Prospect Info: 2014 Habs Board Prospect Rankings #2

[Shutdown]

Zykov, Sherback and De la rose is still a possibility though.


All in all, I'm not happy with this pick. A first rounder should be considered to be one of your top prospect after one year.

I don't even know if he's top 10 right now FFS

He would've been a perfect second round pick. Not a first rounder. And I know I was excited about him on draft day, just not in the 1st.

But what's the difference if De La Rose was, hypothetically, ranked above McCarron on Timmins' list but they took McCarron first knowing full well he'd be gone by their first second round pick? You still end up with the same prospects.

 

[Mrb1p]

But what's the difference if De La Rose was, hypothetically, ranked above McCarron on Timmins' list but they took McCarron first knowing full well he'd be gone by their first second round pick? You still end up with the same prospects.

You think De la rose was a worthy pick for the top round ? I don't. Both low upside picks.

Great prospects, really. But low upside.

 

[Shutdown]

You think De la rose was a worthy pick for the top round ? I don't. Both low upside picks.

Great prospects, really. But low upside.

At 25? Absolutely.

 

[QuebecPride]

DLR, add Thrower.

 

[Mrb1p]

At 25? Absolutely.

He was probably a better pick at 25 than McCarron for sure.

We still got him in the second, so its irrelevant. What is relevant is that we picked McCarron over way better prospects.

Klimchuck, Theodore, Dickinson, Hartman, McCoshen, Erne, Zykov and Petan for once are all much better.

We do need size, but we also need skill. A guy like Dickinson would give us just that.

 

[Shutdown]

He was probably a better pick at 25 than McCarron for sure.

We still got him in the second, so its irrelevant. What is relevant is that we picked McCarron over way better prospects.

Klimchuck, Theodore, Dickinson, Hartman, McCoshen, Erne, Zykov and Petan for once are all much better.

We do need size, but we also need skill. A guy like Dickinson would give us just that.

I think what's relevant is the Habs probably got both the guys they targetted. And McCarron is a hell of a unique prospect. It's clear that he's a longer term project, but at over 6'5, with his skillset, it's hard to make any judgements against his peers until he's a pro.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think what's relevant is the Habs probably got both the guys they targetted. And McCarron is a hell of a unique prospect. It's clear that he's a longer term project, but at over 6'5, with his skillset, it's hard to make any judgements against his peers until he's a pro.

What is McCarron skill set exactly ? I just see a big goofy kids overpowering small kids.

 

[Dr_Hook]

Hesitated between Slick Nik and DLR. Went with Jacob. My expectations of Tinordi have lowered just a smidge. I'll have him at #4

 

[QuebecPride]

What is McCarron skill set exactly ? I just see a big goofy kids overpowering small kids.

Puck protection, board work, net front presence, heavy hitter, excellent puck retriever. Not many players will be able to take the puck away from him when he's filled out.

 

[Shutdown]

What is McCarron skill set exactly ? I just see a big goofy kids overpowering small kids.

... Really?

He has a heavy, pro-level shot. His hands and skating are remarkable for a guy his size. It's just a question of putting it all together. The improvement has been there consistently since the beginning of his draft year (2012). Not much else I can say here if you can't see the qualities he brings to the table.

 

[PavelBrendl]

Going with Scherbak for the upside.

 

[Mrb1p]

... Really?

He has a heavy, pro-level shot. His hands and skating are remarkable for a guy his size. It's just a question of putting it all together. The improvement has been there consistently since the beginning of his draft year (2012). Not much else I can say here if you can't see the qualities he brings to the table.

What are the NHL comparables ?

Point is, no player of his type ever panned out aside from Lucic.

All his "skills" come from him being bigger and stronger than everybody. This doesn't happen in the NHL.


I hope more than anyone that he pans out and becomes a top 6 forward.

But what are the chances ?

 

[Shutdown]

What are the NHL comparables ?

Point is, no player of his type ever panned out aside from Lucic.

All his "skills" come from him being bigger and stronger than everybody. This doesn't happen in the NHL.


I hope more than anyone that he pans out and becomes a top 6 forward.

But what are the chances ?

Don't you find it funny that comparables usually stop when players turn pro? Or that most first rounders are compared to HOF players? That's probably because it's a lazy and ineffective way to evaluate a player. Especially a guy like McCarron.

Bottom line is he's a truly unique prospect.

Anyway, this thread isn't about him, though I think I explained my point of view.

 

[Mrb1p]

Don't you find it funny that comparables usually stop when players turn pro? Or that most first rounders are compared to HOF players? That's probably because it's a lazy and ineffective way to evaluate a player. Especially a guy like McCarron.

Bottom line is he's a truly unique prospect.

Anyway, this thread isn't about him, though I think I explained my point of view.

You're right, it isn't about him. But it should damn well be. And that was the purpose of my first post.

 

[Intangiblezz]

He was probably a better pick at 25 than McCarron for sure.

We still got him in the second, so its irrelevant. What is relevant is that we picked McCarron over way better prospects.

Klimchuck, Theodore, Dickinson, Hartman, McCoshen, Erne, Zykov and Petan for once are all much better.

We do need size, but we also need skill. A guy like Dickinson would give us just that.

At the time of the draft I was all for Ryan Hartman but in hindsight, I would take Jason Dickinson or Shea Theodore instead of McCarron.

Petan is skilled but just too small. Erne and Zykov both fell to the 2nd round. 8 and 11 teams passed those two other tha just us. There must be something involved in that decision that we, the fans don't know. I personally see middle 6 scorers in those 2. Klimchuk and McCoshen would be decent adds to our prospect pool but would rather have Dickinson or Theodore.

Those are the only 2 I would take over the package that McCarron brings.

 

[MXD]

JDLFR.

Add Thrower

 

[Mrb1p]

At the time of the draft I was all for Ryan Hartman but in hindsight, I would take Jason Dickinson or Shea Theodore instead of McCarron.

Petan is skilled but just too small. Erne and Zykov both fell to the 2nd round. 8 and 11 teams passed those two other tha just us. There must be something involved in that decision that we, the fans don't know. I personally see middle 6 scorers in those 2. Klimchuk and McCoshen would be decent adds to our prospect pool but would rather have Dickinson or Theodore.

Those are the only 2 I would take over the package that McCarron brings.

Dickinson was a huge favorite of mine and I'm pretty sure he'd be our 2nd best prospect right now.

 

[Tyson]

Hard not to pick an NHL ready Dman over kids who are still playing against kids

 

[Team_Spirit]

Puck protection, board work, net front presence, heavy hitter, excellent puck retriever. Not many players will be able to take the puck away from him when he's filled out.

always straight to the net this kid will make it if he works hard and stay focused.

 

[Mrb1p]

always straight to the net this kid will make it if he works hard and stay focused.

He will make it, no questions about it. Where he will is what bugs me.

For sure he shows great things though.

 

[Devourers]

Zykov, Sherback and De la rose is still a possibility though.


All in all, I'm not happy with this pick. A first rounder should be considered to be one of your top prospect after one year.

I don't even know if he's top 10 right now FFS

He would've been a perfect second round pick. Not a first rounder. And I know I was excited about him on draft day, just not in the 1st.

I remember a time where Subban, a 2nd round pick, was ranked around 18th. Point is these projections are meaningless. Wait 3-5 years and then we'll see who we all "would have preferred" cause right now who knows what they'll become.

 

[Treb]

Tinordi add Condon

 

[Timelord]

Scherbak, add Thrower.

DLR's nhl debut is imminent, while Scherbak is likely years away, but, even at this early stage in his development, he is at least as likely to make an impact eventually. He's got the positive attitude, size, high end talent, along with a knack for picking up languages. Anything else we need?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Went with Scherbak because his upside is #1 winger. Tinner is a #4 at best, while DLR will be a very good top 9 player.

Scherbak's skill is too good to overlook.

 

[NLHabsFan]

It's a toss up for me over the next few. Went with Tinordi, I like the whole package he can potentially bring. But it was close.

And holy hell, Cichy is still a prospect? LOL, seems like that guy has been around a long time.