OT: 2013 Redskins Thread Part III: Barfs on the Warpath
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An absolute circus. This organization.
This is worse than the Cerrato/Zorn era. That from a 2 time super bowl winning coach.
This is worse than the Cerrato/Zorn era. That from a 2 time super bowl winning coach.
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You think bringing Cousins into this mess as it stands has any chance of accurately assessing his value?
We have a lame duck coach in a power struggle with the owner and a team well out of the playoffs who is completely deflated. Cousins will look awful as would any QB in this position.
No this is a move to force Snyder's hand to fire him.
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Three firsts and a second walk into a bar.
They order two beers, but the bartender says "Sorry, one drink per person."
That's the joke.
They order two beers, but the bartender says "Sorry, one drink per person."
That's the joke.
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I know there are reports that this is supposed to enrage Snyder, but I'm not convinced Snyder didn't ask Shanahan to bench RG3 to protect him because DS doesn't trust MS to manage that asset for the last few games.
MS's motive for doing it would be to avoid the ugliness of being the coach that ruined RG3 if an injury were to occur. It makes him appear to be taking the Skins long-term interests into consideration over his record as a coach. That's a positive in his column for future negotiations with other teams.
Whatever the motive, it's the right move, imo.
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Any of them come at the same price as RG3? Is the QB position the most important on any football team?
I don't know, you tell me. Why not bench more starters? Guys playing for future contracts who aren't superstars will probably protest.
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so RG3 not even practicing ?
how the hell is he gonna get any better if Grossman is taking his practice reps.
how the hell is he gonna get any better if Grossman is taking his practice reps.
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Well Shanahan did say that he confered with Snyder on this decision but didn't give the outcome of that discussion as to whether Snyder agreed to it or not.
I agree that its the right move and it probably was not wise to have him start the season in hindsight.
Something tells me this is all part of a power ploy tho. Seems like a game of chicken.
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I don't think he's 100%. He's not running as well as he did last year and he's not passing as well, either. IMO he should be in PT and should be doing drills to get his mechanics back.
When that brace is off (which the doctors won't let him remove until next year) he may be 100%. Until then, nope.
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This organization is a ****show. I had a whole rant typed up bashing all three parties, but deleted it because "this organization is a ****show" says it all.
RG3 will not succeed here. This sloppy mess will continue, because it always does no matter who the coach is. After not succeeding in a ridiculously impossible position, he'll get traded to a real organization, escape this drunken clown orgy and thrive elsewhere. It'll be like San Diego with Drew Brees but far more embarrassing because nobody cares about the Chargers anyways, but people love crapping on Washington.
I think this is true. He's really clearly not the same guy in terms of physical capabilities...he's getting caught by guys this year he would've left in the dust last year. Wasn't he supposed to miss the first 5 games but was rushed back? Something tells me that 5 weeks of rusty football behind a terrible offensive line hinders any healing process.
RG3 will not succeed here. This sloppy mess will continue, because it always does no matter who the coach is. After not succeeding in a ridiculously impossible position, he'll get traded to a real organization, escape this drunken clown orgy and thrive elsewhere. It'll be like San Diego with Drew Brees but far more embarrassing because nobody cares about the Chargers anyways, but people love crapping on Washington.
I think this is true. He's really clearly not the same guy in terms of physical capabilities...he's getting caught by guys this year he would've left in the dust last year. Wasn't he supposed to miss the first 5 games but was rushed back? Something tells me that 5 weeks of rusty football behind a terrible offensive line hinders any healing process.
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Was told this again two weeks ago...Mike Shanahan was against giving up the level of compensation they did for #2 pick. He gave in....
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He gave in to Dan & Bruce when he realized he could not secure Peyton Manning. ..Now he feels "I told u then" & is wrongly getting revenge
We will never win with this owner.
Was told this again two weeks ago...Mike Shanahan was against giving up the level of compensation they did for #2 pick. He gave in....
Chris Russell @russellmania980
He gave in to Dan & Bruce when he realized he could not secure Peyton Manning. ..Now he feels "I told u then" & is wrongly getting revenge
We will never win with this owner.
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Ha, not that it matters. Who would be the QB otherwise? The team would still be a debacle. Every move this org makes is incorrect. Every single one.
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I've had knee problems and I played college level sports. I've had to play with big braces on. Nobody who's 100% would ever choose to do that. Others I know who've been through the same things agree with that sentiment.
RG3 ran like a deer last year. Now he runs like...a wounded deer.
Unfortunately he also fell like a deer, with legs flapping all over the place (which is when Ngata hit him for the first injury).
He clearly hasn't adjusted to the pro game in terms of learning to be tackled. Kids in HS can't tackle. In college you're down as soon as you hit the ground so defenders don't play through the whistle or attempt to bury you as much as they do in the pros. And in the pros EVERYONE is fast, even the linemen.
Skins fans have to hope what we've seen is the ultimate textbook "sophomore slump", and that RG3 learns something from this season instead of just relying on what he was doing in year 1.
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On my. It was reported that Shanahan wanted Tannehill I thought.
This just sucks. The fact that Snyder is so involved that is...
I'm actually kind of glad Shanahan is bringing this to light. Snyder had fooled the fans for a few years there.
There's a great write up in the Post today with Cooley detailing how terrible RG3's mechanics have been.
I've got to believe the coaches see it and are trying to correct it which tells me that either he's either fighting them or incapable.
I've got to believe the coaches see it and are trying to correct it which tells me that either he's either fighting them or incapable.
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You know, it's funny because several weeks ago some callers to the 980 show "The Drive" were telling Cooley and Czaban that RG3 had bad mechanics ...and in response they MOCKED the callers. Cooley went so far as to joke at length about how he'd approach RG3 and tell him some random guy had a problem with his mechanics and footwork, and get right on that (paraphrasing).
Well, so much for the fans always being wrong and the people "in the game" always being right.
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