2014 ATD Assasination Thread - Bob Cole Division

[Hobnobs]

Post your full rosters here

Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
Jafar - Montreal Canadiens
Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings
LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs
SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles
Hobnobs - Rögle BK
Velociraptor - Belfast Giants

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[Hobnobs]

Coach: Anatoli Tarasov

George Hay - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion
Mats Näslund - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis
Craig Ramsay - Guy Carbonneau (A) - Joe Klukay
Dennis Hull - Thomas Steen - Wilf Paiement
Ryan Walter, Miroslav Satan

Nicklas Lidström (C) - Larry Murphy
Ulf Samuelsson - Bill White (A)
Ted Harris - Sandis Ozolinsh
Calle Johansson, Ed Jovanovski

Roy Worters
John Ross Roach

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion, Nicklas Lidström - Larry Murphy
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Bill White

PK1: Guy Carbonneau - Craig Ramsey, Nicklas Lidström - Bill White
PK2: Joe Klukay - Thomas Steen, Ulf Samuelsson - Ted Harris​

 

[Velociraptor]

Belfast Giants

General Manager: Velociraptor
Home Venue: Odyssey Arena

Head Coach: Fred Shero
Captain: Bobby Clarke
Assistant Captains: Art Coulter, Derian Hatcher

ROSTER

Doug Bentley - Bobby Clarke - Teemu Selanne
Fred "Bun" Cook - Eric Lindros - Ken Hodge
Kirk Muller - Don McKenney - Shane Doan
Gregg Sheppard - Steven Stamkos - Anders Hedberg

Paul Coffey - Art Coulter
Derian Hatcher - Jim Neilson
Zinetula Bilyaletdinov - Andrei Markov

Cecil "Tiny" Thompson
Curtis Joseph

Spares:
Bob Armstrong, D
Neal Broten, C
Pit Martin, C/RW
Alex Tanguay, LW

Powerplay:

PP1: Steven Stamkos - Bobby Clarke - Teemu Selanne
Doug Bentley - Paul Coffey

PP2: Bun Cook - Eric Lindros - Ken Hodge
Andrei Markov - Art Coulter

Penalty Kill:

PK1: Bobby Clarke - Gregg Sheppard
Derian Hatcher - Art Coulter

PK2: Don McKenney - Kirk Muller
Zinetula Bilyaletdinov - Jim Neilson

*PK3: Eric Lindros - Shane Doan
Derian Hatcher - Art Coulter

*If necessary​

Advice on special teams would be much appreciated as well!

 

[BraveCanadian]

Guelph Platers
1986 Memorial Cup Champions

Home Rink: Guelph Memorial Gardens (1948)
GM: BraveCanadian

Coaches: Al Arbour
Captain: Syl Apps
Alternates: Ron Francis, Zdeno Chara

Michel Goulet - Syl Apps - Mark Recchi
Kevin Stevens - Ron Francis - Zigmund Palffy
Dave Balon - Joel Otto - Ed Westfall
Bob Davidson - Ryan Getzlaf - Rick Vaive

Zdeno Chara - Bobby Orr
Duncan Keith - Ted Green
Rod Seiling - Pat Egan

Johnny Bower
Roberto Luongo


Reserves

D Al Arbour - C Jason Spezza - RW Andy Hebenton - RW/LW Al MacAdam


Powerplay:
PP1: Michel Goulet - Syl Apps - Mark Recchi - Zdeno Chara - Bobby Orr

PP2: Kevin Stevens - Ron Francis - Zigmund Palffy - Duncan Keith - Pat Egan


Penalty Kill:
PK1: Joel Otto - Ed Westfall - Zdeno Chara - Bobby Orr

PK2: Ron Francis - Bob Davidson - Duncan Keith - Ted Green

​

Estimated Minutes:

Forward| ES | PP | PK | total
Syl Apps|15 |4 |0 | 19
Michel Goulet|15|4|0|19
Mark Recchi|15|4|0|19

Ron Francis |13 |3 |3 | 19
Kevin Stevens |13 |3 |0 | 16
Zigmund Palffy |13|3 |0 | 16

Joel Otto |10|0|4|14
Dave Balon |10|0|0|10
Ed Westfall|10|0|4|14

Ryan Getzlaf |8|0|0|8
Bob Davidson |8|0|3|11
Rick Vaive |8|0|0|8
Total | 138 | 21 | 14 |173

Defense|ES|PP|PK|Total
Bobby Orr |18 |4 |4 | 26
Zdeno Chara |18 |4 |4 | 26
Duncan Keith |15 |3 |3 | 21
Ted Green |15 |0 |3 | 18
Rod Seiling |13 |0 |0 | 13
Pat Egan |13 |3 |0 |16
Totals|92|14|14|120

(of course Al Arbour gets the last say!)

 

[Leaf Lander]

Coach Mike Babcock

Captain: Esposito
Assistant : Chelios
Assistant : Hunter

Paul Kariya -Phil Esposito -Babe Dye
Dave Andreychuk - Pat Lafontaine -Alexander Mogilny
Dick Duff- Dale Hunter - Ron Ellis
Gaye Stewart - Doug Jarvis- Bill Goldsworthy
John Ferguson - Paul Henderson

Chris Chelios - Guy Lapointe
Sergie Gonchar- Vladimir Konstantinov
Wally Stanowski - Dion Phaneuf
Ron Greschner

Vladislav Tretiak
Vladamir Dzurilla
Andy Moog

PP Unit 1
Kariya - Esposito -Dye
Chelios -Gonchar

PP Unit 2
Andreychuk -LaFontaine- Mogilny
Lapointe- Phaneuf


PK Unit 1
Ellis -Hunter
Chelios -Stanowski

PK Unit 2
Duff -Jarvis
Lapointe - Konstantinov



First Line is a dream line. Esposito is a great leader who will score a ton of goals delivered by a great disher ala Kariya or via garbage goals if Babe Dye misses the net. Kariya loved to shoot but he was a great passer too.

2nd line. Actually played together for a season before Dave Andreychuk was traded to Toronto. Mogilny and Lafontaine were dynamo player all 3 players can score and they will mirror the 2 nd line deft passer, great shooter and garbage collector.

3rd line is my 2 way line all players can score defend and be a spark plug to energize the team. Passion and efforts

Line 4 is 2 way shut down line. If Gainey never played of the candies team Doug Jarvis would had won a few selke trophies. Gaye Stewart like all leafs of the 40 was at home at both ends of the rink and Goldsworthy brings a tough punishing element to the line


Defence:

I like my defence they are tough skilled mobile fast and hard hitting dman with above avg hockey IQ.

Goaltending

I have 3 great goalies that could be the #1 on any other team.

Coaching:

Mike Babcock can take any great players and win in a all star playoff format. He is a student of the game who is a professional first. A skilled task master 2 ndly and a superb motivator

Leadership : Esposito Hunter Andreychuk Chelios Hunter Konstantinov And Tretiak

 

[overpass]

Jafar's Montreal Canadiens. The lineup is as posted on Jafar's roster post.

Syd Howe - Howie Morenz - Boris Mikhailov (K)
Paul Thompson - Frank Fredrickson - Dave Taylor
Igor Liba - Cooney Weiland - Ernie Russell
Pavol Demitra - Doug Risebrough - Don Marcotte

Sprague Cleghorn - Frantisek Pospisil (A)
Jimmy Thomson - Jack Crawford
Teppo Numminen - Keith Magnuson

Frank Brimsek
Mike Richter

Spares: Ryan Smyth (F), Paul Haynes (F), Kenny Wharram (F), Jay Bouwmeester (D)​

 

[Velociraptor]

I plan on doing assassinations for each team in my division, quick note for your team, Hobnobs.

I'd do my best to have Geoffrion on the point on the PP, as that is his most valuable asset. Due to the lack of offensive depth on your right side I'd maybe try and slot Satan in there somewhere so he can find his way on the powerplay.

 

[Velociraptor]

Coach: Anatoli Tarasov

George Hay - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion
Mats Näslund - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis
Craig Ramsay - Guy Carbonneau (A) - Joe Klukay
Dennis Hull - Thomas Steen - Wilf Paiement
Ryan Walter, Miroslav Satan

Nicklas Lidström (C) - Larry Murphy
Ulf Samuelsson - Bill White (A)
Ted Harris - Sandis Ozolinsh
Calle Johansson, Ed Jovanovski

Roy Worters
John Ross Roach

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion, Nicklas Lidström - Larry Murphy
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Bill White

PK1: Guy Carbonneau - Craig Ramsey, Nicklas Lidström - Bill White
PK2: Joe Klukay - Thomas Steen, Ulf Samuelsson - Ted Harris​

Coaching/Leadership

Tarasov is a good coach, Nicklas Lidström is a great captain and won a championship with the C on his chest. White and Carbonneau serve as good assistant captains, all good here.

Forwards

Your first line has two-thirds of a fantastic makeup, I'm likely not alone in thinking George Hay is out of place on an ATD first line. Boucher-Geoffrion is one of the stronger first line duos and will provide offense, Hay is a decent two-way player however so he is a serviceable defensive conscience on the first line. Overall it's a decent line, but ideally a better LW would make a very strong first unit.

Second line should excel offensively, but there is not much of a defensive makeup on board. They might run into trouble against a defensively sound forward line or a line with a physical forward or two on it. Balderis is definitely a weapon on the right side and Perreault is a top-notch playmaker. Good scoring second line.

Your third line is my favorite checking line in the draft, they should have their way in most of their matchups. Don't expect much in terms of offense, but these guys will shut down opposing scoring until the final buzzer goes.

Decent fourth line, three good two-way players that could double as a scoring threat. It will likely see limited time, but it doesn't hurt to have scoring depth.

Walter and Satan are two decent spares, Walter has defensive ability and Satan is a pretty good scoring spare.

Defense

Lidström is an elite #1 and Larry Murphy was a real-life pairing that had strong chemistry. This is a solid pairing.

Samuelsson is a reckless physical defenseman that works on a second pairing, Bill White is solid defensively. This will be a tough unit to play against, White could also be the puck-mover on the unit.

Unspectacular third pairing, Harris is a pretty good #5 and Ozolinsh is a solid puck-mover.

Jovo is an alright spare in a 28-team draft, he does a lot of things well.

Goaltending

Worters is a middle of the pack goaltender. No proven playoff success is not overly reassuring, but he was consistently prominent throughout his career. I don't know much about Ross Roach but he doesn't seem like he's in over his head as a backup.

Special Teams

To reiterate, I'd much rather see Geoffrion play the point on the PP. Lidström-Murphy is a good pairing so maybe try and slot him on the second unit? Perhaps try and get Satan in the lineup so he can occupy the RW void on the PP. (Your call, just my 2 cents.)

PP Units look fine otherwise.

PK is very strong, could be your teams strongest asset.

Overall

Strongly built team, I think the top-six lacks some defensive composure besides Boucher, this may be a problem versus opponents who play a better defensive game. First two defensive units are strong and will be hard to score against, a likeable luxury to have to minimize prime scoring opportunities on Worters. This squad has potential to make some surprises in the post-season, good entry, Hobnobs.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

If Bill White can be a puck mover, who couldn't be?

 

[Hobnobs]

If Bill White can be a puck mover, who couldn't be?

He do have a 5th place in scoring amongst defenseman so hes not a black hole offensively. Most of his points were ES points too.

 

[Velociraptor]

If Bill White can be a puck mover, who couldn't be?

Ulf Samuelsson

 

[BraveCanadian]

Coach: Anatoli Tarasov

George Hay - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion
Mats Näslund - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis
Craig Ramsay - Guy Carbonneau (A) - Joe Klukay
Dennis Hull - Thomas Steen - Wilf Paiement
Ryan Walter, Miroslav Satan

Nicklas Lidström (C) - Larry Murphy
Ulf Samuelsson - Bill White (A)
Ted Harris - Sandis Ozolinsh
Calle Johansson, Ed Jovanovski

Roy Worters
John Ross Roach

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion, Nicklas Lidström - Larry Murphy
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Bill White

PK1: Guy Carbonneau - Craig Ramsey, Nicklas Lidström - Bill White
PK2: Joe Klukay - Thomas Steen, Ulf Samuelsson - Ted Harris​

Coaching & Leadership

Tasarov is a good coach here and has a reputation as an innovator and builder.

You can't pick a more steady and calming captain than Nik Lidstrom. He is a guy who appeared to lead by example and by letting his play stabilize the game at the pace his team wanted to play.

Carbonneau and White are guys with experience and savvy that are more relatable to us less than perfect humans.

Top 6

Boucher - Geoffrion is a great complementary duo who will do some damage for you. George Hay is meh.

Second line will put up some points but again I think Naslund on the left is weak in terms of resume offensively. I am a fan of his work ethic and defensive responsibility though. Perreault is a talent on his own and Balderis will do his part.

Bottom 6

Your third line is probably the best pure checking line in this thing.

Steen gives you another quality two-way center with some wingers who can score and put up some points. Good fourth line.

Defense

Lidstrom - Murphy is a strong pairing due to Lidstrom and their real chemistry. They will excel at puck possession and movement but I think Murphy is kind of pedestrian on an ATD 1st pairing and they sure arent going to wear down teams that cycle or play physically any.

Samuelsson - White is the exact opposite of your first pairing. Tough, gritty, physical and hemmed into their own zone more than average due to below average puck movement.

The third pairing has the right mix of skills but no one is going to win games based on their third pairings.


Goaltending

Worters is a middle of the pack goaltender overall and similar to my own Bower but without playoff dynasty credentials.

He wont be a strength or weakness.


PP

I agree with raptor... get Boom Boom on the point if you can but your options may limit you there.


PK

Strong. Especially that first unit.



Real good team outside a couple of things imo.

 

[markrander87]

Coach: Anatoli Tarasov

George Hay - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion
Mats Näslund - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis
Craig Ramsay - Guy Carbonneau (A) - Joe Klukay
Dennis Hull - Thomas Steen - Wilf Paiement
Ryan Walter, Miroslav Satan

Nicklas Lidström (C) - Larry Murphy
Ulf Samuelsson - Bill White (A)
Ted Harris - Sandis Ozolinsh
Calle Johansson, Ed Jovanovski

Roy Worters
John Ross Roach

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Bernie Geoffrion, Nicklas Lidström - Larry Murphy
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Bill White

PK1: Guy Carbonneau - Craig Ramsey, Nicklas Lidström - Bill White
PK2: Joe Klukay - Thomas Steen, Ulf Samuelsson - Ted Harris​

I must admit, I thought I had the best 3rd line in this thing. I thought wrong, that's an excellent checking line.

 

[Velociraptor]

Guelph Platers
1986 Memorial Cup Champions

Home Rink: Guelph Memorial Gardens (1948)
GM: BraveCanadian

Coaches: Al Arbour
Captain: Syl Apps
Alternates: Ron Francis, Zdeno Chara

Michel Goulet - Syl Apps - Mark Recchi
Kevin Stevens - Ron Francis - Zigmund Palffy
Dave Balon - Joel Otto - Ed Westfall
Bob Davidson - Ryan Getzlaf - Rick Vaive

Zdeno Chara - Bobby Orr
Duncan Keith - Ted Green
Rod Seiling - Pat Egan

Johnny Bower
Roberto Luongo


Reserves

D Al Arbour - C Jason Spezza - RW Andy Hebenton - RW/LW Al MacAdam


Powerplay:
PP1: Michel Goulet - Syl Apps - Mark Recchi - Zdeno Chara - Bobby Orr

PP2: Kevin Stevens - Ron Francis - Zigmund Palffy - Duncan Keith - Pat Egan


Penalty Kill:
PK1: Joel Otto - Ed Westfall - Zdeno Chara - Bobby Orr

PK2: Ron Francis - Bob Davidson - Duncan Keith - Ted Green

​

Estimated Minutes:

Forward| ES | PP | PK | total
Syl Apps|15 |4 |0 | 19
Michel Goulet|15|4|0|19
Mark Recchi|15|4|0|19

Ron Francis |13 |3 |3 | 19
Kevin Stevens |13 |3 |0 | 16
Zigmund Palffy |13|3 |0 | 16

Joel Otto |10|0|4|14
Dave Balon |10|0|0|10
Ed Westfall|10|0|4|14

Ryan Getzlaf |8|0|0|8
Bob Davidson |8|0|3|11
Rick Vaive |8|0|0|8
Total | 138 | 21 | 14 |173

Defense|ES|PP|PK|Total
Bobby Orr |18 |4 |4 | 26
Zdeno Chara |18 |4 |4 | 26
Duncan Keith |15 |3 |3 | 21
Ted Green |15 |0 |3 | 18
Rod Seiling |13 |0 |0 | 13
Pat Egan |13 |3 |0 |16
Totals|92|14|14|120

(of course Al Arbour gets the last say!)

Time to give the Guelph Platers a shot!

Coaching and Leadership

You can do no wrong have Al Arbour as your head coach, he's in the elite category. He's a proven winner and he knows how to get his guys to dial it in. Apps is a good captain, and Francis is a very good assistant captain. Big Z captained a cup-winner, good crew but not a lot of supporting cast as leaders.

Forwards

Pretty solid first line, Apps is a good playmaker and you've got two solid finishers in Goulet and Recchi. At the ATD level, I wouldn't say Recchi is anything more than passable defensively, but he's surely up to speed offensively. Goulet is a good guy to have on the boards/in the corners.

Francis, as we both know is a very potent two-way player, nice to guy to have centering a second line. Palffy and Stevens are good guys to have on the wings, they will be fluid offensively largely in part to their centre.

Balon is a decent checker, Otto is a tough-as-nails centre to play against and Westfall is a defensive stalwart. Pretty good third line, don't expect much offensively but they'll be a strong checking unit.

Getzlaf is a pretty solid 4th line centre given his career value, Vaive is a net-filler so having Getz feeding him pucks is a plus. Davidson possesses a few valuable intangibles, decent fourth liner.

Defense

Not much needs to be said about the first pairing, they'll be dominant any way you slice it.

I still think Keith is best-suited for bottom-pairing play in the ATD but I don't think he was too much of a stretch where you got him. He won't be a liability, Ted Green is a tough customer who is a good complement for Keith.

Egan was ruthless, and Seiling isn't out of a place as a #6. Pairing doesn't have to be spectacular.

Goaltending

Bower is a decent starter, always thought he was overrated but he probably went where he should have this time around. Lu is one of my all-time favorites, he's a solid backup.

Special Teams

Really nice first PP unit. Second unit looks fine.

PK units solid as well.

Overall

Kudos, BC. I really like this team, no real glaring flaws. Definitely a balanced team that could roll some heads in the post-season.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Overall

Kudos, BC. I really like this team, no real glaring flaws. Definitely a balanced team that could roll some heads in the post-season.

Thanks for the review. That is really what I was going for after having a strength like Orr at #1: Not having any big mistakes or, as I like to call them after last year, no Bert Corbeau moments.

Having Orr, I figured just surround him with a good cast so he can do his thing and at the same time have enough support that it isn't *just* him.

This is the team I am most happy with in my ATDs so far. I really liked the second one too and it went nowhere so I guess we'll see what happens!

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

Thanks for the review. That is really what I was going for after having a strength like Orr at #1: Not having any big mistakes or, as I like to call them after last year, no Bert Corbeau moments.

Having Orr, I figured just surround him with a good cast so he can do his thing and at the same time have enough support that it isn't *just* him.

This is the team I am most happy with in my ATDs so far. I really liked the second one too and it went nowhere so I guess we'll see what happens!

It should be pretty easy to like the team you put together when you have Orr, but you did a real solid job and got him the best partner far and away I've ever seen for him. For some reason, Orr has been on teams with really bad depth in the ATD a lot, this year I think he's on a contender.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Belfast Giants

General Manager: Velociraptor
Home Venue: Odyssey Arena

Head Coach: Fred Shero
Captain: Bobby Clarke
Assistant Captains: Shane Doan, Derian Hatcher

ROSTER

Doug Bentley - Bobby Clarke - Teemu Selanne
Fred "Bun" Cook - Eric Lindros - Ken Hodge
Kirk Muller - Don McKenney - Shane Doan
Gregg Sheppard - Steven Stamkos - Anders Hedberg

Paul Coffey - Art Coulter
Derian Hatcher - Jim Neilson
Zinetula Bilyaletdinov - Andrei Markov

Cecil "Tiny" Thompson
Curtis Joseph

Spares:
Bob Armstrong, D
Neal Broten, C
Pit Martin, C/RW
Alex Tanguay, LW

Powerplay:

PP1: Steven Stamkos - Bobby Clarke - Teemu Selanne
Doug Bentley - Paul Coffey

PP2: Bun Cook - Eric Lindros - Ken Hodge
Andrei Markov - Art Coulter

Penalty Kill:

PK1: Bobby Clarke - Gregg Sheppard
Derian Hatcher - Art Coulter

PK2: Don McKenney - Kirk Muller
Zinetula Bilyaletdinov - Jim Neilson​

Advice on special teams would be much appreciated as well!

Coaching & Leadership

Love Fred Shero.. what a character, innovator and proven winner. Proven with the captain you have in Clarke as well.

Hate Clarke's guts but he has the resume and as we all know will do anything to win. Hatcher and Doan are so-so in an ATD sense as A's imo.


Top 6

Your top six is just plain strong.

Bentley - Clarke - Selanne has a great balance between the playmaking of Bentley-Clarke and the shooting of Bentley - Selanne. Defenses won't be able to cheat by assuming who is going to carry, get, or shoot the puck. Not only that Derian Hatcher is glad he is on this team because the speed on the outside with Bentley and Selanne would blow right past him. They will be very dangerous. The only downsides I can think of are not liking your idea of Clarke covering for Coffey because Coffey was very dangerous coming late as the 4th man.. and Clarke not really having anything resembling a bodyguard for when he gets up to his antics.

Cook - Lindros - Hodge is another well constructed line imo. The size, work ethic and skill on this line will be tough for teams to handle.


Bottom 6

You're deep in skill at center with a third liner like Don McKenney. I love Kirk Muller, but he is one of those guys who are hard to peg in the ATD because similarly to Yzerman he started off offensive and turned defensive. He didn't ever peak anywhere near Yzerman in either category but he was awesome in other ways -- along the boards, gritty, and not afraid to take out the garbage. Doan has size and skill and grit too. I'm guessing you're going for a solid all around and they are pretty good in that role. Some scoring, some defense, good size and grit along the boards.

The fourth line is your leftover parts with a wildcard in Stamkos. He has an incredible resume and only length of career is holding him back.

Defense

Coffey - Coulter looks familiar. Same pairing I had when I drafted Coffey and tried to build a speed skating offensive team. Coulter is a great match for Coffey.

I'm a lot higher on Coffey than most people around here. He is a high risk / high reward player but a proven winner. You have to play to his strengths to get the reward from having him.

My only concern is that your #1 center is a playmaker rather than a more balanced scorer or a just plain goalscorer. Coffey made centermen who could score into more than they were. That being said.. the next three centermen on your team should benefit quite a bit from finding themselves the puck in full flight towards the enemy. And Clarke will have one of the best, if not the best, player coming late to hit with a pass from behind the net.

Hatcher - Nielson

Never been that great a fan of Hatcher. In my opinion, in any league that didn't allow clutch and grab and can openers and the like he would be much less effective. That being said we have to kind of go with what he accomplished when he did play in an era that happened to favour him. He is big, nasty, crease clearing and just good enough with the puck to not be a problem. Nielson is a good match for Hatcher because he does have better mobility and is better with the puck while also being solid defensively. Good solid pairing.

Third pairing I like the way they complement each other.. Markov is another guy I have a tough time getting a real read on.. he has made a big difference on Montreal's powerplay but has missed a lot of time too.


Goaltending

Tiny/Cujo is a very solid tandem.. personally I think Cujo is quite underrated due to circumstances since he never hoisted the Cup and I suppose Tiny may be as well.





PP

The weapons on your first PP are just awesome.


PK

Solid.


I think you have a top 6 that is fearsome in that is brings a lot of skill and a mixture of speed and size/brawn. I think it will be a strength that your top two lines are that strong but in different ways.

How well you do will depend on the voters perceptions of Coffey imo. Yet another good team in this years draft.

 

[Velociraptor]

Appreciate the review, BC.

Coaching & Leadership

Hate Clarke's guts but he has the resume and as we all know will do anything to win. Hatcher and Doan are so-so in an ATD sense as A's imo.

Just wondering why you'd consider Doan and Hatcher 'so-so' assistant captains? One captained a cup winner and the other has been a captain for 11 seasons. I think a big strength of this team is leadership (Clarke, Doan, Hatcher, Coulter, Muller, McKenney, Lindros)

My only concern is that your #1 center is a playmaker rather than a more balanced scorer or a just plain goalscorer. Coffey made centermen who could score into more than they were. That being said.. the next three centermen on your team should benefit quite a bit from finding themselves the puck in full flight towards the enemy. And Clarke will have one of the best, if not the best, player coming late to hit with a pass from behind the net.

I can see where you're coming from. However, with the luxury of having three playmakers on my first line, as well as three guys that can put the puck in the net. I do think this works to my advantage, Clarke is the primary playmaker of the line, yes, but Bentley and Selanne are also adept at setting up goals, Clarke can be utilized as a goal-scorer in any situation especially having a fourth playmaker in Coffey on the back-end.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Appreciate the review, BC.



Just wondering why you'd consider Doan and Hatcher 'so-so' assistant captains? One captained a cup winner and the other has been a captain for 11 seasons. I think a big strength of this team is leadership (Clarke, Doan, Hatcher, Coulter, Muller, McKenney, Lindros)

Please don't use Eric Lindros as a good example of leadership

I really think you need to give Coulter a letter, probably over Doan. Not that Doan is a bad leader, but Coulter was a legendary one.

 

[Velociraptor]

Please don't use Eric Lindros as a good example of leadership

I really think you need to give Coulter a letter, probably over Doan. Not that Doan is a bad leader, but Coulter was a legendary one.

He would be secondary if anything I feel like he'd act less like a king with Shero behind the bench.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Just wondering why you'd consider Doan and Hatcher 'so-so' assistant captains? One captained a cup winner and the other has been a captain for 11 seasons. I think a big strength of this team is leadership (Clarke, Doan, Hatcher, Coulter, Muller, McKenney, Lindros)

Mostly because there are better choices on your own team. Coulter appears to be easily better than Doan as an A like TDMM said.

As I said I'm not a huge fan of Hatcher but he does have the checkbox on his resume for captained cup winner so he's fine.

I can see where you're coming from. However, with the luxury of having three playmakers on my first line, as well as three guys that can put the puck in the net. I do think this works to my advantage, Clarke is the primary playmaker of the line, yes, but Bentley and Selanne are also adept at setting up goals, Clarke can be utilized as a goal-scorer in any situation especially having a fourth playmaker in Coffey on the back-end.

In all honesty the reason I said what I did is because Clarke is a lousy 1st line goalscorer at this level.

Obviously his playmaking, defense and competitive spirit make him a solid 1st liner overall but he isn't the ideal center for Coffey to catch breaking with a long pass. That is all I meant.

As I said before though -- on the other hand Coffey is ideal for coming late and receiving a pass from deep in the offensive zone from Clarke. So at least you have that working.

 

[Hobnobs]

How about

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Helmut Balderis, Nicklas Lidström - Bernie Geoffrion
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Wilf Paiement, Sandis Ozolinsh - Larry Murphy

or

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Wilf Paiement, Nicklas Lidström - Bernie Geoffrion
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Larry Murphy

 

[BraveCanadian]

How about

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Helmut Balderis, Nicklas Lidström - Bernie Geoffrion
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Wilf Paiement, Sandis Ozolinsh - Larry Murphy

or

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Wilf Paiement, Nicklas Lidström - Bernie Geoffrion
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Larry Murphy

As much as I am a fan of both Naslund and Steen.. they would be weak links on those units and I can't decide if the bonus of Geoffrion and Murphy on the points outweighs them.

 

[Velociraptor]

How about

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Helmut Balderis, Nicklas Lidström - Bernie Geoffrion
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Wilf Paiement, Sandis Ozolinsh - Larry Murphy

or

PP1: Mats Näslund - Frank Boucher - Wilf Paiement, Nicklas Lidström - Bernie Geoffrion
PP2: Thomas Steen - Gilbert Perreault - Helmut Balderis, Sandis Ozolinsh - Larry Murphy

With Geoffrion on the point its gotta be Balderis as the 1st unit RW, Paiement is a little bit weak on an ATD PP IMO.

 

[Hobnobs]

With Geoffrion on the point its gotta be Balderis as the 1st unit RW, Paiement is a little bit weak on an ATD PP IMO.

Paiement was actually a pretty solid PP contributer but I agree his record might still be a little weak for a 1st ATD PP unit.