2014 Draft Thread – Part Seven

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DAY 1: 2014 DRAFT – ROUND 1 – FRI JUN 27 – 7:00PM ET – NBCSN, TSN – CHAT

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Draft Pick & Thread​
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Wt.​
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Mediawatch​
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YouTube​
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Post-Draft​
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002​
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DAY 2: 2014 DRAFT – ROUNDS 2-7 – SAT JUN 28 – 10:00AM ET – NHLN-US, TSN – CHAT

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Draft Pick & Thread​
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Post-Draft​
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5​
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121​
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6​
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151​
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7​
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181​
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BUFFALO-CENTRIC NEWS & NOTES

Our 2014 Draft Threads


Part-1, Part-2, Part-3, Part-4, Part-5, Part-6, Part-7.

Articles, Blogs & Previews

Dec.26 – 2014 Draft Blog (Sabres.com)

May.22 – Isles make Sabres wait a year for first-rounder (John Vogl – Buffalo News)

May.31 – Ekblad’s ability could be tempting for Sabres (Mike Harrington – Buffalo News)

Jun.01 – Bennett, Ekblad, Reinhart all in mix to be top pick (Bill Hoppe – Olean Times Herald)

Jun.06 – WGR to air 17 consecutive hours of draft talk on June 27 (Kevin Snow – Sabres.com)

Jun.09 – Draft Party set for June 27 at First Niagara Center (Ian Ott – Sabres PR)

Jun.16 – Buffalo Sabres 2014 Draft Preview (Kris Baker – SabresProspects.com)

Jun.19 – Draft plan, money matters consume Sabres’ GM (John Vogl – Buffalo News)

Jun.19 – Sabres’ draft is all about Murray (Mike Harrington – Buffalo News)

Jun.20 – Murray focusing on center for top pick, ready to add FA (Bill Hoppe – Olean Times Herald)

Jun.20 – Sabres' Devine sees strength up front in 2014 draft (Mike Morreale – NHL.com)

Jun.21 – Superstar buzz lacking among top NHL Draft prospects (John Vogl – Buffalo News)

Jun.21 – Basement is no bargain for Sabres (John Vogl – Buffalo News)

Jun.25 – Top prospects ready for draft day (Chris Ryndak – Sabres.com)

Jun.25 – 2014 NHL Draft: The Stock Market (Kris Baker – SabresProspects.com)

Jun.26 – Interesting confusion at NHL Draft (Mike Harrington – Buffalo News)

Interviews & Pressers

Jun.18 – WGRZ: Tim Murray talks about Ville Leino, the draft and the future of the team. <10:10>

Jun.19 – Presser: Tim Murray speaks to the media at FNC in advance of the draft. <22:59>

Jun.19 – Tim Murray speaks with Brian Duff following Murray's press conference. <3:58>

Jun.19 – NHL Live: Tim Murray. <9:38>

Jun.21 – TPS: Aaron Vickers of Future Considerations. <17:40>

Jun.23 – Sirius XM’s NHL Draft Preview show: 30-21, 20-11, 10-1. <96:09>

Jun.24 – WGR: Dan Marr of Central Scouting. <11:57>

Jun.24 – WGR: Kris Baker of Sabres Prospects. <20:20>

Jun.24 – TPS: Ross MacLean of ISS: G, D, F1, F2, Sleepers. <81:06>

Jun.25 – WGR: AGM Kevin Devine. <8:00>​


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DRAFT GUIDE ROUNDUP

Latest Rankings


Button, CSS, DraftBuzz ($), ESPN ($), FC ($), HP ($), ISS ($), McKeen's ($), McKenzie, RLR ($),
Sportsnet, THN ($), THW.

Junior Resources

Buzzing the Net, CHN, DraftBuzz, DraftSite, ESPN ($), FC ($), HF, Hockey Prospectus, HP ($), LWS,
McKeen's ($), NEHJ, NHL.com, OHL Prospects, OHL Writers, Pipeline Show, RLR ($), Scout.ca ($),
Sportsnet, THN, THW, TSN, TSR, WHL From Above.

Mock Drafts (Tally: 24/50 with Sam Reinhart – List of Mocks)​


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SCOUTING COMBINE SUMMARY

2014 NHL Scouting Combine
(Toronto, ON)

May.28 – Combing the 2014 NHL Combine (Adam Kimelman & Mike Morreale – NHL.com)

May.31 – NHL Scouting Combine continues to evolve (Mike Morreale – NHL.com)

Jun.01 – 2014 Scouting Combine results

Jun.05 – Cullen: At the 2014 NHL Scouting Combine (Scott Cullen – TSN)​


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LOCAL TIES AMONG DRAFT-ELIGIBLE PROSPECTS

CSS Ranked Prospects

CSS​
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Pos.​
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Prospect​
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Team​
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Ht.​
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Wt.​
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Local/Team Ties​
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Mediawatch​
042​
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LD​
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Eden Prairie​
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6'0"​
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180​
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Uncle: Dave Snuggerud​
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123
075​
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LC​
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Sherbrooke​
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5'8"​
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175​
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Father: Donald Audette​
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123
097​
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LC​
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Portland​
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6'1"​
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198​
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Father: Pierre Turgeon​
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12
143​
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LC​
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Belleville​
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5'11"​
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184​
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Hometown: Welland, ON​
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1
176​
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RD​
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Kitchener​
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6'1"​
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193​
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Hometown: Cheektowaga, NY​
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12
181​
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RW​
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Penticton​
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6'2"​
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175​
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Father: Mike Ramsey​
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1
NR​
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LD​
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USNTDP​
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5'10"​
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176​
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Hometown: Spencerport, NY​
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Other 2013-14 Interviews & Press

Feb.16 – Draft stuff: Sabres bloodlines well-positioned (Kris Baker – Sabres Prospects)

Jun.21 – Draft hopefuls have familiar names to Sabres (Mike Harrington – Buffalo News)​
 
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TSN'S 2014 DRAFT RANKINGS: JAN. 23 & JUN. 23

Ranking: 1-10


Jan.​
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Jun.​
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Pos.​
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2014 Prospect​
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Team​
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Ht.​
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Wt.​
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HF​
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HFB​
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THW​
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YouTube​
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Mediawatch​
01​
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01​
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RD​
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Barrie​
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6'4"​
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216​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
02​
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02​
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RC​
| |
Kootenay​
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6'1"​
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185​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
|
1234567
03​
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03​
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LC​
| |
Kingston​
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6"1"​
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178​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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1234567
05​
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04​
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LC​
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Prince Albert​
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6'2"​
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208​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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12345678
04​
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05​
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LW​
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Oshawa​
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6'2"​
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183​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
07​
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06​
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LW​
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Peterborough​
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6'2"​
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218​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
10​
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07​
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LW​
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Calgary​
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6'0"​
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213​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
06​
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08​
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LD​
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Red Deer​
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6'3"​
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207​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
|
123456
11​
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09​
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RC/W​
| |
Modo​
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5'11"​
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169​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
|
1234567
15​
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10​
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LW​
| |
Halifax​
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5'11"​
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162​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567

Ranking: 11-20

Jan.​
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Jun.​
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Pos.​
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2014 Prospect​
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Team​
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Ht.​
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Wt.​
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HF​
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HFB​
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THW​
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YouTube​
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Mediawatch​
09​
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11​
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RW​
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Kalpa​
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5'11"​
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172​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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1234567
20​
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12​
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LC​
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USNTDP​
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6'1"​
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190​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
08​
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13​
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LW​
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Niagara​
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6'3"​
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205​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456|​
30​
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14​
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LC​
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Guelph​
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5'10"​
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166​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
24​
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15​
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LW​
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HV71​
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5'10"​
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180​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
12​
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16​
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LC​
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Sault Ste. Marie​
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6'0"​
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179​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
19​
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17​
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RW​
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USNTDP​
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6'4"​
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213​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
16​
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18​
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LW​
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USNTDP​
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6'0"​
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183​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
23​
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19​
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RW​
| |
Linkoping​
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5'11"​
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185​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
18​
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20​
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RD​
| |
Swift Current​
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5'11"​
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178​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
|
123456

Ranking: 21-30

Jan.​
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Jun.​
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Pos.​
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2014 Prospect​
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Team​
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Ht.​
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Wt.​
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HF​
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HFB​
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THW​
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YouTube​
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Mediawatch​
21​
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21​
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RW​
| |
Saskatoon​
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6'0"​
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172​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
|
123456
14​
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22​
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RW​
| |
Sodertalje​
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6'0"​
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167​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
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123456
13​
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23​
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LC/W​
| |
Moncton​
|
6'0"​
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185​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
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YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
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24​
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LD​
| |
Calgary​
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6'3"​
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181​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
17​
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25​
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RD​
| |
Kingston​
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6'1"​
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195​
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HF
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HFB
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THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
25​
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26​
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RC​
| |
Green Bay​
|
6'0"​
|
170​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
32​
|
27​
|
G​
| |
Boston College​
|
6'3"​
|
192​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
27​
|
28​
|
LC/W​
| |
Modo​
|
6'2"​
|
187​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
28​
|
29​
|
RC​
| |
Red Deer​
|
6'0"​
|
192​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
29​
|
30​
|
RC/W​
| |
Windsor​
|
5'11"​
|
166​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456

Ranking: 31-40

Jan.​
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Jun.​
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Pos.​
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2014 Prospect​
|
Team​
|
Ht.​
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Wt.​
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HF​
|
HFB​
|
THW​
|
YouTube​
|
Mediawatch​
26​
|
31​
|
RD​
| |
Sarnia​
|
5'11"​
|
175​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
39​
|
32​
|
LC​
| |
Brandon​
|
6'1"​
|
195​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
37​
|
33​
|
LW​
| |
Barrie​
|
6'1"​
|
209​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
36​
|
34​
|
LC​
| |
Kitchener​
|
6'3"​
|
175​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
33​
|
35​
|
RD​
| |
USNTDP​
|
6'2"​
|
185​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
35​
|
36​
|
LD​
| |
Skelleftea J20​
|
6'4"​
|
161​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
--​
|
123456
22​
|
37​
|
RW​
| |
Sarnia​
|
6'0"​
|
178​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
38​
|
LD​
| |
Slavia Praha U20​
|
6'2"​
|
189​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
--​
|
1234
31​
|
39​
|
LW​
| |
Frolunda J20​
|
6'2"​
|
187​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
40​
|
LW​
| |
Edmonton​
|
6'2"​
|
182​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456

Ranking: 41-50

Jan.​
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Jun.​
|
Pos.​
|
2014 Prospect​
|
Team​
|
Ht.​
|
Wt.​
|
HF​
|
HFB​
|
THW​
|
YouTube​
|
Mediawatch​
38​
|
41​
|
RC/W​
| |
Peterborough​
|
6'1"​
|
186​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
42​
|
42​
|
G​
| |
Plymouth​
|
6'0"​
|
195​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
43​
|
LC​
| |
Magnitogorsk​
|
6'2"​
|
198​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
44​
|
LD​
| |
Djurgarden​
|
6'3"​
|
189​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
--​
|
123456
43​
|
45​
|
LD​
| |
Swift Current​
|
6'1"​
|
197​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
44​
|
46​
|
RD​
| |
USNTDP​
|
6'3"​
|
182​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
HM​
|
47​
|
RW​
| |
Gatineau​
|
5'11"​
|
198​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
HM​
|
48​
|
LW​
| |
St. Andrew's​
|
6'1"​
|
175​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
NR​
|
49​
|
RC​
| |
Brandon​
|
5'10"​
|
186​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
46​
|
50​
|
RC​
| |
Dexter School​
|
6'0"​
|
176​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456

Ranking: 51-60

Jan.​
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Jun.​
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Pos.​
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2014 Prospect​
|
Team​
|
Ht.​
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Wt.​
|
HF​
|
HFB​
|
THW​
|
YouTube​
|
Mediawatch​
HM​
|
51​
|
RD​
| |
Calgary​
|
6'2"​
|
194​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
52​
|
RW​
| |
Oshawa​
|
6'7"​
|
220​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
HM​
|
53​
|
G​
| |
Charlottetown​
|
6'3"​
|
181​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
41​
|
54​
|
LD​
| |
Plymouth​
|
6'3"​
|
207​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
NR​
|
55​
|
RC​
| |
Val-d'Or​
|
5'11"​
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179​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
45​
|
56​
|
RD​
| |
USNTDP​
|
6'1"​
|
189​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1
|
123456
NR​
|
57​
|
RW​
| |
Chomutov​
|
5'11"​
|
167​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
--​
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
58​
|
RC​
| |
Moose Jaw​
|
5'10"​
|
160​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
THW
|
YT1YT2
|
123456
NR​
|
59​
|
RC​
| |
Portland​
|
6'0"​
|
216​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
--​
|
YT1YT2
|
1234567
HM​
|
60​
|
LD​
| |
Jr. Canadiens​
|
6'1"​
|
182​
|
HF
|
HFB
|
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Paxon

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Paxon

202* Stanley Cup Champions
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Top 10 results for each test: https://link.nhl.com/centralscouting/public/

I was going to post them all but there are nearly 30 tests and there's no convenient way to copy & paste. Not typing all of that out. Keep in mind that Central Scouting only releases these top 10 lists. To get full results we're going to have to hope someone publishes the information they received in attendance.

Interesting quirk that was also pointed out on the main board thread: Sonny Milano has the 6th-highest wingspan. That's crazy. Tied with the considerably bigger Draisaitl and Ekblad.

Here are the first 3 tests, since I already typed them out:
Anaerobic Fitness: Peak Power Output (watts/kg)
01. 1239.0 Kahkonen, Kaapo (Obviously a data input error. I'm sure he wasn't #1 either)
02. 17.5 Nylander, William
03. 16.8 Bleackley, Conner
04. 16.3 Gersich, Shane
05. 15.5 Kapanen, Kasperi
06. 15.3 Siebenaler, Blake
07. 15.2 Tkachev, Vladimi
08. 15.1 Foegele, Warren
09. 15.1 MacInnis, Ryan
10. 15.1 Bunting, Michael

Anaerobic Fitness: Mean Power Output (watts/kg)
01. 11.6 Nylander, William
02. 11.3 Kapanen, Kasperi
03. 11.3 Hawryluk, Jayce
04. 11.1 Schmaltz, Nick
05. 11.1 Kase, Ondrej
06. 11.0 Siebenaler, Blake
07. 11.0 Sadowy, Dylan
08. 11.0 Gersich, Shane
09. 10.9 Gendron, Miles
10. 10.9 MacInnis, Ryan

Anaerobic Fitness: Fatigue Index
01. 37.3 Dvorak, Christian
02. 39.6 Nedeljkovic, Alex
03. 40.8 Iacopelli, Matheson
04. 40.9 Husso, Ville
05. 40.9 Nantel, Julien
06. 42.9 Milano, Sonny
07. 43.4 McKeown, Roland
08. 43.6 Mistele, Mathew
09. 44.0 Sadowy, Dylan
10. 44.4 Glover, Jack
 

Tachycineta

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Ekblad seems like he has a really good head on his shoulders. I would not be disappointed if we drafted him even though we need offense.

Looks like it is time to wrap this puppy (thread) up...
 

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"we need offense" is the understatement of al understatements. Edmonton needs size and d a fraction as much as we need offense. We were record contending bad at scoring and have nothing great coming.
 

La Cosa Nostra

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Please keep #1 Florida and take Ekblad. Murray should offer Tallon #49 + 2 for 1. We get Reinhart and Florida can either take Ekblad at 2 with their extra 2nd they got from us or they can move down a few more spots picking up assets and still get Nylander or Ehlers. I really want Reinhart (or Ekblad). I don't want Bennett at all.
 

SundherDome

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His style of play and the team that he ends up going to. He plays very reckless and being weak in his upper body could result in various injuries. I'm not referencing the pull ups at all. He really reminds me of Gilbert Brule. And as far as Ho-Sang goes I'm keeping my opinion to myself because I'm sick of having to answer to it.
 

Bps21*

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All this "so we aren't getting Reinhart" stuff doesn't play the same to me and the others who prefer Bennett or draisaitl anyway. It changes nothing to me...id just take another center and congratulate Edmonton on their good fortune
 

EichHart

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In my opinion Reinhart + Ekblad have the least amount of bust potential out of anyone in the draft. At worst Reinhart can fill the defensive responsible 2C. (ALA Kesler/Pleks/Bergeron/Couturier) At best he is a Number 1 all purpose center that puts up 70-90 pts. Ekblads floor is a solid number 3, his upside is a number 1. Bennett/LD/and MDC all have far more bust potential than the top 2 guys.
 

jfb392

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His style of play and the team that he ends up going to. He plays very reckless and being weak in his upper body could result in various injuries. I'm not referencing the pull ups at all. He really reminds me of Gilbert Brule. And as far as Ho-Sang goes I'm keeping my opinion to myself because I'm sick of having to answer to it.
Hilarious, I can tell that the number of times you have actually seen him play can probably be counted on a single hand that has lost a digit or two in an unfortunate accident.
Referencing his upper body strength then immediately following it up with "I'm not referencing the pull ups at all" is an incredibly obvious giveaway, as likely no one would come away after watching him and saying "wow, he needs to get a lot stronger".
He was incredibly effective at his current level of strength.

If you're looking for the next Brulé, head northeast of Kingston and watch #17.
 

SundherDome

Y'all have to much power
Jul 6, 2009
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Minneapolis,MN
Hilarious, I can tell that the number of times you have actually seen him play can probably be counted on a single hand that has lost a digit or two in an unfortunate accident.
Referencing his upper body strength then immediately following it up with "I'm not referencing the pull ups at all" is an incredibly obvious giveaway, as likely no one would come away after watching him and saying "wow, he needs to get a lot stronger".
He was incredibly effective at his current level of strength.

If you're looking for the next Brulé, head northeast of Kingston and watch #17.

Cool, that was constructive.
 

stokes84

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Hilarious, I can tell that the number of times you have actually seen him play can probably be counted on a single hand that has lost a digit or two in an unfortunate accident.
Referencing his upper body strength then immediately following it up with "I'm not referencing the pull ups at all" is an incredibly obvious giveaway, as likely no one would come away after watching him and saying "wow, he needs to get a lot stronger".
He was incredibly effective at his current level of strength.

If you're looking for the next Brulé, head northeast of Kingston and watch #17.

Playing against teenagers. He needs to get a lot stronger. It is a legitimate concern.
 

jfb392

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Playing against teenagers. He needs to get a lot stronger. It is a legitimate concern.
Yes, but how would one know that his upper body strength is a cause for concern if they are not referring to his Combine performance?
No one thought that it was a serious issue prior to that because you could not tell from watching him.

He does need to get stronger, but does every other prospect too.
Reality is that this team won't be playing many meaningful games for the foreseeable future, so he has time.
 

stokes84

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Yes, but how would one know that his upper body strength is a cause for concern if they are not referring to his Combine performance?
No one thought that it was a serious issue prior to that because you could not tell from watching him.

He does need to get stronger, but does every other prospect too.
Reality is that this team won't be playing many meaningful games for the foreseeable future, so he has time.

Just look at the kid. I compared him to Kyle Turris in his draft year around when the midterm rankings, only because his body is so undeveloped, so it was definitely discussed.

Hell, you can look at as a positive if you want to because their is so much room for growth. But I'd be concerned about him playing in the NHL too soon, more so than the other three, especially given his play-style.
 

BananaSquad

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Man i just want the Sabres to be tough as hell to play against. Everyone here loves Girgensons and rightfully so. We have a chance to draft another "Girgensons" but with crazy upside and high end skill.
 

BananaSquad

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Just look at the kid. I compared him to Kyle Turris in his draft year around when the midterm rankings, only because his body is so undeveloped, so it was definitely discussed.

Hell, you can look at as a positive if you want to because their is so much room for growth. But I'd be concerned about him playing in the NHL too soon, more so than the other three, especially given his play-style.

I dont expect him to play in Buffalo for another year or 2, so whats the big deal here? Lots of time to get bigger, stronger and hell just better.
 

Beerz

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Yes they do. Some are further along than others though, obviously.


Right. And Bennett is the youngest.

Bennett will never be as big or strong as Dras..but he doesn't need to be as they play 2 different games.. Dras uses his size for possession and Bennett uses his skating and speed.

People are acting like Bennett is the size of Gerbe or Ennis ... he's not .. he'll be significantly bigger and stronger.

This knock blows my mind.
 

BananaSquad

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Right. And Bennett is the youngest.

Bennett will never be as big or strong as Dras..but he doesn't need to be as they play 2 different games.. Dras uses his size for possession and Bennett uses his skating and speed.

People are acting like Bennett is the size of Gerbe or Ennis ... he's not .. he'll be significantly bigger and stronger.

This knock blows my mind.

Ya its crazy. Bennett is 6'1
 

NotABadPeriod

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Man i just want the Sabres to be tough as hell to play against. Everyone here loves Girgensons and rightfully so. We have a chance to draft another "Girgensons" but with crazy upside and high end skill.

There are different ways to achieve this. There's the physical "you can't stop me" way. There's the cerebral "I can pick you apart" way (see: Crosby, Sidney). And of course mixes of the two.

The key is the attitude to show up every game and have the skill to go along with it, and nothing I've seen/heard makes me think any of the guys projected at the top lack that quality.
 
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