Salary Cap: 2014-15 Roster-building Thread III | All UFA/trade talk, speculation here

[Riptide]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries, and are taken directly from www.capgeek.com.

2014-2015 salary ceiling: ....69,000,000
Projected cap spending: ......69,719,167
LTIR exception: .......................894,167
Projected cap space: ...............175,000



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

27​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

26​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

27​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

34​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

35​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

Brandon Sutter|

C​

|

25​

|

3,300,000​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Nick Spaling|

LW​

|

25​

|

2,200,000​

|

2,200,000​

|

UFA​

Marcel Goc|

C​

|

30​

|

1,200,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Downie|

RW​

|

27​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Blake Comeau|

LW​

|

28​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Craig Adams|

RW​

|

37​

|

700,000​

|

UFA​

Andrew Ebbett|

C​

|

31​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Zach Sill|

C​

|

26​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

27​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Paul Martin|

D​

|

33​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Christian Ehrhoff|

D​

|

32​

|

4,000,000​

|

UFA​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

35​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

|

3,375,000​

Simon Despres|

D​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

19​

|

894,167​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Robert Bortuzzo|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Scott Harrington|

D​

|

21​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

RFA​

Goalie...................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

29​

|

5,000,000​

|

UFA​

Thomas Greiss|

G​

|

28​

|

1,000,000​

|

UFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

.2014-15​

|

.2015-16​

|

.2016-17​

Beau Bennett|

LW​

|

22​

|

900,000​

|

RFA​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Jayson Megna|

RW​

|

24​

|

874,125​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

21​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

22​

|

655,000​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

22​

|

652,500​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Adam Payerl|

RW​

|

23​

|

626,667​

|

RFA​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

20​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

21​

|

601,667​

|

RFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

22​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

20​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

598,333​

|

RFA​

Bobby Farnham|

LW​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Nick Drazenovic|

C​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|

RW​

|

29​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Defense..............................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

20​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

22​

|

831,667​

|

RFA​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

21​

|

650,833​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Nick D'Agostino|

D​

|

23​

|

625,000​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Philip Samuelsson|

D​

|

22​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

Taylor Chorney|

D​

|

27​

|

550,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie................................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

20​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

27​

|

600,000​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

WHEELING NAILERS

Goalie...........................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2014-15​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

Eric Hartzell|

G​

|

25​

|

550,000​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Kasperi Kapanen|

RW​

|

18​

|

KalPa (Liiga)​

|

3 years/925,000 per​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

20​

|

SkellefteÃ¥ (SHL)​

|

3 years/708,333 per​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

19​

|

Edmonton (WHL)​

|

3 years/650,833 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

18​

|Omaha (USHL)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

18​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

19​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

19​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

19​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

20​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

19​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

18​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

21​

|Boston University (HEA)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

24​

|Magnitogorsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

19​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

20​

|Union (ECAC)

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[Riptide]

Of course one would prefer to keep the small winger depth we have but if BB or KK are holding up any potential deal, i wouldn't hesitate to pull that trigger. Depending on the return.

Last real post from old thread.

 

[Riptide]

Example: What if you moved Martin for McGinn and a 2nd and Beau and Scuderi for Stafford or Stewart? Then, maybe you move that 2nd and Dumolin to Carolina for a guy like Sekera.

This wouldn't be the sexiest, but I don't think there is a deal that couldn't happen there and it works under the cap.

Kunitz-Sid-Horny
McGinn-Geno-Stafford/Stewart
Dupuis-Sutter-Downie
Spaling-Goc-Comeau

Then, your seven defensemen would be Ehrhoff, Letang, Maatta, Sekera, Despres, Borts, Harrington

I'm just spitballing there. Point is, the Pens have the assets to go for it without sacrificing the future (unless one thinks Beau will be healthy enough moving forward to be counted on as part of the future . . . as I keep saying, I love him and his game, but there's a big difference between that and counting on him to be part of the future, especially with the other young players and cap space JR is going to have this summer).

I'd just keep BB. If there's a trade that makes sense (aka we're getting someone young, or someone with term left), then sure. But I don't want to see us trade BB to move a contract like Scuderi's.

Do the Martin/McGinn trade, and see about trading for a vet D. If you could get Sekera for a 2nd and Dumo, I'd probably hesitantly do that (I still think Dumo is a lot better than most on here give him credit for). If there's still doubts about BB being able to stay healthy (and we'll have a better idea of this come the TD), then perhaps look at trading Spaling(+?) for someone who's a better fit as a tweener in a top 6 role (or the best player you can get). Hell you might even be able to do Spaling for Stafford/Stewart if Buffalo retains salary.

Sure moving Scuderi would be nice, but as long as MJ is willing to sit him if needed, it's not critical. We can always look to do so next summer, or worse case just buy him out and suck up the dead cap space for 4 years.

Kunitz - Crosby - Hornqvist
McGinn - Malkin - Bennett
Dupuis - Sutter - Downie
Spaling - Goc - Comeau

 

[WayneSid9987]

Yea, i think JR can do Geno's LW'er and a vet physical PK'ing D at the very least to set the team up for a decent playoff run and NOT lose Bennett.

Bennett will thrive in MJ's systems. Guy just has to stay in the lineup.

If MJ and Tocchet with JR put thier heads together, i think i'm gonna like the types of players they target.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

McGinn - Malkin - Bennett

Personally I would hate that line. Malkin with a questionable Bennett and an average third liner who sucks in the playoffs? I'd much rather keep Martin for one more year.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Yes to players like Stewart, Perron, Ladd (ie solid 55-60 point guys in their prime) as the benchmark for Malkin's winger this season. If we could land one of a number of higher level guys (Kane, Eberle, Wheeler) in a blockbuster type deal, I doubt anyone would complain either.

 

[Michael8771*]

Ultimately and in the long run I believe one of Kunitz or Horntoad should play with Geno. We need to have balance and scoring throughout the line up. That's a nice top line but honestly, we're stacking that line at the cost of others. You want to maximize Sids vision and talent but you also want to maximize Geno. This scenario clearly caters to one and somewhat mitigates the other. While I'm on board with Getting Mcginn, Kunitz and Horny would remain our top two wingers. Again, one for Sid, one for Geno.

Here's how I'd configure the lines

Mcginn-Geno-Horntoad

Kunitz-Sid-BB or Dupuis

Spaling/Comeau-Sutter-BB or Dupuis

Spaling/Comeau-Goc-Downie

And you can occasionally move up Downie or really any of those depth guys if need be.

 

[penguins2946*]

Ladd would be an interesting target. He only costs $4.4 million, and he would be an extremely good winger for Malkin. Ladd would be our most complete top-6 winger since Hossa. A crazy idea would be to trade for both Lupul and Ladd, but I don't think that's easily attainable cap wise. I think Martin, Scuderi and Sutter would all need to be moved. Maybe Martin for a 1st and 3rd, Sutter, that 1st and Pens 2nd for Ladd, Scuderi to anyone for a low pick and a 1st for Lupul?

 

[Ogrezilla]

Ladd would be an interesting target. He only costs $4.4 million, and he would be an extremely good winger for Malkin. Ladd would be our most complete top-6 winger since Hossa. A crazy idea would be to trade for both Lupul and Ladd, but I don't think that's easily attainable cap wise. I think Martin, Scuderi and Sutter would all need to be moved. Maybe Martin for a 1st and 3rd, Sutter, that 1st and Pens 2nd for Ladd, Scuderi to anyone for a low pick and a 1st for Lupul?

I would love Ladd, and would move a lot for him. He's also going to be a really hard target to acquire.

I don't like Lupul. He's injured too much, and I don't think good enough to take the risk on his injury problems going away.

 

[penguins2946*]

I would love Ladd, and would move a lot for him. He's also going to be a really hard target to acquire.

I don't like Lupul. He's injured too much, and I don't think good enough to take the risk on his injury problems going away.

That's a fair complaint about Lupul. I do think bringing in 2 top-6 forwards is overkill, but I doubt we could get Ladd without including Sutter. I just want to trade futures for a top-6 winger, I really like how our bottom-6 is right now.

 

[Ogrezilla]

That's a fair complaint about Lupul. I do think bringing in 2 top-6 forwards is overkill, but I doubt we could get Ladd without including Sutter. I just want to trade futures for a top-6 winger, I really like how our bottom-6 is right now.

I doubt we could get Ladd without moving Despres or Maatta.

I think bringing in two top 6 forwards would be ideal, but definitely not what I expect. We need one. Its a risk though, because it means we need to rely on one of Bennett, Dupuis or maybe Sutter in the top 6. Bennett I just don't know if we can trust for healthy reasons. Dupuis I just don't know if he's good enough. And Sutter I just don't know if he's good enough on the wing. I really want us to switch him and Geno so we can try to find that out.

Largely, it depends just how good of a wing we get. If we get someone like Ladd or E Kane, its a lot easier to accept the risk of one of those three in that spot. If its someone like McGinn, I think we would really want to add something else.

Can you imagine the bottom 6 if we do get two top 6 wingers?

With Sutter
Dupuis-Sutter-Bennett
Downie-Goc-Comeau
Spaling (maybe we'd trade him instead of Sutter?)

Without Sutter
Dupuis-Goc-Bennett
Downie-Spaling-Comeau

not to mention a top 6 good enough to bump both Dupuis and Bennett down. I think we'd likely be looking at the second scenario to get two wingers, but that's still pretty damn good.

 

[iFishyHD]

I doubt we could get Ladd without moving Despres or Maatta.

I think we could. Winnipeg has Morissey coming up, as well as Trouba and a couple other meh D prospects. Winnipeg would more then likely want to do something like

Sutter+BB/KK+Dumo
for
Ladd.

I would hope we could get them to add though. Maybe something around a lesser forward prospect or 2nd this year?

Morrisey and Trouba take top time, and Dumo is on the 2nd pairing it the future. Winnipeg should be sellers for sure though, and I think Ladd could be available at the TDL if they think Ehlers or someone should be ready by then or next year.

Although I think if Winnipeg trades someone, its going to be Buff.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

IMO, we should target Perron. **** the rest

Kunitz-Crosby-Horny
Perron-Malkin-Dupuis/BB

 

[iFishyHD]

IMO, we should target Perron. **** the rest

I wouldn't mind Perron, but I don't really see him as much as a fit as some seem to think. I would rather spend assets on the right guy, then to spend assets to get a guy.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

I wouldn't mind Perron, but I don't really see him as much as a fit as some seem to think. I would rather spend assets on the right guy, then to spend assets to get a guy.

Why do you think he's not a good fit?

 

[iFishyHD]

Why do you think he's not a good fit?

Has had a couple concussions and just doesn't seem like the guy I would target. Comes off a little bit James Nealish (not the dirtiness) on the ice. I doubt he is available for anybody, but Letang or Maatta too. If there is the right deal to be made to get him, I would do it though. I wouldn't want to overpay for him.

 

[SEALBound]

If Bennett can stay relatively healthy and Dupuis plays like he has been, I would be okay targeting one winger and having those two rotate based on play or health status. I would rather that than mortgaging the future again.

Ideally Martin+prospect or laterish pick gets the job done. Not giving up Maatta, Pouliot, Harrington, 1 or 2nd round picks. Not willing to do it anymore.

 

[mpp9]

I have no clue what people are watching when it comes to Perron. Hes creative, protects the puck well along the wall, takes it to the net, has a laser shot and plays the game with an edge.

He aint elite, but I bet he suddenly gets thrown in that category if moved here. If Bennett cant stay healthy, Id take a hard look at him.

 

[Shockmaster]

What is Perron's contract status? Is he a UFA after the season? Paul Martin sure as hell isn't going to accept a trade to Edmonton.

 

[Riptide]

Personally I would hate that line. Malkin with a questionable Bennett and an average third liner who sucks in the playoffs? I'd much rather keep Martin for one more year.

McGinn has played great with Duchane in Colorado. While he's very much a 3rd wheel, he'd be a good one here.

 

[Riptide]

Has had a couple concussions and just doesn't seem like the guy I would target. Comes off a little bit James Nealish (not the dirtiness) on the ice. I doubt he is available for anybody, but Letang or Maatta too. If there is the right deal to be made to get him, I would do it though. I wouldn't want to overpay for him.

He's missed a total of 4 games the last 2 years. There's a few reasons why Perron wouldn't work... but his injury issues (concussions specifically) wouldn't be one of them.

 

[Hydro]

Perron seems like a perfect fit for Malkin, he's nothing like James Neal

 

[DegenX]

Martin for McGinn doesn't work with the Av's cap, though. They have just under $1M to work with, so it couldn't be a straight up swap.

 

[Ogrezilla]

McGinn has played great with Duchane in Colorado. While he's very much a 3rd wheel, he'd be a good one here.

I'd want a surer thing than Bennett on the other side though. I don't want to rely on Bennett as more than a 3rd wheel this year. Even that's risky.

 

[penguins2946*]

I'd want a surer thing than Bennett on the other side though. I don't want to rely on Bennett as more than a 3rd wheel this year. Even that's risky.

Mcginn-Malkin-Lupul

Wait, that actually is no better since Lupul is always hurt.