Proposal: 2015-2016 Season Trade Rumours & Proposals | Part XIII

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Super Cake

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I wonder if the expansion draft coming up may cause gms to be take caution when it comes to trades.

Right now the Sens will protect Karlsson, Ceci and Phaneuf (NMC). If hypothetically they traded for another defenseman in the offseason, they would have to leave him unprotected and just hope for the best. Same thing goes for ufa signings this year.

This expansion draft may screw up the Sens.

They finally get a solid top 4 and then the expansion draft may take that away.
 

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I wonder if the expansion draft coming up may cause gms to be take caution when it comes to trades.

Right now the Sens will protect Karlsson, Ceci and Phaneuf (NMC). If hypothetically they traded for another defenseman in the offseason, they would have to leave him unprotected and just hope for the best. Same thing goes for ufa signings this year.

This expansion draft may screw up the Sens.

They finally get a solid top 4 and then the expansion draft may take that away.

I think given that pretty much every team will have at least 1 top 4 d-man unprotected, that Methot would probably not be picked. There will undoubtedly be better and younger guys available.

Even if he were in danger of being picked, give his chemistry with Karlsson, contract, and ties to the Ottawa area it wouldn't surprise me if we traded the expansion team(s) something to ensure that he wouldn't be picked. Same type of thing that happened the last expansion draft. Methot is much more valuable to us than to other teams.

Apart from a bottom pair LD to play with Wideman, I can't see us making a move for another d-man. At this point a d upgrade is nice to have but not necessary. Our top 4 is pretty much set and there are other far more pressing needs.
 

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An expansion is long overdue and were clearly in the NHL's plans when they realigned the conferences. Shouldn't have taken this long IMO. That being said, I think we are relatively safe. I forget what the NHLPA agreed to, but it should be easy enough to protect our core with the 8 players, especially if ELC are protected as well, may be the best time to be in a rebuild mode.
 

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To be fair, I think Karlsson drags everyone's average up a bit, but I agree our top 6 is very good, but could use that #1 focal point guy that we really haven't had since Spezza had back surgery and just wasn't up to it anymore.

That's a possibly I've considered in the past. But as long as he's here, then everybody is working together to produce those numbers.

I see similarity developing compared to the amount of offensive depth of the pre-lockout Sens teams.

Year - NHL forward scoring rank
1999 – 6, 48, 72, 85
2000 – 49, 52, 60, 62, 73
2001 – 12, 32, 40, 44, 63
2002 – 19, 22, 38, 83, 87
2003 – 14, 17, 51, 53, 75
2004 – 5, 7, 24, 52, 94, 100

2015 – 32, 33, 69, 85, 96
2016 – 35, 43, 56, 81 (maybe Turris could have finished in the 30's again this season)

The positive here for me is that while nobody is hitting those highs, I don't think that the "Bonk & White" ranked players (Ryan & Zibby?) are being carried by a Hossa & Alfredsson (Stone and Turris our the current best). Also, we may get to keep the new Havlat (Hoffman) instead of developing him for other teams.

I think given that pretty much every team will have at least 1 top 4 d-man unprotected, that Methot would probably not be picked. There will undoubtedly be better and younger guys available.

Lots of teams don't have 4 capable top 4 d-men, so they won't have one available.
Some will have exempt top-4 d-men. Some d-men will become UFA's and won't need to be protected. We'll be one of the few teams with 4 good d-men, who are controlled beyond next season.
 

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About Mac and the expansion.

I don't think you can put a player with a no-trade clause on the unprotected list.

Can someone confirm it?
 

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But what about players with a NMC and a modified-NTC? ala Bobby Ryan








Trick question: we don't know the answer.
 

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But what about players with a NMC and a modified-NTC? ala Bobby Ryan








Trick question: we don't know the answer.

I'm going to guess that they can be left unprotected, as the intent of his clause wasn't to prevent any movement at all, but rather to give him more control over his destination.

That said, I can see the players union lawyering up and arguing that the NMC makes x player ineligible, so they'll probably have to battle that one out, but in the end I feel that they wont need to be protected.

I do wonder though if a player can waive his NMC to allow a team to leave him unprotected? Could that be a thing?
 

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I wonder if the expansion draft coming up may cause gms to be take caution when it comes to trades.

Right now the Sens will protect Karlsson, Ceci and Phaneuf (NMC). If hypothetically they traded for another defenseman in the offseason, they would have to leave him unprotected and just hope for the best. Same thing goes for ufa signings this year.

This expansion draft may screw up the Sens.

They finally get a solid top 4 and then the expansion draft may take that away.

Would be fitting, I am sure other teams have suffered as well but it seems like any time the league makes larger decisions we get jobbed here in Ottawa (lockouts and salary cap come immediately to mind)
 

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The 2016 RFA offet sheet compensation salary levels were released today.

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That looks like its actually worth offer sheeting players now.

What happens if a team offers Hoffman 6 x 5.630mil? We probably can't match that term and only get a 1st + 3rd.
 

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That looks like its actually worth offer sheeting players now.

What happens if a team offers Hoffman 6 x 5.630mil? We probably can't match that term and only get a 1st + 3rd.

Yeah that's my first impression too.. Is a 1st and third too much to give for a guy like Hoffman? I don't think so..

Up to 3.7 only a second pick. I could see someone going after Lazar for that price.
 

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Well it's up to 3.7

Just has to be over 1.8, I guess we can always match, but I'm not sure to how high.
 

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Yeah that's my first impression too.. Is a 1st and third too much to give for a guy like Hoffman? I don't think so..

Up to 3.7 only a second pick. I could see someone going after Lazar for that price.
With sens scputing we can probably get a better player than lazar in the second. Although that same staff selected lazar in the firs t
 
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