Speculation: 2014-15 Stars Trade Talk

[BeaverSports]

There are some reports circulating on Sportsnet that Brian Campbell is about to be moved from Florida. Would Nill have the cap flexibility to make a move there? I know he is probably overpaid for what he does, but he could help the back end.

Note: Is this the right place for trade speculation, under roster moves? If not, mods please move.

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[BigG44]

If you traded Gonchar (30% retained) and Cole (33.38% retained), you could 100% cover the cost of adding Campbell and McKenzie today.

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster

FORWARDS
Jamie Benn ($5.250m) / Tyler Seguin ($5.750m) / Valeri Nichushkin ($0.925m)
Curtis McKenzie ($0.645m) / Jason Spezza ($7.000m) / Ales Hemsky ($4.000m)
Antoine Roussel ($2.000m) / Cody Eakin ($1.900m) / Ryan Garbutt ($1.800m)
Shawn Horcoff ($5.500m) / Vernon Fiddler ($1.250m) / Colton Sceviour ($0.650m)
Patrick Eaves ($0.650m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Trevor Daley ($3.300m) / Alex Goligoski ($4.600m)
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Brenden Dillon ($1.250m)
Jordie Benn ($0.700m) / Patrik Nemeth ($0.763m)
Kevin Connauton ($0.683m) /

GOALTENDERS
Kari Lehtonen ($5.900m)
Anders Lindback ($0.925m)

BUYOUTS
Aaron Rome ($0.000m)

LTIR
Rich Peverley ($3.250m)

RETAINED SALARIES (4.35% of upper limit)
Sergei Gonchar ($1.500m—30.00%)
Erik Cole ($1.502m—33.38%)

BONUS OVERAGE
NaN

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(estimations for 2014-15 crunched using simulation date of 2014-10-16)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; BONUSES: $1,361,667
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,428,822

 

[Frozen Failure]

Florida would have to take Gonchar back at 100%.

 

[BigG44]

If you retained 50% of Cole and 10.04% of Gonchar in that trade, you'd be doing an even swap of money. The bonus is Dallas would get a bit more cap space.

$3,678,922 instead of $3,428,822. That extra $250K in space would give you an extra $1 million at the deadline in acquisition space. Assuming Peverley came of LTIR, Dallas would have about $1.715 million in deadline acquisition space. If they also sent McKenzie back down when he came off, depending on when he came off, you could add another $300K to $500K bringing you closer to $2 million in space.

If that happened though, Pevs healthy, I can't imagine really many ways they could improve the roster unless they were willing to trade Garbutt.

Benn-Seguin-Peverley
Nichushkin-Spezza-Hemsky
Roussel-Eakin-Garbutt
Eaves/Horcoff-Fiddler-Sceviour

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

Might as well get this thread started after we had five of em last season.

 

[BigG44]

Might as well get this thread started after we had five of em last season.

Will you move my retained salary scenarios over here? Thanks.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

Will you move my retained salary scenarios over here? Thanks.

Done.

 

[bug]

Are they not wanting to trade him so they can dump his salary for this year and next?

Seems like the price wouldn't be TOO high if they just want him off their books.

 

[BigG44]

They have D prospects they want to open a spot for. The last thing they're worried about is cap space.

They also get the significant benefit of removing $7.143 million from their payroll next season. Nearly any team they do a trade with is going to require even money in and out this year. The majority would also seek relief next year, but Dallas wouldn't need it.

 

[Arno Dorian*]

Normally, I would say "no thanks" to Campbell, but this team needs an offensive minded defenseman.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

This team needs a guy that can just hit the net from the blue line.

 

[Arno Dorian*]

This team needs a guy that can just hit the net from the blue line.

For sure. Somebody call Jim Nill's Mustache!

 

[Zrhutch]

Campbell would be just what the doctor ordered. Sign me up

 

[Satan]

See, I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum. I wouldn't mind having someone who could actually play defense.

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

See, I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum. I wouldn't mind having someone who could actually play defense.

 

[MBTendy]

Nemeth has quietly been very solid for us since joining the team last year, and his play has followed through this year.

 

[Satan]

He didn't even play 1/3rd of the game. I mean, he'll develop into a solid defenseman (knock on wood) but it's not enough.

 

[BigG44]

See, I'm at the opposite side of the spectrum. I wouldn't mind having someone who could actually play defense.

Ideally they obviously need a Lidstrom type defender that can do it all, but I tend to agree with Lobo here. Trust guys like Nemeth and Dillon are going to keep getting better. Nemeth looked awesome IMO tonight.

Be a bit more impatient on the offensive side from the back end. Klingberg and Honka aren't close to ready for full time duty. A really great short term option would be wonderful.

 

[Satan]

Johnny Boychuk would've been so perfect.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Well we thought we were getting just that with Goligoski, but obviously that hasn't quite been the case.

Campbell is an intriguing option....plus it would be kind of fun to have the possibility of two Campbells on the ice at the same time.

Would they even need the first initial on the back, since one is a goalie?

 

[Satan]

Jamie and Jordie don't do initials

 

[Stars99Lobo37]

Johnny Boychuk would've been so perfect.

Agreed.

 

[MBTendy]

Well we thought we were getting just that with Goligoski, but obviously that hasn't quite been the case.

Campbell is an intriguing option....plus it would be kind of fun to have the possibility of two Campbells on the ice at the same time.

Would they even need the first initial on the back, since one is a goalie?

Care to elaborate? IMO Goose has been very good for us and took his game to the next level last season

 

[BigG44]

I posted a version of this earlier in the general thread, but it's relevant to today's discussion. I'll just paraphrase mostly ... but this is rosterbating at it's finest.

Obviously next year ....

Jamie Benn| Tyler Seguin| Brett Ritchie
$5,250,000| $5,750,000| $894,167
Val Nichushkin| Jason Spezza| Ales Hemsky
$2,125,000| $6,750,000| $4,000,000
Cody Eakin |Joe Thornton| Colton Sceviour
$1,900,000| $6,750,000| $650,000
Antoine Roussel| Vern Fiddler| Ryan Garbutt
$2,000,000| $1,250,000| $1,800,000
Veteran Depth||
$650,000||

Alex Goligoski| Brenden Dillon
$4,600,000 | $2,750,000
Brian Campbell| Patrik Nemeth
$7,142,875 | $1,250,000
Jordie Benn |Jamie Oleksiak
$700,000 | $1,250,000
Jyrki Jokipakka |John Klingberg
$750,000 | $950,000

Kari Lehtonen
$5,900,000
Jussi Rynnas
$562,500

You'd have to get rid of one D in that scenario so I went with Daley. If it was Jordie that'd be fine too. With Daley out though, the total cap hit for that team is only $65,624,542, and that includes full bones for Val and Ritchie (not likely they hit all of them). If you swapped Benn for Daley, the cap hit is still only $68,224,542.

I tried to go as unlikely HIGH as possible to new contracts with the exception of Spezza. It's pretty amazing to consider you could afford that team next, and they'd be below this year's cap. Next year because of the Rogers contract, the cap should go up several more million dollars than normal. There's likely no way Dillon, Oleksiak, Nemeth, Jyrkipakka, and Klingberg would could collectively that much against the cap. It's reasonable to assume at least one would potentially be gone for Thornton or Campbell.

Honestly ... I'd say that D would be good enough to at least put them in consideration for Cup contenders considering the forwards.

Goligoski-Daley
Campbell-Dillon
Nemeth-Oleksiak/Klingberg/Jokipakka/Benn

 

[Satan]

Joe Thornton playing 3C

Cmon G