Group VI UFA

Niclas Andersen|

D​

|

27​

|

625,000​

|Figures to head elsewhere in search of an NHL job

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

28​

|

600,000​

|On his way out after already losing his job this year

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|Provided little than a warm body for the penalty kill

Dustin Jeffrey|

C​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|AHL star doesn't provide much upside on an NHL roster

Will O'Neill|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

|One of AHL's top scoring defensemen and power play QBs

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

30​

|

575,000​

|Veteran depth on the blue line with some snarl

Kael Mouillierat|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|Agitator with a bit of scoring touch at lower level

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|Token minor-league goon

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

Player........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

News and notes​

Justin Schultz|

D​

|

25​

|

3,900,000​

|Essentially UFA because a qualifying offer is too pricey

Tyler Biggs|

RW​

|

22​

|

894,167​

|Hard to imagine why Brian Burke isn't a GM any more

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

24​

|

800,000​

|An injury away from becoming M. Night Shyamalan villain

Matthias Plachta|

RW​

|

24​

|

743,000​

|Briefly lived in a barn owned by Shane Doan

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

22​

|

650,833​

|Scratched for majority of the season in WBS

James Melindy|

D​

|

22​

|

641,667​

|The other empty jersey obtained for Marcantuoni

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

23​

|

608,333​

|Has bounced around between WBS and Wheeling

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|Jan's kid still doesn't look like an NHL player

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|Season cut short by shoulder surgery

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

|

18​

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Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

2 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

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Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

20​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

20​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

21​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

21​

|Wilkes-Barre/Scranton (AHL)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

21​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

21​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

20​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

18​

|Des Moines (USHL)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

25​

|Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

21​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

21​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

20​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

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[Empoleon8771]

I was bored, so I wanted to get the final numbers for next year. With absolutely no moves, the Pens right now have $71.1 million committed to 13 forwards, 6 D and 2 goalies with Bennett, Cullen, Zatkoff, Lovejoy and Schultz being free agents. Re-signing Cullen at around the same that he's at now and Schultz for around $1.75 million (seems like a fair guess), demoting Sundqvist to WBS and putting one of Bennett or Sprong on the 3rd line (assume equal salary) adds an extra $2.5 million or so to that. Let's just say we'll be at $73.6 million with 14 forwards and 7 D.

With this hypothetical, we wouldn't have much flexibility with trading Kunitz. I think in order for us to get a noticeable upgrade on Kunitz, we're going to have to trade one of Bonino or Fehr. Trading Kunitz and Bonino/Fehr and recalling Sundqvist would give us 14 forwards again, but with the ability to add up to a $5.25 million winger from Kunitz and Bonino (or $100k more with trading Fehr). Without trading either of those 2, we're basically stuck with adding a $4.25 million winger with trading Kunitz. Not exactly much space to play with there.

 

[shureshot66]

I put the estimates up at the top, but obviously players like Sheary and Sundqvist aren't locks for the roster.

The $74M ceiling being referenced by news outlets assumes that the NHLPA once again approves using the escalator. Otherwise it's likely to be right around the same number as this past season ($71.4M).

 

[66-30-33]

I still think Pens should bring in Helm if he's going to hit UFA. Other then that, not much else we can do. Bones/Fehr/Kunitz gone for cap space, Lovejoy walks, Cole stays...for now. Keep bringing in guys who can help with what we are building, trade those who do not fit this. Eventually we will have the perfect roster we want, keep our picks and turn them into speedy goal scoring wingers, playmaking wingers, speedy offensive dmen

 

[#1GuinFan]

That unsigned prospect list is ugly at best (when you take out guentzel)

 

[Ogrezilla]

what position would you see Helm in here? And who would he be replacing?

 

[Gurglesons]

what position would you see Helm in here? And who would he be replacing?

It'd help us if we moved one of Bonino or Fehr.

Just don't really think he brings much more than they do and would probably be over 2 mil.

 

[Ogrezilla]

It'd help us if we moved one of Bonino or Fehr.

Just don't really think he brings much more than they do and would probably be over 2 mil.

Yeah. I'd rather re-sign Cullen than sign Helm.

 

[WayneSid9987]

what position would you see Helm in here? And who would he be replacing?

It depends.
Is Kunitz moved?
Did Cullen re-sign?
Is Bones or Fehr moved?
Is Beau healthy and playing LW in the top 6?

Depending on all of the above, he could be anywhere from 3/4C to LW on any line.

 

[Ogrezilla]

It depends.
Is Kunitz moved?
Did Cullen re-sign?
Is Bones or Fehr moved?
Is Beau healthy and playing LW in the top 6?

Depending on all of the above, he could be anywhere from 3/4C to LW on any line.

The only reason to bring in a bottom 6 C is that we trade someone AND we can't re-sign Cullen. And even then, we'd still have two bottom 6 Cs, with the guy we sign pushing Fehr or Sundqvist to wing or out of the line-up.

And no to Helm as a LW. We don't need bottom 6 wings, and he's not good enough for top 6 LW.

 

[JackFr]

Helm makes the most sense as a Bonino replacement, but I think he'll make too much. The speed of Hagelin - Helm - Kessel would be out of this world, but I'm not sure if it's a good fit otherwise.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Helm makes the most sense as a Bonino replacement, but I think he'll make too much. The speed of Hagelin - Helm - Kessel would be out of this world, but I'm not sure if it's a good fit otherwise.

We really can't get an even more expensive 3rd line center if we're already playing Hags and Kessel on the third line.

And imo, if we move Bones or Fehr, it will be because we sign Cullen and are happy with Sundqvist. I don't think adding an outside bottom 6 player will really even be on our radar.

 

[WayneSid9987]

Kunitz(3.85)-Sid(8.7)-Horny(4.25)
Hags(4)-Geno(9.5)-Phil(6.8)
Kuhn(625k)-Bones(1.9)-Rust(640k)
Wilson(625k)-Fehr(2)-Sheary(667.5k)


Maatta(4.083)-Letang(7.25)
Dumo(800k)-Daley(3.3)
Pouliot(863.333k)-Cole(2.1)

MAF(5.75)
Murray(628.333k)
*ScuderiRetention(1.125)

Theres bare bones = 69.457M
Addition Estimates = Beau(7-800k) + Schultz(1.5-2) + Cullen(1) = 72.657M-73.257M
LTIR Cap Relief = close to 3.75M = 68.907M-69.507M
74M Cap would give us 4.493M-5.093M to spend without any cash going out. Add another 1M if Cullen signs elsewhere.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Kunitz(3.85)-Sid(8.7)-Horny(4.25)
Hags(4)-Geno(9.5)-Phil(6.8)
Kuhn(625k)-Bones(1.9)-Rust(640k)
Wilson(625k)-Fehr(2)-Sheary(667.5k)


Maatta(4.083)-Letang(7.25)
Dumo(800k)-Daley(3.3)
Pouliot(863.333k)-Cole(2.1)

MAF(5.75)
Murray(628.333k)
*ScuderiRetention(1.125)

Theres bare bones = 69.457M
Addition Estimates = Beau(7-800k) + Schultz(1.5-2) + Cullen(1) = 72.657M-73.257M
LTIR Cap Relief = close to 3.75M = 68.907M-69.507M
74M Cap would give us 4.493M-5.093M to spend without any cash going out. Add another 1M if Cullen signs elsewhere.

You already didn't include Dupuis in your original calculation, you can't subtract him an additional time.

 

[Riptide]

It'd help us if we moved one of Bonino or Fehr.

Just don't really think he brings much more than they do and would probably be over 2 mil.

We would have to move both. Honestly, see little reason why we would be all that interested in him considering what he'll get as a UFA.

 

[Hockeygod66]

Does anyone know a lot of about Vrbata? He seems like the perfect type of sniper we could use for either Crosby or Malkin. I guess he's similar to Jokinen/sykora. As far as the Penguins price range is going to be he might be the best fit.

He did hit 30 goals two season ago and did it once before but he's always going to be 35 this summer.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Kunitz and Cole gotta go. For cap reasons. Keep Cullen around, let Lovejoy walk.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Does anyone know a lot of about Vrbata? He seems like the perfect type of sniper we could use for either Crosby or Malkin. I guess he's similar to Jokinen/sykora. As far as the Penguins price range is going to be he might be the best fit.

He did hit 30 goals two season ago and did it once before but he's always going to be 35 this summer.

Hes been terrible this year and hes another soft player. Not someone the Pens should be targeting.

 

[cygnus47]

Kunitz and Cole gotta go. For cap reasons. Keep Cullen around, let Lovejoy walk.

Word. With the way Cole is going since the coaching change, we might even get something in return for him too.

 

[mpp9]

I'm in favor of keeping Cole around. He can play LD and RD. Pretty low maintenance. Physical presence while still fitting in with the type of game we want to play.

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Daley
DP-Cole
Schultz

If Schultz sticks around he probably plays ahead of DP. And if that's the case, we have a natural RHD to play with Dumoulin longterm and a trade candidate in DP to move for an upgrade on LW.

Plus, I think Cole's presence makes Lovejoy sticking around less likely. Ill take Cole all day over Lovejoy.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Keep Cole unless we need the cap space. And probably move Bones before Cole. He'll bring more back, and we can replace him from within.

 

[The Old Master]

our biggest need is a big, nasty, smooth skating, defense man that can also make that nice first pass......every team must have at least two or three and they should be very easy to get because Anaheim got one for lovejoy

fire the all!

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

I want to take a second and give credit where it due. Yes since Malkin was hurt Bonino has done a good job filling in and Kessel has taken off. But that is not what is making the real difference. The bottom six since Malkin went down (12 games)...

Cullen - 4g, 5a
Kunhackl - 3g, 7a
Rust (9) - 1g, 3a
Fehr - 3g, 4a
Sheary - 3g, 1a
Bennett (7)- 1g, 1a
Sundqvist (5) - 1g, 1a

Total 16 goals and 22 assists in 12 team games. When your getting that kind of production from your bottom 6 your gonna win a lot of games. For reference, over an 82 game schedule that would equal 109 goals and 150 assists, an average of 18-25-43 plus change per player.

 

[T1K]

Does anyone know a lot of about Vrbata? He seems like the perfect type of sniper we could use for either Crosby or Malkin. I guess he's similar to Jokinen/sykora. As far as the Penguins price range is going to be he might be the best fit.

He did hit 30 goals two season ago and did it once before but he's always going to be 35 this summer.

No mental fortitude

 

[Riptide]

I want to take a second and give credit where it due. Yes since Malkin was hurt Bonino has done a good job filling in and Kessel has taken off. But that is not what is making the real difference. The bottom six since Malkin went down (12 games)...

Cullen - 4g, 5a
Kunhackl - 3g, 7a
Rust (9) - 1g, 3a
Fehr - 3g, 4a
Sheary - 3g, 1a
Bennett (7)- 1g, 1a
Sundqvist (5) - 1g, 1a

Total 16 goals and 22 assists in 12 team games. When your getting that kind of production from your bottom 6 your gonna win a lot of games. For reference, over an 82 game schedule that would equal 109 goals and 150 assists, an average of 18-25-43 plus change per player.

Thanks for pointing that out. I knew our bottom 6 was doing well - but I didn't think they'd done that well.