Prospect Info: 2015 Annual Prospect Poll #8

[The Midnight Burrito]

Last Poll: Kerdiles whins by a whisker. Who's whnext?


Each poll will be open for 48 hours. If it's not close after 24 hours, I'll call it. If it is, it'll go the full 48. In the event of a tie after 48 hours, a 24-hour runoff will be held. The winner will get the open spot; the loser will go back into the pool, not get the next-lowest rank. The poll will go up to #25. Players are in the poll on the basis of HF's prospect criteria. Essentially, skaters with less than 65 games before the season of their 24th birthday, or goalies with less than 45 games before the season of their 24th birthday, are considered prospects. There are some nuances with respect to older-signed players, which I believe only applies to Matt Bailey this year.

Vote on players using whatever criteria you like. This isn't the readiness poll or the talent poll or the most-likely-to-be-best poll, it's just a survey of who we as Duck fans like.


Prior years results:
2004-05 Lockout II Edition
2010 Edition
2011 Edition
2012 Edition
2013 Lockout III Edition
2014 Edition
(if anyone can find other years, let me know and I'll add them)

year | rank | Prospect | year | rank | Prospect | year | rank | Prospect | change | year | rank | Prospect | change | year | rank | Prospect | change | year | rank | prospect | change 2005 | 1 | Getzlaf | 2010 | 1 | Sbisa | 2011 | 1 | Etem | +5 | 2012 | 1 | Palmieri | +2 | 2013 | 1 | Gibson | +6 | 2014 | 1 | Gibson |0
| 2 | Bryzgalov || 2 | Fowler || 2 | Holland | +2 || 2 | Vatanen | +2 || 2 | Lindholm | +3 || 2 | Vatanen | +5
| 3 | Perry || 3 | Gardiner || 3 | Palmieri | +2 || 3 | Etem | -2 || 3 | Silfverberg |n/a|| 3 | Karlsson | +7
| 4 | Smid || 4 | Holland || 4 | Vatanen | +3 || 4 | Holland | -2 || 4 | Etem | -1 || 4 | Ritchie |n/a
| 5 | Holmqvist || 5 | Palmieri || 5 | REDACTED | +11 || 5 | Lindholm |n/a|| 5 | Rakell | +3 || 5 | Andersen | +7
| 6 | Brent || 6 | Etem || 6 | DSP | +7 || 6 | DSP |0|| 6 | Holland | -2 || 6 | Rakell | -1
| 7 | Kunitz || 7 | Vatanen || 7 | Gibson |n/a|| 7 | Gibson |0|| 7 | Vatanen | -5 || 7 | Kerdiles | +1
| 8 | Popovic || 8 | Clark || 8 | Rakell |n/a|| 8 | Rakell |0|| 8 | Kerdiles | +1 || 8 | Theodore | +3
| 9 | Smirnov || 9 | Mitera || 9 | Maroon |n/a|| 9 | Kerdiles |n/a|| 9 | Noesen |n/a|| 9 | Noesen |0
| 10 | S. O'Brien || 10 | Bonino || 10 | Bonino |0|| 10 | Karlsson | +4 || 10 | Karlsson |0|| 10 | Sorensen | +4
| 11 | Saunders || 11 | Deschamps || 11 | Clark | -3 || 11 | Andersen |n/a|| 11 | Theodore |n/a|| 11 | Pettersson |n/a
| 12 | Smith || 12 | McMillan || 12 | Friberg |n/a|| 12 | Wagner | +6 || 12 | Andersen | -1 || T12 | Manson | +13
| 13 | Glenncross || 13 | DSP || 13 | Deschamps | -2 || 13 | Friberg | -1 || 13 | Smith-Pelly | -7 || T12 | Montour |n/a
| 14 | Korsunov || 14 | Newton || 14 | Karlsson |n/a|| 14 | Clark | -3 || 14 | Sorensen |n/a|| 14 | Friberg | +5
| 15 | Konopka || 15 | Bobkov || 15 | Bobkov |0|| 15 | Welinski | +5 || 15 | Roy | +2 || 15 | Wagner | +2
| 16 | Martensson || 16 | REDACTED || 16 | Macenauer |n/a|| 16 | Maroon | -7 || 16 | Welinski | -1 || 16 | Roy | -1
| 17 | Foster || 17 | Pielmeier || 17 | Cramarossa |n/a|| 17 | Roy |n/a|| 17 | Wagner | -5 || 17 | Welinski | -1
| 18 | Penner || 18 | Sharp || 18 | Wagner |n/a|| 18 | Bobkov | -3 || 18 | Laganiere |n/a|| 18 | Laganiere |0
| 19 | Klubertanz || 19 | Heed || 19 | Schofield |n/a|| 19 | Lind | +2 || 19 | Friberg | -6 || 19 | Thompson | +1
| 20 | Parenteau || 20 | Manson || 20 | Welinski |n/a|| 20 | Cramarossa | -3 || 20 | Thompson |n/a|| 20 | Kase |n/a
| 21 | Perrault || 21 |N/A|| 21 | Lind |n/a|| 21 | A. O'Brien |n/a|| 21 | Sarault |n/a|| 21 | Bobkov | +2
| 22 |N/A|| 22 |N/A|| 22 | Newton | -8 || 22 | Heed | +3 || 22 | Cramarossa | -2 || 22 | Blacker |n/a
| 23 |N/A|| 23 |N/A|| 23 | Carle |n/a|| 23 | Caputi |n/a|| 23 | Bobkov | -5 || 23 | Megna |n/a
| 24 |N/A|| 24 |N/A|| 24 | Perlini |n/a|| 24 | Cooper |n/a|| 24 |N/A||| 24 | Besse |n/a
| 25 |N/A|| 25 |N/A|| 25 | Heed | -6 || 25 | Manson |NR|| 25 |N/A||| 25 | Aaltonen |n/a

Notable Graduates/Departures:
Aaltonen
Andersen
Blacker
Bobkov
Karlsson
Laganiere
Rakell
Vatanen

This year's results:

Rank | Prospect | yearly change | overall change
1| Gibson |n/a| +7 (since 2011)
2| Theodore | +6 | +9 (since 2013)
3| Ritchie | +1 | +1 (since 2014)
4| Montour | +8 | +8 (since 2014)
5| Manson | +7 | +15 (since forever)
6| Noesen | +3 | +3 (since 2013)
7| Kerdiles |n/a| +2 (since 2012)

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[Ducks Nation*]

Larsson
Nattinen
Pettersson

in that order are my next 3.

 

[ShadowDuck]

This one should go to Larsson very easily.

My next 2:
Pettersson
Friberg or Roy

 

[Getzmonster]

What's the skinny on Pettersson? (see what I did there!)

I see people are pretty high on him, but last I checked he was still quite the project, and didn't have the best season overseas. Am I misinformed or has he started to show something?

 

[Ducks Nation*]

This one should go to Larsson very easily.

My next 2:
Pettersson
Friberg or Roy

Nattinen is better than all of those. He was impressive and has size, big as Ritchie seems like he was everywhere before the puck got there, I think him and Terry will be huge steals

 

[mightyquack]

Larsson
Pettersson/Nattinen
Friberg/Kase/Roy

 

[AngelDuck]

Friberg for me. He's done quite well on some bad AHL teams as a 21 and 22 year old

 

[AngelDuck]

Nattinen is better than all of those. He was impressive and has size, big as Ritchie seems like he was everywhere before the puck got there, I think him and Terry will be huge steals

Nattinen is better than 3 guys who are way more proven and experienced because you were impressed by him at a 2 day prospect camp. Listen to yourself there. Friberg had 40 points in 58 AHL games despite being on a very poor offensive team that was without Noesen and Kerdiles for large chunks (also traded Karlsson). He was the best forward on that team basically.

Roy has scored over PPG in college for 3 straight seasons now.

But Nattinen is surely better because you say so

To this point Julius Nattinen hasn't shown a whole lot (not his fault - he's only 18) That can all change by about December of this year but to say he's definitely better than Friberg, Roy, and Pettersson is a stretch

 

[KaseMeOutside]

i havent voted for a forward since ritchie

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Nattinen is better than 3 guys who are way more proven and experienced because you were impressed by him at a 2 day prospect camp. Listen to yourself there. Friberg had 40 points in 58 AHL games despite being on a very poor offensive team that was without Noesen and Kerdiles for large chunks (also traded Karlsson). He was the best forward on that team basically.

Roy has scored over PPG in college for 3 straight seasons now.

But Nattinen is surely better because you say so

To this point Julius Nattinen hasn't shown a whole lot (not his fault - he's only 18) That can all change by about December of this year but to say he's definitely better than Friberg, Roy, and Pettersson is a stretch

Roy will get destroyed in the NHL, he is not as good as "Johnny Hockey" I doubt he will ever even play a game in a Ducks uniform to be honest wouldn't surprise me if he dipped.

Pettersson is a stick, he was on the ground more than he had the puck, and his numbers/demotions in his league thus far are no good.

Nattinen has impressive numbers and his size/hockey IQ is off the charts. I use a website that lets me watch games from everywhere I have actually seen him play quite a bit.

 

[Nurmagomedov]

Crap, forgot Wagner was still on the board, would have voted for him ahead of Noesen and Kerdiles. Voting him now.

 

[Getzholm]

Our new toys Larsson and Nattinen are my next two. I was bummed I didn't get to my computer to vote that last round. I would have tied it up for Larsson - can't on my phone for whatever reason :/

 

[Getzholm]

Crap, forgot Wagner was still on the board, would have voted for him ahead of Noesen and Kerdiles. Voting him now.

So in the end we were the deciding factors in why Larsson wasn't ahead of Kerdiles haha. Dang

 

[duxfan1101]

So in the end we were the deciding factors in why Larsson wasn't ahead of Kerdiles haha. Dang

I'm assuming it's because nobody really knows much about Larsson other than he's a 1st round pick and is Swedish

 

[Teemu Salami]

I'm assuming it's because nobody really knows much about Larsson other than he's a 1st round pick and is Swedish

Personally I picked Kerdiles before Noesen and Larsson because I was too excited about what he has done in college and with USA in the last few years to completely lose interest in him after one meh AHL season. As i remember Murray seemed high on him from quotes I read, too.


edit: I'll admit though wasn't over the top good on that USA squad, but he was still one of the more impressive players... Jack Eichel of course standing out. Nic led them in points, I think.1

 

[Ducks Nation*]

I am sure we can close this and start the next one.

 

[Getzholm]

I am sure we can close this and start the next one.

Agreed. Do they all have to go a day minimum?

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Agreed. Do they all have to go a day minimum?

They don't have to, strictly speaking. But it's a little time consuming to set up the post and the poll so I do it when I have time. I'll set up #9 this evening but it'll probably be late.

 

[Getzmonster]

They don't have to, strictly speaking. But it's a little time consuming to set up the post and the poll so I do it when I have time. I'll set up #9 this evening but it'll probably be late.

Your time is appreciated, I look forward to these polls each summer, the rankings don't mean much but the ensuing discussions offer some interesting insight.

Going with Friberg this time. I think he has the standard Anaheim middle six winger potential, and is pretty darn close to making the jump. Other newer draftees probably have more upside, but I just can't say for sure how much yet. Pettersson and Roy are guys I keep wanting to vote for, but I think a few others are safer bets at this point.

 

[AngelDuck]

Roy will get destroyed in the NHL, he is not as good as "Johnny Hockey" I doubt he will ever even play a game in a Ducks uniform to be honest wouldn't surprise me if he dipped.

Pettersson is a stick, he was on the ground more than he had the puck, and his numbers/demotions in his league thus far are no good.

Nattinen has impressive numbers and his size/hockey IQ is off the charts. I use a website that lets me watch games from everywhere I have actually seen him play quite a bit.

No **** he's not as good as Gaudreau. That's completely irrelevant though when you consider that Gaudreau is one of the most talented players in the league and just an exceptional player. Being concerned about him leaving is valid but I haven't seen anything that convinces me he's gone yet

Pettersson being a stick has little to do with anything. He needs to gain weight but he just recently turned 19 so there's no reason why he can't add 15 pounds in the next 3 years. His ability with the puck has been very impressive and his decision making is sound.

Nattinen has impressive numbers? 3 points in 9 sm-liiga games last year. I'm not sure we can put much weight into his U18 numbers.

I'm not saying you're for sure wrong I just find your confidence in this kid to be a tad over-zealous. I hope you're right

 

[Opak]

No **** he's not as good as Gaudreau. That's completely irrelevant though when you consider that Gaudreau is one of the most talented players in the league and just an exceptional player. Being concerned about him leaving is valid but I haven't seen anything that convinces me he's gone yet

Pettersson being a stick has little to do with anything. He needs to gain weight but he just recently turned 19 so there's no reason why he can't add 15 pounds in the next 3 years. His ability with the puck has been very impressive and his decision making is sound.

Nattinen has impressive numbers? 3 points in 9 sm-liiga games last year. I'm not sure we can put much weight into his U18 numbers.

I'm not saying you're for sure wrong I just find your confidence in this kid to be a tad over-zealous. I hope you're right

To be fair, he had 29 points in 39 games playing in Mestis, which is the 2nd best men's league in Finland. I do agree with you though, Nättinen has a long way to go to play in the NHL.

I'm going to pick Friberg, even though Larsson will win by a landslide. I would've picked Wagner and Roy too before him. IMO the Larsson hype is absurd, people are already expecting him to become another Lindholm and so far we've seen zero indication of that happening. I'd rank him pretty close to Pettersson as of now.

 

[snarktacular]

To be fair, he had 29 points in 39 games playing in Mestis, which is the 2nd best men's league in Finland. I do agree with you though, Nättinen has a long way to go to play in the NHL.

I'm going to pick Friberg, even though Larsson will win by a landslide. I would've picked Wagner and Roy too before him. IMO the Larsson hype is absurd, people are already expecting him to become another Lindholm and so far we've seen zero indication of that happening. I'd rank him pretty close to Pettersson as of now.

Considering that Larsson was a 1st round pick, and he's after 3 non-first round picks and a 1st round pick that wasn't made by our scouting staff, I would say he isn't too over-hyped.

 

[Opak]

Considering that Larsson was a 1st round pick, and he's after 3 non-first round picks and a 1st round pick that wasn't made by our scouting staff, I would say he isn't too over-hyped.

Yeah well, unfortunately for us, that's his only merit so far.

IMO draft position is one of the worst ways to rank prospects, especially in polls such as these where other prospects are ahead of others in terms of development. The fact is that even though he's a 1st rounder, he's green as grass at this point. There's no way that Larsson is better as a prospect than Manson, just because he's a 1st rounder and Manson was a 6th rounder.