WC: 2015 — Team Switzerland

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beelby

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Berra
Gerber
Conz

Streit-Furrer
Muller-Seger
Blindenbacher-Vauclair

Wick-Romy-Brunner
Hollenstein-:eek::eek::eek::eek:i-Moser
Suri-Ambuhl-Martschini
Trachsler-Pluss-Gardner

I do indeed follow the NLA when I can, and I'm definitely not a specialist, all Swiss players seem to play smart and it's hard to pick from all the players, but after some thought that's what I find most realistic.

What do you guys think?
 

jka*

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Berra
Gerber
Conz

Streit-Furrer
Muller-Seger
Blindenbacher-Vauclair

Wick-Romy-Brunner
Hollenstein-:eek::eek::eek::eek:i-Moser
Suri-Ambuhl-Martschini
Trachsler-Pluss-Gardner

I do indeed follow the NLA when I can, and I'm definitely not a specialist, all Swiss players seem to play smart and it's hard to pick from all the players, but after some thought that's what I find most realistic.

What do you guys think?

Would been nice.

Suiss is one posential medalj place with this team.

Colour is greatest players in Suiss.
 

stv11

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Berra
Gerber
Conz

Streit-Furrer
Muller-Seger
Blindenbacher-Vauclair

Wick-Romy-Brunner
Hollenstein-:eek::eek::eek::eek:i-Moser
Suri-Ambuhl-Martschini
Trachsler-Pluss-Gardner

I was about to start this discussion, looks like I was beaten to it ;) It's a bit difficult to guess who will make the team, as it's Hanlon's first tournament with Switzerland and although I think that a player's skillset and previous international experience should count a lot more than his current form when it comes to international hockey, you never know how a new coach will value someone's play before he was in charge.

First, the goalies. Hiller could be available after the first round, but he hasn't played at the WC since 2008, so I don't count on him. Berra will be available and hopefully will join the team. From the NLA, the only goalie I'd be comfortable with is Stephan. Gerber doesn't look as solid as he used to be, and there's not much behind him. Flüeler is probably the next best option, but he's untested at this level, Genoni already had a decent WC but it was already 4 years ago, Manzato is back in his Basel form but probably not good enough for the national team, Mayer was injured for most of season, and Conz is one of the worst starter in the league. Maybe Zurkirchen can get a look? Anyway, hopefully Berra and Stephan will be there and the rest won't matter, if not goaltending could be a weakness.

Defense should be a strength. Streit will probably be available, but I'm not sure if he will prefer to rest. Don't forget he just turned 37. Josi should be in a deep playoff run, although you never know what can happen in the first round, and Müller would need both his NHL and AHL team to be out. On the other hand, there's a good chance some reinforcement could come from either Vancouver or Calgary. In the end, I guess it's not unrealistic to count on two NHL defensemen.

From the NLA, there's always Seger, Vauclair, Blindenbacher and Furrer to provide experience, Grossmann had a great first season in Zug, Loeffel had a breakout year, Du Bois, although I've never liked him too much at this level, played really well too, and there's still Von Gunten. And last but not least, Kukan should be back after his good showing last year (and it seems he got increased responsabilities with Luleå, although I only saw them twice and would welcome any information from LHF fans).

Regarding the forwards, there could be some trouble. The bottom six should be fine, with Trachsler being a lock to center the 4th line, Walker having a terrific season, and many possiblities for the third spot (Bieber who is proven at this level, Schäppi who was a pleasant surprise last year, Wieser who showed nice things during the exhibition tournaments, or Froideveaux who took a leading role with Lausanne). I think you're spot on with the third line, Ambühl and Suri have been a fixture in this role since 2013 and work well together, and the chemistry between Suri and Martschini is difficult to pass on.

On the other hand, it will be tough to find enough top six players. There are three possibilities at center: Romy, Plüss and :eek::eek::eek::eek:i. Romy is injured and hasn't played in the playoffs yet. He should be back next week if his team makes it through the first round, but it's possible he will take care of his injury once his club season is over. Plüss should be a lock, but he will be 38 when the tournament starts, and already declined last year because he had no gas left. :eek::eek::eek::eek:i is a lock to make it, even though he hasn't been as impressive as last season. If all three end up on the team, I guess that Ambühl will play on the wing somewhere in the bottom six. Regarding wingers, Hollenstein is the only lock. Moser would normally be seen as a lock, but he was injured for half of the season and hasn't shown much offence since, so he may be more of a 4th liner right now. Brunner got a head injury during the second game of the playoffs and although he should play again tonight, if he's concussed he will probably prefer to skip the tournament. Wick and Sprunger have retired from international hockey and won't go to Prague. Bodenman didn't do much this season, and Gardner didn't produce as much as usual. I guess this makes Pestoni the next best option. From North America, things looked good for a long time, but Minnesota is back in a playoff spot and looks set to enter the post season with a lot of momentum, and Bärtschi was just traded to a team going to the playoffs, so in the worst case neither him nor Niederreiter will be available. I wouldn't count on Fiala at all as even with Milwaukee out, Nashville will probably want him on their roster for the playoffs. If nothing works out, I guess that Suri and Martschini will have to play on the top six.

So, best case Scenario would be something like:

Moser - Romy - Brunner
Niederreiter/Bärtschi - :eek::eek::eek::eek:i - Hollenstein
Suri - Plüss - Martschini
Ambühl - Trachsler - Walker

and the worst case:

Suri - Ambühl - Martschini
Pestoni - :eek::eek::eek::eek:i - Hollenstein
Bieber - Trachsler - Walker
Froideveaux - Schäppi - Wieser

I guess this could be realistic:

Brunner/Niederreiter/Bärtschi - Romy/Plüss - Moser
Pestoni/Bodenmann/Niederreiter - :eek::eek::eek::eek:i - Hollenstein
Suri - Ambühl - Martschini
Bieber/Wieser/Schäppi - Trachsler - Walker

I guess we'll have to wait for two weeks and see who the first camp invites are.
 

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Quite hard to imagine which players ll being selected by the new coach. I really hope and think it ll be very different than the 3 selections who played during that current season at the different tournaments. I can understand he selected so many unproved players to rest the best for the WM. But i want to see his first list before having any judgement.
 

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LINO MARTSCHINI - Zug/NLA - RW - R
RETO SURI - Zug/NLA - LW - L
ANDRES AMBÃœHL - Davos/NLA - CE - R
DENIS HOLLENSTEIN - Kloten/NLA - LW/RW - L
MORRIS TRACHSLER - ZSC/NLA - CE - L
ETIENNE FROIDEVAUX - Lausanne/NLA - CE - L
LUCA :eek::eek::eek::eek:I - ZSC/NLA - CE - L
DAMIEN BRUNNER - Lugano/NLA - RW - R
SIMON MOSER - Bern/NLA - LW/RW - L
RETO SCHÄPPI - ZSC/NLA - LW/CE - L
CHRISTOPH BERTSCHY - Bern/NLA - RW - R
TRISTAN SCHERWEY - Bern/NLA - LW - L
GREGORY HOFMANN - Davos/NLA - LW/CE - L
DARIO SIMION - Davos/NLA - RW - R

Inti Pestoni is injury..

HOLLENSTEIN - :eek::eek::eek::eek:I - BRUNNER
SURI - AMBÃœHL - MARTSCHINI
SCHERWEY - FROIDEVAUX - BERTSCHY
SCHÄPPI - TRACHSLER - MOSER
HOFMANN,SIMIO
 
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stv11

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Quite hard to imagine which players ll being selected by the new coach. I really hope and think it ll be very different than the 3 selections who played during that current season at the different tournaments. I can understand he selected so many unproved players to rest the best for the WM. But i want to see his first list before having any judgement.

I wouldn't worry about the three roster he selected so far, they were clearly meant to try players. It makes sense as we all know what guys like Plüss or Blindenbacher, just to name two, can do and don't need to see if they are good enough.

And for some reason, I thought that Bertschy was out for the season and didn't consider him for my roster, but he's back in the playoffs. I was a bit disappointed by his play at the Deutschland cup, but he's still a serious candidate to make the team.
 

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Glen Hanlon was given the task to rejuvenate the team of Switzerland. I do not think that would travel to the World Championships Pluss.
 

stv11

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Glen Hanlon was given the task to rejuvenate the team of Switzerland. I do not think that would travel to the World Championships Pluss.

His task is not to build a younger team, it's to build the best possible team, and there's no doubt Plüss is a part of it. The only way Plüss doesn't go to Prague is if he prefers to rest.
 

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Vauclair today announced that he retired from the NT and won't play for Switzerland again. He played in 12 World Championships and 3 olympic games.
 

stv11

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Vauclair today announced that he retired from the NT and won't play for Switzerland again. He played in 12 World Championships and 3 olympic games.

He'll be missed, one of those guys who always answered the call. Too bad he got that injury just before the tournament last year.
 

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And there's the first roster. Good news with Brunner and Suri, but Stephan and Von Gunten are the biggest name missing. Some other notable who didn't make it are Chiesa, Simek, Ramholt and Bürgler, but none of them are WC caliber player anyway. Surprising comeback by Sannitz.

Benjamin Conz (HC Fribourg-Gottéron)
Manzato Daniel (HC Lugano)

Joël Genazzi (Lausanne HC)
Robin Grossmann (EV Zug)
Timo Helbling (HC Fribourg-Gottéron)
Jérémie Kamerzin (HC Fribourg-Gottéron)
Clarence Kparghai (HC Lugano)
Larri Leeger (Lausanne HC)
Dominik Schlumpf (EV Zug)

Matthias Bieber (Kloten Flyers)
Simon Bodenmann (Kloten Flyers)
Damien Brunner (HC Lugano)
Etienne Froidevaux (Lausanne HC)
Gaëtan Haas (HC Bienne)
Fabrice Herzog (EV Zug)
Denis Hollenstein (Kloten Flyers)
Romano Lemm (Kloten Flyers)
Lino Martschini (EV Zug)
Matthias Rossi (HC Bienne)
Raffaele Sannitz (HC Lugano)
Reto Suri (EV Zug)
Julian Walker (HC Lugano)

Unimpressive goaltending and defense, with Grossmann the only D likely to make the final team, but already a nice group of forwards.
 
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I miss Von Gunten, does anyone know if he's injured?

Goalies will most probably be Berra and 3 out of Mayer, Flüeler and Genoni.

If Hanlon can count on Blum, Furrer, Blindenbacher, Geering and Du Bois and maybe one from NA the D wouldn't look too bad. Kukan should also be available and Schlumpf was quite solid last year (although he played with Josi which makes you look good anyway).
 

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I just came around this article which says that Plüss retired from the national team: http://www.tio.ch/news/sport/hockey...-mondiale-saranno-protagonisti-all-olimpiade-

I don't remember reading anything about it, anyone knows if it's true? Or maybe the author has him confused with Wick.

I miss Von Gunten, does anyone know if he's injured?

Goalies will most probably be Berra and 3 out of Mayer, Flüeler and Genoni.

If Hanlon can count on Blum, Furrer, Blindenbacher, Geering and Du Bois and maybe one from NA the D wouldn't look too bad. Kukan should also be available and Schlumpf was quite solid last year (although he played with Josi which makes you look good anyway).

I didn't see anything about Von Gunten. I know he hasn't been that impressive lately and recent form may carry more weight when there is a new coach, but it didn't prevent Hanlon from picking Bodenmann, and even if he would have been eventually cut, he's still better that most defensemen called up yesterday.

I agree with your assessement of the goalie situation, unless Hiller makes a surprise appearance, we're looking at Berra, Flüeler and Genoni. Not the most exciting combo, but maybe it's finally time to see what Flüeler can do.

Regarding the defense, as I already wrote in this thread, the depth is good enough to afford a few inuries. I'm not crazy about Du Bois at this level, but I guess he'd be fine as a depth player. Two of him, Blum and Grossmann should play on the 4th pair. Blindenbacher, Furrer and Seger can still provide experience, Kukan should be a lock after last year's tournament, and we can hope for one or two NHLers. I'm not sure about Geering and Schlumpf. Geering was overlooked many times after very strong seasons, not sure he'll make it now after missing half of the season and being unimpressive when he played (although it could be a wrong impression, I haven't watched many ZSC games lately). Schlumpf did well last year, but he struggled this season and although his move to Zug seems to have helped, I wouldn't take him for anything other than a fourth pair job, and even then Grossmann is ahead of him for this role.
 

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If Plüss retired that would have been big news. Perhaps the author has inside-informations. We'll see when the SCB is out and Hanlon sends out the nominations.
 

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If Plüss retired that would have been big news. Perhaps the author has inside-informations. We'll see when the SCB is out and Hanlon sends out the nominations.

Given the wording, I think it's a confusion between Plüss and Wick:

Al termine della regular season, sono stati soltanto tre gli svizzeri che si sono potuti fregiare del casco di Top Scorer e, tra questi, c’era Martin Plüss che ha deciso di non giocare più con la maglia della Svizzera.

Translation: "At the end of the regular season, there were only three Swiss players who managed to wear the top scorer helmet, one of which is Martin Plüss who decided not to play for the national team anymore."

The three players are Plüss, Wick and Hollenstein, and Wick has indeed announced his retirement from the national team. Strange that they wouldn't mention it.

Anyway, this article is poorly written and most of it doesn't make much sense. It fits the reputation of tio.ch.
 

stv11

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Kukan, Blum, Furrer, Plüss, Moser, Bertschy and Gardner now available, with at least a goalie, a defenseman and a forward coming from the loser of the ZSC-GSHC serie. It means an already pretty decent team for the games against Russia.

Anyone who follows SCB can comment on Moser? Every time I saw him he played well, I just can't understand why his stats are so bad.
 

stv11

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He's unlikely to go to Prague, but he could be a decent addition for the 2nd week. It's not a given that Plüss and Bertschy will be available, and if Geneva is the other team out they only have Romy to provide, and he had to battle injuries too. In this case, Gardner would be a better alternative than keeping Herzog, Sannitz or Rossi.
 

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I'd rather see the young guys getting another week than seeing Gardner. They can profit more from it.

And Servette also has Almond who will surley get a call. Rubin is also a possibility. Maybe even Rod.
 
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