2015-2016 powerplay

[Connor McSaviour]

It's no secret that the Oilers PP has been pretty putrid during the Eakins and co era, but with the substitution of Mclellan and his coaching staff, where do you see this PP ranking league wide? The new coaching staff has a good resume in SJ, finishing top 10 on the PP in 6 of the last 7 years. The Oilers have all the right PP weapons, I don't see why they can't be a top 5 PP this year.

This would be my setup going into next year.

PP 1:

Hall-McDavid-Lander
Sekera-Yakupov

PP 2:

Poulliot-RNH-Eberle
Schultz-Nikitin

Whats your opinion on where the PP will rank this year, and how would you format the lines?

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[McGoMcD]

I don't think we will start with this, but I think the ultimate first unit is

RNH ---- Schultz

McDavid---Hall---- Eberle

Second unit is whats left

Klef-----Sekara

Yaks-----Purcell-----Drai

But that first unit would be deadly, beyond deadly really.

 

[Connor McSaviour]

I don't think we will start with this, but I think the ultimate first unit is

RNH ---- Schultz

McDavid---Hall---- Eberle

Second unit is whats left

Klef-----Sekara

Yaks-----Purcell-----Drai

But that first unit would be deadly, beyond deadly really.

I think Lander and Poulliot provide a good net presence. That's why I have them both on different units.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

It's no secret that the Oilers PP has been pretty putrid during the Eakins and co era, but with the substitution of Mclellan and his coaching staff, where do you see this PP ranking league wide? The new coaching staff has a good resume in SJ, finishing top 10 on the PP in 6 of the last 7 years. The Oilers have all the right PP weapons, I don't see why they can't be a top 5 PP this year.

This would be my setup going into next year.

PP 1:

Hall-McDavid-Lander
Sekera-Yakupov

PP 2:

Poulliot-RNH-Eberle
Schultz-Nikitin

Whats your opinion on where the PP will rank this year, and how would you format the lines?

I'd do those exact lines but maybe purcell splitting time with lander and Klefbom taking nikitins spot when ference plays

 

[McGoMcD]

I think Lander and Poulliot provide a good net presence. That's why I have them both on different units.

The good net presence is not really a good idea. I don't like having a guy like Gordon out there, sure you win the draw and he can stand in front, but the best pp units don't work like that. The thought of Lander on the first unit is just a bad idea IMO. McClelland ran his pp in SJ with the best players. He never stuck a Lander on the first unit. So I expect he won't this year.

 

[Stud Muffin]

You don't have one right hand shot on your power play

 

[McGoMcD]

You don't have one right hand shot on your power play

Ya, one way or the other I think Schultz and Eberle will be on the right side. Just need those right handed shots.

 

[Connor McSaviour]

The good net presence is not really a good idea. I don't like having a guy like Gordon out there, sure you win the draw and he can stand in front, but the best pp units don't work like that. The thought of Lander on the first unit is just a bad idea IMO. McClelland ran his pp in SJ with the best players. He never stuck a Lander on the first unit. So I expect he won't this year.

Lander and Poulliot are not Gordon. Both can keep up with the play, and have good hands in tight.

 

[McGoMcD]

Lander and Poulliot are not Gordon. Both can keep up with the play, and have good hands in tight.

Ok, sure, but I still don't see the need for them to be on the first unit.

 

[PaPaDee]

I don't think we will start with this, but I think the ultimate first unit is

RNH ---- Schultz

McDavid---Hall---- Eberle

Second unit is whats left

Klef-----Sekara

Yaks-----Purcell-----Drai

But that first unit would be deadly, beyond deadly really.

I'll disagree with you in that I believe there needs to be at least one person willing to muck it up in front of the net on every unit.

 

[Kalost]

I'll disagree with you in that I believe there needs to be at least one person willing to muck it up in front of the net on every unit.

yes that would make our defensemen usefull on a powerplay for shooting at the net, otherwise it's the same old goalie will see every puck they throw on net like the last few years.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Someone did a pretty good video compilation of the SJ PP.

The way TM mucks it up on the powerplay, is to move the puck around as fast as possible to create as much chaos as possible. It isn't about screening the goalie, shots from the point or set plays. It simply looked like generation of chaos.

Net Presence isn't necessarily required. Neither was a booming shot from the point. San Jose made it work without either.

 

[McDrai]

PP1

Eberle/Hall/RNH

McDavid/Schultz

PP2

Pouliot/Lander/Yakupov

Klefbom/Sekera

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Someone did a pretty good video compilation of the SJ PP.

The way TM mucks it up on the powerplay, is to move the puck around as fast as possible to create as much chaos as possible. It isn't about screening the goalie, shots from the point or set plays. It simply looked like generation of chaos.

Net Presence isn't necessarily required. Neither was a booming shot from the point. San Jose made it work without either.

Good call.

It will be an exciting change from the, "wait on the right half wall for 1:30 mins, pass to Schultz and watch him fumble the puck out of the zone," scheme we've been following for forever.

I think McLellan's PP style will fit perfectly with this group.

 

[ohheyhemsky]

Also, just because I want to refute OP in another way than his PP set up and players, what was our PP under Nelson sans the first 10 games with MacT.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

The other option would be to let. Yak hit the half wall

Pouliot-rnh-eberle
Sekera-schultz

Hall-lander-yakupov
Klef-mcdavid

I have no idea

 

[Connor McSaviour]

Also, just because I want to refute OP in another way than his PP set up and players, what was our PP under Nelson sans the first 10 games with MacT.

I don't have access to those stats, but if my memory serves correct, they improved by a pretty substantial amount after Eakins got the boot.

 

[McShogun99]

It's no secret that the Oilers PP has been pretty putrid during the Eakins and co era, but with the substitution of Mclellan and his coaching staff, where do you see this PP ranking league wide? The new coaching staff has a good resume in SJ, finishing top 10 on the PP in 6 of the last 7 years. The Oilers have all the right PP weapons, I don't see why they can't be a top 5 PP this year.

This would be my setup going into next year.

PP 1:

Hall-McDavid-Lander
Sekera-Yakupov

PP 2:

Poulliot-RNH-Eberle
Schultz-Nikitin

Whats your opinion on where the PP will rank this year, and how would you format the lines?

I like both point options. Yakupov gets paired with a solid 2-way defenceman and Nikitin gets featured on the 2nd unit and also has a good shot.

I don't like the forward setups though. 1st unit i'd go with;

Eberle-Lander-Mcdavid

2nd unit would be;

Hall-Pouliot-RNH

If Draisaitl makes the team then he takes either Lander or Pouliot's spot. Purcell can be a temp fill in.

 

[Mr Positive]

Todd Nelson's powerplay had a huge spurt of around 25%, and then fell off again after the Petry trade and injuries we had. After a dip, it recovered to a decent percentage after.

Eakins PP: 12/93 12.9%
Eakins PK: 18/87 79.3%

Nelson PP: 29/139 20.9%
Nelson PK: 33/132 75.0%

Nelson's numbers include the time MacT was behind the bench, but I think these numbers are representative. I do recall our PK was bad. Without MacT/Nelson period the numbers would probably be a touch better for Nelson. I recall those games being losses.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Good call.

It will be an exciting change from the, "wait on the right half wall for 1:30 mins, pass to Schultz and watch him fumble the puck out of the zone," scheme we've been following for forever.

I think McLellan's PP style will fit perfectly with this group.

My sense of the oilers goal scoring in the recent past has been transition and rush scoring is great some great plays but usually a lack of cohesion.

Like a delay between a shot on net and someone going to the net for a rebound or someone trying to create confusion in front of the net and instead of passing to get a quick shot they try to cycle

Or the defense doesn't hit the net or the winger misses the net

Or the centre evades a cheque to keep the play going but the winger looses it instantly

Ie sloppy plays
Specifically when they don't use their speed.

 

[Kalost]

Someone did a pretty good video compilation of the SJ PP.

The way TM mucks it up on the powerplay, is to move the puck around as fast as possible to create as much chaos as possible. It isn't about screening the goalie, shots from the point or set plays. It simply looked like generation of chaos.

Net Presence isn't necessarily required. Neither was a booming shot from the point. San Jose made it work without either.

you know what creates chaos? a screened goalie and shots on net

 

[thadd]

Would like to see Yakupov play the point and I'd like to see him either
A: Shoot from the point.
B: Skate the puck in and then
*B: Shoot if the shot is there and cycle back to the point if the shot doesn't work.
**B: Take the puck to the outside and make a pass from behind the net and have the winger on his side switch to the point when his play is made.
***B: make a cross ice pass to either the opposite winger or the center. Either cycle back to the point or go crash the other side of the net in case a rebound or a pass comes his way.

Yakupov is a great passer, an unselfish player and one hell of an athlete and if I were the coach I'd be telling him to be the guy to start the execution of plays whenever the team is set up in the PP zone.

Hall-Mcdavid-Eberle
Sekera-Yakupov

 

[McDrai]

Would like to see Yakupov play the point and I'd like to see him either
A: Shoot from the point.
B: Skate the puck in and then
*B: Shoot if the shot is there and cycle back to the point if the shot doesn't work.
**B: Take the puck to the outside and make a pass from behind the net and have the winger on his side switch to the point when his play is made.
***B: make a cross ice pass to either the opposite winger or the center. Either cycle back to the point or go crash the other side of the net in case a rebound or a pass comes his way.

Yakupov is a great passer, an unselfish player and one hell of an athlete and if I were the coach I'd be telling him to be the guy to start the execution of plays whenever the team is set up in the PP zone.

Hall-Mcdavid-Eberle
Sekera-Yakupov

Yakupov should be the last guy to set up plays in the PP Zone. McDavid and RNH are more suited for that role. I think Yakupov would be best suited on the right side close to the net where he scores most of his goals from

 

[thadd]

Yakupov should be the last guy to set up plays in the PP Zone. McDavid and RNH are more suited for that role. I think Yakupov would be best suited on the right side close to the net where he scores most of his goals from

He's got a great slapshot. Have Klefbom on one of the PP units and Yakupov on the other so that you've always got a good threat from the point. If there's no threat from the point the opposition can cover less of their zone on the PK and that makes it harder to score goals.

 

[Mr Positive]

Hall is not great on the power play at all. Our PP was its most red hot when he wasn't on it. On a healthy squad he would be on the 2nd unit.