Line Combos: 2016-17 Lineup Discussion, Playoff Edition - Who's Left?

[Ducks DVM]

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[The Midnight Burrito]

I owe BB an apology if this "belief" is true:

No one has ever confirmed it, but the belief last year was Bruce Boudreau wanted to start Frederik Andersen right away in last year’s playoff series versus Nashville, only to be overruled. Gibson got the first two games.

There's also this about Gibson's d-bag persona being a big misunderstanding:

Maharaj on Gibson: “He’s maybe the most misunderstood goaltender I've ever encountered. Reminds me of Ray Emery. What makes them great goaltenders doesn't always translate to people. John comes across as aloof or standoffish, but he’s got a wicked sense of humour. He’s engaging, hilariously funny. People misread him.”

I respect Sudarshan Maharaj and I'd be willing to buy into that, but then I read quotes from Gibson like:

“I’ve got[ten] a lot of questions [about the long layoff],” he said. “It’s like I didn’t forget how to play, right? Just had an injury. Came back a little too soon the first time. Now everything’s pretty good.”

Asked if he feels there’s a competition between him and Bernier for the Game 1 start, Gibson said, “You’d have to ask Randy what he thinks. I’ve been here for the whole year. I got hurt for a month.”

and I think, nah. D-bag.

 

[Vipers31]

It's pretty hard to believe that Murray - and I don't think there's anyone else who would be in the position to do so - would overrule BB on such a clear-cut coaching decision. Who knows, though.

Regarding Gibson's persona, he definitely comes across a bit d-baggy. I'm not sure I'd say that's "misreading" him, because I don't think many people would be lead to the idea that that's the only side to him. Not everyone is a Teemu-type where it seems like every stranger is a friend he just hadn't met yet, some people are hilarious and friendly, but only after you break down an initial barrier. That definitely seems to be there with Gibson, but that's ok.

 

[Crosbysux]

Ritchie appears scratched for tonight's game. Think it's a good thing. Looks worn down and we need him ready for playoffs. Wouldn't be surprised if he's scratched VS LA either. Tell him it's a brake to make sure he brings it in playoffs.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

It's pretty hard to believe that Murray - and I don't think there's anyone else who would be in the position to do so - would overrule BB on such a clear-cut coaching decision. Who knows, though.

His reputation is hands-off lineup decisions. And Friedman doesn't say who supposedly overruled it. Maybe it was medical staff, Freddy was recently back from injury. Very little content in that update, but I wanted to acknowledge it since I've been pretty savage to BB about it.

 

[Vipers31]

His reputation is hands-off lineup decisions. And Friedman doesn't say who supposedly overruled it. Maybe it was medical staff, Freddy was recently back from injury. Very little content in that update, but I wanted to acknowledge it since I've been pretty savage to BB about it.

Ah, right, I didn't think of that option. That would make a fair degree of sense.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

His reputation is hands-off lineup decisions. And Friedman doesn't say who supposedly overruled it. Maybe it was medical staff, Freddy was recently back from injury. Very little content in that update, but I wanted to acknowledge it since I've been pretty savage to BB about it.

I agree we will never know, but if it was the medical staff, wouldn't that rule Freddie out of even dressing and backing up? If it were concussion related (which I believe it was), I don't know how he could even be allowed to dress. And if it were anything else, I can't believe the medical staff would have the final say on it.

 

[DonDa]

Ritchie will have a hearing today at the NHL Player Safety due to the Rozsival case. This is a joke...

 

[dracom]

I owe BB an apology if this "belief" is true:



There's also this about Gibson's d-bag persona being a big misunderstanding:


I respect Sudarshan Maharaj and I'd be willing to buy into that, but then I read quotes from Gibson like:



and I think, nah. D-bag.

I don't see how anything he said makes him sound like a D-bag. He's just more candid than most.

 

[Vipers31]

Ritchie will have a hearing today at the NHL Player Safety due to the Rozsival case. This is a joke...

To be honest, I don't think it is. SJ's Haley basically did the same thing a week or so ago (while answering for a hit on himself rather than a teammate) and it got him a game. Realistically, Ritchie deserves a game, as well. It wasn't a super-cheap play on Perry; I understand why Ritchie did it and like that he wanted to send that message, but it's not proportional to a very standard offense that had already been called.

Obviously, if we're measuring it by the non-hearing for Giordano, most hearings that take place are a joke. But I think it's more reasonable saying the Giordano decision was a joke, while this one falls in line with what is out there.

 

[DonDa]

To be honest, I don't think it is. SJ's Haley basically did the same thing a week or so ago (while answering for a hit on himself rather than a teammate) and it got him a game. Realistically, Ritchie deserves a game, as well. It wasn't a super-cheap play on Perry; I understand why Ritchie did it and like that he wanted to send that message, but it's not proportional to a very standard offense that had already been called.

Obviously, if we're measuring it by the non-hearing for Giordano, most hearings that take place are a joke. But I think it's more reasonable saying the Giordano decision was a joke, while this one falls in line with what is out there.

You are right. It was a dump and unnecessary move by Ritchie, he deserves a game. (I hope it will be only one game).

But it's so annoying when your team is always suffering when the league should judge. Especially after Giordano's "clean" knee-to-knee hit.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

I don't see how anything he said makes him sound like a D-bag. He's just more candid than most.

Its not that he has a dbag personality, its just hes cocky about himself and what he thinks he will be able to accomplish.. Kinda like Drew Doughty..

 

[Vipers31]

You are right. It was a dump and unnecessary move by Ritchie, he deserves a game. (I hope it will be only one game).

If it's more than that, you bet I'll be outraged, as well. That would indeed be a complete joke after the Haley decision. It should be lighter, if anything, but I don't know if they're doing hearings for fines.

But it's so annoying when your team is always suffering when the league should judge. Especially after Giordano's "clean" knee-to-knee hit.

It definitely is annoying to no end. The injustice over the Giordano case will definitely stick with us for a while. Hopefully the guys on the ice can channel it into something positive, like they did out on the ice that night, for the most part.

 

[Crosbysux]

To be honest, I don't think it is. SJ's Haley basically did the same thing a week or so ago (while answering for a hit on himself rather than a teammate) and it got him a game. Realistically, Ritchie deserves a game, as well. It wasn't a super-cheap play on Perry; I understand why Ritchie did it and like that he wanted to send that message, but it's not proportional to a very standard offense that had already been called.

Obviously, if we're measuring it by the non-hearing for Giordano, most hearings that take place are a joke. But I think it's more reasonable saying the Giordano decision was a joke, while this one falls in line with what is out there.

I agree on both accounts. Ritchie thought Rozsival would drop the gloves, but didn't. He was definitely overzealous and it will likely cost him at least 1 game. Thought the same thing when I saw it happen last night, so I wasn't surprised when I saw the notice he was having a hearing... Still can't get over how Giordano didn't receive a hearing on Fowler though. Boggles the mind when Giordano would have been suspended indefinitely if it was McJesus or Crybaby on the receiving end of the hit.

 

[Vipers31]

I agree on both accounts. Ritchie thought Rozsival would drop the gloves, but didn't. He was definitely overzealous and it will likely cost him at least 1 game. Thought the same thing when I saw it happen last night, so I wasn't surprised when I saw the notice he was having a hearing... Still can't get over how Giordano didn't receive a hearing on Fowler though. Boggles the mind when Giordano would have been suspended indefinitely if it was McJesus or Crybaby on the receiving end of the hit.

It probably would have sufficed if his name hadn't been "Good Guy Gio" or if he hadn't played for "We're being treated better for no reason after complaining to the league about reffing Calgary".

 

[Ducksforcup]

I think Ritchie needs to figure out what type of player he wants to be. Right now, I don't think even he knows the answer to that question.

Wouldn't mind giving him a bit more seasoning in the AHL to re-find his game (although it's probably too late for that at least this year).

And as someone said earlier, the Ritchie punch was very similar to the Haley punch. I say he gets (and deservedly so IMO) a game or two in the sin bin.

 

[KelVarnsen]

Ritchie is a 21 year old kid who scored 14 goals and almost 30 points this year. He has made great strides this year. No way he is going to the AHL anytime soon.

He has had some ups and downs this year but I would call this year an absolute success for him.

 

[Ducksforcup]

Ritchie is a 21 year old kid who scored 14 goals and almost 30 points this year. He has made great strides this year. No way he is going to the AHL anytime soon.

He has had some ups and downs this year but I would call this year an absolute success for him.

No doubt that's true, but he just looks like a lost player right now.

What is his role on this team right now? I certainly couldn't tell you.

 

[snarktacular]

I agree on both accounts. Ritchie thought Rozsival would drop the gloves, but didn't. He was definitely overzealous and it will likely cost him at least 1 game. Thought the same thing when I saw it happen last night, so I wasn't surprised when I saw the notice he was having a hearing... Still can't get over how Giordano didn't receive a hearing on Fowler though. Boggles the mind when Giordano would have been suspended indefinitely if it was McJesus or Crybaby on the receiving end of the hit.

You mean Sidney Criesby?

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I could care less how Gibson comes off as long as he stops pucks and is not a problem in the lockerroom. Not everyone is a Fowler or Cogs

 

[Arthuros]

How do defencemen get credited with faceoff wins on NHL.com? Lindholm is currently 100%.

 

[The Duck Knight]

How do defencemen get credited with faceoff wins on NHL.com? Lindholm is currently 100%.

Center gets thrown out of the dot in OT. It was either the Jets or Oilers game last week I remember Lindholm taking a faceoff in OT.

 

[Arthuros]

Center gets thrown out of the dot in OT. It was either the Jets or Oilers game last week I remember Lindholm taking a faceoff in OT.

I didn't think that a defenceman taking the draw was possible. I always thought you had to swap the winger in instead.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I didn't think that a defenceman taking the draw was possible. I always thought you had to swap the winger in instead.

Maybe it was a 5-on-3 situation where there's a centerman and two defensemen on the ice on the PK. The center gets kicked out and one of the defensemen needed to step in.

 

[Arthuros]

Maybe it was a 5-on-3 situation where there's a centerman and two defensemen on the ice on the PK. The center gets kicked out and one of the defensemen needed to step in.

Huh.

Lindholm for Selke?