WJC: 2015 — Canada Roster Talk (Part IV)

[jaytibo]

quater final

Do you know how does it work for the quater final. Is there any chance to see Canada play the quater final in Mtl or not.

Thanks guy

 

[Le Golie]

Do you know how does it work for the quater final. Is there any chance to see Canada play the quater final in Mtl or not.

Thanks guy

Canada goes to Toronto for quarterfinals no matter what.

 

[199991]

Nobody is talking about Gauthier now?

 

[Get North]

Nobody is talking about Gauthier now?

Nope. He had a good game yesterday.

 

[Sharpshooter]

Nobody is talking about Gauthier now?

We did talk about Gauthier, if you read the thread. He played better last night than he has prior to it. It was noted by many people.

 

[deckercky]

If he keeps up that play, there will be some crow eating required. If he plays at the level of the first two games (even though the second one was much better than the first game), then he clearly shouldn't be on the roster.

I hope he can keep up the good play as the team goes through the tougher games.

 

[arsmaster*]

Nobody is talking about Gauthier now?

Give it a rest.

 

[Sharpshooter]

If he keeps up that play, there will be some crow eating required. If he plays at the level of the first two games (even though the second one was much better than the first game), then he clearly shouldn't be on the roster.

I hope he can keep up the good play as the team goes through the tougher games.

Not sure if crow will be on the menu, since most of the criticism was about Gauthier holding Virtanen back. With Virtanen moving on to play with more skilled players, and Gauthier playing with a rightfully so demoted Ritchie in a more defensive/checking 4th line, the team as a whole seems to have finally become balanced, moreso.

Good on Gauthier and Ritchie if they provide solid checking line performances, and good on Virtanen if he and his linemates produce offencively.

All's well that ends well, with the right player in the right place on TC.

Onwards and upwards collectively(players and supporters alike)

 

[leafsfuture]

A little unsure about the decision to start Comrie.

Here is my thing -- if Comrie is just ok, or worse then its obvious, run with Fucale. BUT if Comrie is really good, what do you do?

People here are saying, its Comrie's net to run with if he plays well, but the issue there is -- if that was really Groulx's plan, why would he have started Fucale in 4 of the 6 games we have played?

My theory is that the plan was to have the goalie's split the round robin, than pick one for the medal round. Fair enough, but if I was the coach in that case I would have led with Comrie.

Anyways, this reminds me of 2012 when it came down to the incumbent Visentin vs the new guy Wedgwood. Wedgwood got the US game, then played in the semis, and was terrible in the semis. A lot of it IMO stemmed from the fact that in the leadup to the US game, Visentin was given more starts, but then Wedgwood got the key games.

Like it or not, when you have an incumbent and a rookie on the team, you have to handle the situation differently than if its two new guys

 

[Sharpshooter]

A little unsure about the decision to start Comrie.

Here is my thing -- if Comrie is just ok, or worse then its obvious, run with Fucale. BUT if Comrie is really good, what do you do?

People here are saying, its Comrie's net to run with if he plays well, but the issue there is -- if that was really Groulx's plan, why would he have started Fucale in 4 of the 6 games we have played?

My theory is that the plan was to have the goalie's split the round robin, than pick one for the medal round. Fair enough, but if I was the coach in that case I would have led with Comrie.

Anyways, this reminds me of 2012 when it came down to the incumbent Visentin vs the new guy Wedgwood. Wedgwood got the US game, then played in the semis, and was terrible in the semis. A lot of it IMO stemmed from the fact that in the leadup to the US game, Visentin was given more starts, but then Wedgwood got the key games.

Like it or not, when you have an incumbent and a rookie on the team, you have to handle the situation differently than if its two new guys

Run with Comrie if he's a difference maker or dominates against the vaunted US squad, or return to Fucale if CAN loses, or wins by the skin of its teeth.

The only other point from me is, i'd go with Comrie, still, if he was lights out and CAN wins 1-0, 2-1, 3-2 or something really close, and it was because of him standing on his head, despite no fault goals, that CAN won.

 

[CaptainChef]

Give it a rest.

world revolves around their prospects. All we see on here is Gauthier this and Virtanen that ..... and then they wonder why we cheer for someone else

 

[Novak Djokovic]

Win tomorrow: Russia in the semi-finals
Lose tomorrow: Sweden or Finland in the semi-finals

 

[wings5]

Win tomorrow: Russia in the semi-finals
Lose tomorrow: Sweden or Finland in the semi-finals

Wow, in that case I might rather lose.....

 

[leafsfuture]

Run with Comrie if he's a difference maker or dominates against the vaunted US squad, or return to Fucale if CAN loses, or wins by the skin of its teeth.

The only other point from me is, i'd go with Comrie, still, if he was lights out and CAN wins 1-0, 2-1, 3-2 or something really close, and it was because of him standing on his head, despite no fault goals, that CAN won.

Issue is that then your making something a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

Fucale was real good yesterday. Good enough to erase pretty much all doubts that stemmed from the Russia game. Why not just run with him? Why add more variables just on the off chance Comrie might be a little bit better?

its a risk. It could pay off, but for me its a risk

 

[CaptainChef]

Issue is that then your making something a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

Fucale was real good yesterday. Good enough to erase pretty much all doubts that stemmed from the Russia game. Why not just run with him? Why add more variables just on the off chance Comrie might be a little bit better?

its a risk. It could pay off, but for me its a risk

And Fucale isn't a risk? Perhaps you've forgot who let in 5 goals on 23 shots against Finland in the semi-finals last year.

 

[Novak Djokovic]

Wow, in that case I might rather lose.....

Maybe, but I can never root for them to lose. Go CANADA!

 

[Patmac40]

And Fucale isn't a risk? Perhaps you've forgot who let in 5 goals on 23 shots against Finland in the semi-finals last year.

In the same breath, he had a shutout the year prior in the U18 finals while Comrie was his backup. But that doesn't matter because it's a new year and should run with whoever plays better. You probably shouldn't look at a single game from a year ago to determine the risk.

 

[Sharpshooter]

Issue is that then your making something a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

Fucale was real good yesterday. Good enough to erase pretty much all doubts that stemmed from the Russia game. Why not just run with him? Why add more variables just on the off chance Comrie might be a little bit better?

its a risk. It could pay off, but for me its a risk

I reckon if Comrie plays better against the harder of the competition than Fucale does against weaker competition...then you go with the goalie that played better against better competition.

Simple enough now?

 

[NHL Fanatic]

Not much of a big deal. After the game against the US, just need to do a re-evaluation. Just go with the goalie they feel more comfortable with. Win or lose tomorrow for Comrie, I would personally go with Fucale down the stretch but you can't go wrong with either.

 

[Scouter]

Issue is that then your making something a lot more complicated than it needs to be.

Fucale was real good yesterday. Good enough to erase pretty much all doubts that stemmed from the Russia game. Why not just run with him? Why add more variables just on the off chance Comrie might be a little bit better?

its a risk. It could pay off, but for me its a risk

No, it's because the goal he did let in was a bad one.

 

[Alerion]

And Fucale isn't a risk? Perhaps you've forgot who let in 5 goals on 23 shots against Finland in the semi-finals last year.

People forget he was stellar against the Americans in last year's NYE game.

 

[LiquidSnake]

So Virtanen gets a promotion after what some of these experts on here called "stupid or idiotic".

Thankfully there are many people in the hockey world that still know what they're talking about.

Well deserved promo.

 

[oStealthKiller*]

My opinion so far

Standouts:
Sam R
Domi
Duclair
Fabri
Bowie
Morissey

Above average:
Mcdavid
Lazar
Nurse
Theodore
Fucale

Average:
Everyone else

Below average:
#20(hall?)

Standout poor:
Honestly cant say anyone fits here

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

My opinion so far

Standouts:
Sam R
Domi
Duclair
Fabri
Bowie
Morissey

Above average:
Mcdavid
Lazar
Nurse
Theodore
Fucale

Average:
Everyone else

Below average:
#20(hall?)

Standout poor:
Honestly cant say anyone fits here

IMO

Nurse has been better than Bowey easily in my books. I'd put Bowey into the above average category.

#20 Paul has been decent.

I'd throw Hicketts in the below average catergory he's been losing quite a few puck battles, while as the other defenceman have just been overpowering other players taking the puck off them.

 

[Tv9924]

My opinion so far

Standouts:
Sam R
Domi
Duclair
Fabri
Bowie
Morissey

Above average:
Mcdavid
Lazar
Nurse
Theodore
Fucale

Average:
Everyone else

Below average:
#20(hall?)

Standout poor:
Honestly cant say anyone fits here

I'd switch Bowie and Nurse, and Fabbri and Petan; Lazar belongs in the average group in my opinion.