Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster-building Thread XII : All I want for Christmas is WINGERS

[Riptide]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.

2014-2015 salary ceiling: ....69,000,000
Projected cap spending: ......68,733,167
Projected cap space: ...............175,000
Projected deadline space: ......1,547,198


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

27​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

26​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

27​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

34​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

25​

|

3,300,000​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Spaling|

LW​

|

25​

|

2,200,000​

|

2,200,000​

|

UFA​

Marcel Goc|

C​

|

30​

|

1,200,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Downie|

RW​

|

27​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Beau Bennett|

LW​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

24​

|

874,125​

|

RFA​

Blake Comeau|

LW​

|

28​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

37​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Zach Sill|

C​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

27​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

33​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Christian Ehrhoff|

D​

|

32​

|

4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

35​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

Simon Despres|

D​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

19​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Robert Bortuzzo|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie...................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

29​

|

5,000,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Thomas Greiss|

G​

|

28​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Injured reserve......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

35​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

21​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

22​

|

655,000​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

23​

|

626,667​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

20​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

21​

|

601,667​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

22​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

20​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

31​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense..............................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

20​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

22​

|

831,667​

|

RFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

21​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Philip Samuelsson|

D​

|

22​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Taylor Chorney|

D​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie................................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

20​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

27​

|

600,000​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

WHEELING NAILERS

Defense........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie...........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Kasperi Kapanen|

RW​

|

18​

|

KalPa (Liiga)​

|

3 years/925,000 per​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

20​

|

SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​

|

3 years/708,333 per​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

19​

|

Edmonton (WHL)​

|

3 years/650,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

18​

|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

18​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

19​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

19​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

19​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

20​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

19​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

18​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

21​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

24​

|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

20​

|Union (ECAC)

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[WayneSid9987]

All i want for Christmas is WINGERS.

 

[penguins2946*]

I wonder if Sundqvist will get a shot in the bottom-6 once his season is over. We have already burned a year off his ELC, so it wouldn't matter like it would with Kapanen.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

 

[IcedCapp]

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

duh.

 

[Shrimper]

I wonder if Sundqvist will get a shot in the bottom-6 once his season is over. We have already burned a year off his ELC, so it wouldn't matter like it would with Kapanen.

We burned a year of his ELC? When?

 

[Ugene Magic]

I'll make a ridiculous trade proposal to start off.

Sutter, Scuderi, Pouliot, Dumoulin, 1st 2015

For

Eric Staal, and Victor Rask

I don't know which would be more funny. Jordan Staal being left on an Island alone by his brother after picking to go there with him, or Sutter being traded twice by JR back to their old team?

Carolina should be in rebuild mode on the serious side of things. *McDavid*

They are that bad.

 

[penguins2946*]

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

We burned a year of his ELC? When?

Sending him to the SHL burned a year off his ELC due to the age when he signed his contract.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

Who knows what's wrong with him. Maybe Dallas is a really bad fit or maybe it's the contract. tbh, I find proposals like this interesting. Swapping Scuderi for a contract that's looking bad. Sure, there's a risk involved but still.

I'd probably do it, comparable cap hits, same number of years, opens up a roster spot for a defenseman and a position of need. Plus I wanted Hemsky in the off season.

 

[Tumty]

I'll make a ridiculous trade proposal to start off.

Sutter, Scuderi, Pouliot, Dumoulin, 1st 2015

For

Eric Staal, and Victor Rask

I don't know which would be more funny. Jordan Staal being left on an Island alone by his brother after picking to go there with him, or Sutter being traded twice by JR back to their old team?

Carolina should be in rebuild mode on the serious side of things. *McDavid*

They are that bad.

Never.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

I don't even like Hemsky and I'd do that.

 

[Boocock]

To Rowdy Roddy Pepper:

In November. Against a team with a 7-13-3 record.

It's still a very good sign of things to come. It's clear that Malkin and Comeau are developing chemistry.

Kunitz is having a rough start to the year, but I'm not about to concede his top 6 spot in the playoffs to a tweener like Tlusty just yet.

Tlusty is not a tweener; he's a legit top-six option. Kunitz on the third line gives this team three legit scoring lines. If we have the depth to take advantage of that, we ought to.

Pretty slow line though.

This isn't exactly a slow unit as a whole. Goc and Spaling can both skate. Yes, Downie is a little slow, but it's not enough to hurt the team.

To JTG

Jagr rises when he is relied upon. If he isn't getting top forward mins, primo PP time, and working the position on the unit he wants, you're not going to get the most out of him.

I'm not so sure about that. His power play minutes on New Jersey haven't been that substantial. In fact, he's, sort of, on the 2nd PP unit now (NJD really runs two units for equal minutes, but Jagr has seemed to be on the short end of the stick since Cammalleri came back. On the 2nd PP unit in Pittsburgh, he'd surely be able to work his favorite position.

 

[billybudd]

Hemsky is neither big nor particularly fast and doesn't score very many goals (fancy stickhandling is nice to look at, but goals borne of that are low frequency events and all-but nonexistent in the playoffs, unless you're Datsyuk, Kane or Malkin...Hemsky is none of those).

Maybe Dallas is a bad fit for him, but he's a bad fit for us, too. He's better in a top six than Spaling, I guess, but that's not really saying a lot. With everyone healthy, Spaling would be on the fourth line.

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

Then again, making it pretty tough to not bite here. I'd take that, even if it was just to trade Hemsky somewhere else for a third once people start getting back in the lineup and/or a real acquisition is made.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

It's still a very good sign of things to come. It's clear that Malkin and Comeau are developing chemistry.

They're doing well right now. We're a few games in and Comeau hasn't been a consistent scorer for years. A lot of people putting the cart before the horse here.

Tlusty is not a tweener; he's a legit top-six option. Kunitz on the third line gives this team three legit scoring lines. If we have the depth to take advantage of that, we ought to.

Tlusty has produced at virtually the exact same pace as Stempniak last season and this year. I don't look at that as a legit top 6 option, and certainly not enough to usurp Kunitz at this point, crappy as he's been.

This isn't exactly a slow unit as a whole. Goc and Spaling can both skate. Yes, Downie is a little slow, but it's not enough to hurt the team.

Enh, neither Spaling nor Goc are any better than average skaters, and neither are physical either. Not exactly what I'd look for in an energy line. Then again, it's not like we have burners or beasts on the 4th right now either.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

I've come around on the subject of Alex Killorn.

It's too early to tell for sure, but it looks like at age 25, he may have actually turned the corner. Props to whoever mentioned his name first during the offseason.

I admit I was not convinced he was a legitimate top 6er at the time. He was a 40 point player as a 24 year old, nothing more, but I conceded that there was a chance he could still develop as he had only played 120 total NHL games before this season, so I admitted that perhaps he was still learning on the fly.

And while it's still too early to say for sure, his stats so far this season, mainly from a third/second line role, and the eye test both indicate that he may indeed be a legitimate second line winger.

Perhaps if we light Tampa up again, they would be willing to trade Killorn+ for Martin. If Killorn keeps up his current level of play, we could certainly do a lot worse than:

Kunitz-Crosby-Hornqvist
Comeau-Malkin-Killorn

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I would do that hypothetical Scuderi/Hemsky swap in a heartbeat. I realize he's had a terrible start to the season and not too many people seem sold on the prospect of him producing on this team, either. But I feel like he'd be a better fit than just about anything else we've seen in, well... years.

Plus, no movement clauses in Hemsky's contract, AFAIK. And his AAV isn't exactly devastating. I doubt it would be a huge deal to offload him if it came to it. I think Dallas would obviously balk at the deal, though.

To be fair, I'd take just about anything resembling a top six forward at this point, though. Especially if it meant ridding the team of Scuderi's contract.

 

[SEALBound]

Hornqvist in the middle/net, letang on left point, Malkin on right point, Jagr on the left wall, Sid low left/goal line.

The PP is workable with Jagr.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Yeah, but where do they put Kunitz?

Because we all know Kunitz must be on the first unit.

 

[penguins2946*]

I wonder what it would take to get Pavelski from San Jose. Maybe Martin, Pouliot and a 1st? Then San Jose would move Martin for futures. Pavelski and Malkin would be a good combination, and Pavelski can slide to center if we need him to.

 

[Riptide]

How about this:

Martin and a conditional 2016 pick to Montreal for Parenteau and a 2015 1st (rumored deal at the draft with a conditional pick if he re-signs)

Not bad IMO.

How many D do you think Montreal needs? They just acquired Gonchar and Allen...

If N Foligno only gets 4.5 million why isn't CBJ re-signing him? Same question for Tlusty in CAR.

Are you just assuming the player doesn't want to re-sign? Is there any evidence of that?

He's likely going to get more than that - although depending on how much term he gets, that might be in the ball park. Realistically I see him in the 5m+ range depending on term.

Players sign and re-sign with bad teams all the time. I was just wondering if there was something specific that made it more likely that these two players would be available.

Hopes and dreams.

They only way they resign with a bad team is if the money is too ridiculous to pass up. I don't see Foligno signing in CBJ for less than 5.5-6, which is basically what RyJo got and I doubt they're going to give him that. Carolina is just too cheap to pay up so...

Not true at all. Players sign/re-sign for all sorts of reasons. Sometimes they just don't want to change things up & and are comfortable there. Or their family doesn't want to leave. Or a combination of the above... mixed in with a fair offer, and it makes it easy to stay. Especially if the team in question is a young team on the rise like Columbus.

I'd love to get Foligno... but I suspect he'd cost a 1st+. Realistically I just don't see Columbus looking to move him, vs trying to re-sign him. I think the only question there is how much can they afford to pay him.

 

[BobCole]

I wonder what it would take to get Pavelski from San Jose. Maybe Martin, Pouliot and a 1st? Then San Jose would move Martin for futures. Pavelski and Malkin would be a good combination, and Pavelski can slide to center if we need him to.

I don't think anybody's prying Pavelski or Couture away from San Jose. They could sell one of Thornton or Marleau, though.

 

[Riptide]

What the heck is wrong with Hemsky this season?

If you could trade Scuderi for Hemsky, would you?

Easy yes. Absolute worse case he's a skilled guy who can play a 2 way game on the 3rd line. Best case he's a skilled guy that can play in our top 6. In either case, it moves Scuderi's contract off our blueline and gets Bortuzzo into the game full time, and allows one of Harrington/Dumoulin to slide in as the 7th guy.

I think Dallas would obviously balk at the deal, though.

Maybe... maybe not. They owe him 8m over the next 2 seasons... Scuderi makes 5.5m. To buy Hemsky out is 5.28m, while Scuderi is 3.63m. I'm not sure what their financial situation is... but can they really afford to spend 4m on a player that's on the 3rd/4th line?

 

[penguins2946*]

How many D do you think Montreal needs? They just acquired Gonchar and Allen...

When I posted that, a Habs fan wanted to know what it would take to get Ehrhoff or Martin, which made me think the Habs needed a D.

I don't think anybody's prying Pavelski or Couture away from San Jose. They could sell one of Thornton or Marleau, though.

Thornton isn't needed here, and while I was a big fan of Marleau, noticing Kunitz's drastic fall has made me iffy towards Marleau. I don't think he would follow a similar path, but I didn't think Kunitz would fall off like he did either.

 

[BobCole]

Thornton isn't needed here, and while I was a big fan of Marleau, noticing Kunitz's drastic fall has made me iffy towards Marleau. I don't think he would follow a similar path, but I didn't think Kunitz would fall off like he did either.

Oh, I wasn't advocating for trying to acquire one of them, I was just trying to say that they were the only two SJ players who are actually in the market.

Now, I would love Marleau here personally, but he may not be my first choice because of his age. Our team is already too old. I'd like to see a top 6 winger on the right side of 30.

 

[penguins2946*]

Oh, I wasn't advocating for trying to acquire one of them, I was just trying to say that they were the only two SJ players who are actually in the market.

Now, I would love Marleau here personally, but he may not be my first choice because of his age. Our team is already too old. I'd like to see a top 6 winger on the right side of 30.

Sharks fans said they would do Martin, Pouliot and a 1st for Pavelski. If we could do that, would you do it? Pavelski is right at 30 right now.