henchman21
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I say if it happens we all take flights to Helsinki and drink away our sorrows... or go to Sweden to join in the riots over a Finn being drafted #1.
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I say if it happens we all take flights to Helsinki and drink away our sorrows... or go to Sweden to join in the riots over a Finn being drafted #1.
ANewHope
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It's business 101, managing expectations. Everyone had Jones going to Colorado, people were using the hometown card and you save yourself a potential backlash that would affect the $ and marketing end of things. You tell everybody Jones won't be picked. They didn't reveal ANYTHING except they don't have Jones top 3.
Talking to GMs? Would make sense if they used Mackinnon, instead of 3 forwards. So we have Jones 4th or worse, could have been a ploy to move down to 2-4th but that bluff doesn't make any sense if they want Jones.
Honestly think it was a were not drafting Jones, short and simple. Everything else will be behind closed doors this was just to save there ass/let the fans no, IMO anyways which isn't much
RockLobster
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I don't know if we did or not, and I'm at work and don't have the time to dig through the numerous posts that I've had in these threads.
If that's the case, than Varly would have a target on his back. It's not like he's been a super stud or mister consistent or anything.
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2011 was like that with Huberdeau, Landeskog, Larsson, and Nugent-Hopkins. And as far as the top 3 overall picks went, Couturier and Hamilton were in the mix.
Most did think Nugent-Hopkins would go 1st but it wasn't in stone.
Can't post the quote because I'm on my phone, but Tampa's head amateur scout responded to Sakic's quote by saying its smart to throw up some controversy and make people think a bit. He also said they're in a good spot and have no control but know they'll get a good player.
I think it will be hard to trade down because any team in the top 4 will be happy with who falls.
I think it will be hard to trade down because any team in the top 4 will be happy with who falls.
henchman21
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Assuming what Sakic said isn't a bluff and is true, I think we can safely pin down a Pracey/Avs tendency... they don't draft defensemen high (high meaning top ~5).
Avs_19
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McKenzie's two thoughts are that either Sakic is trying to cushion the blow because a lot of people assume the Denver kid is going first overall but really the Avs don't have him in their top three. Or Sakic is just posturing and trying to get Florida or Tampa to move up. But he doesn't think Florida will trade up, they'll stay at #2 and pick whoever is available.
A few GMs were asked about Sakic's comments as well, they didn't have much to say.....
Mac-T: Sakic's comments will get a lot of attention and virtually everyone will be contacting the Avs about their intentions.
Nonis: Sakic seems like a very honest guy but you never know until the pick is made. The top 3 or 4 picks will all be good players.
Yzerman just said, "it sounds like they're exploring their options with the first pick."
A few GMs were asked about Sakic's comments as well, they didn't have much to say.....
Mac-T: Sakic's comments will get a lot of attention and virtually everyone will be contacting the Avs about their intentions.
Nonis: Sakic seems like a very honest guy but you never know until the pick is made. The top 3 or 4 picks will all be good players.
Yzerman just said, "it sounds like they're exploring their options with the first pick."
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I can't pretend to know enough about Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, or any prospect. I just know I enjoy hockey and the Avs. With that said, I'm willing to trust Sakic and Roy in how the handle the draft. Time will tell if they made the right move.
I will say, that after watching videos of the players online Drouin does seem to have the "it" factor and was fun to watch.
I will say, that after watching videos of the players online Drouin does seem to have the "it" factor and was fun to watch.
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ANewHope
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This is my guess, just makes too much sense. 99% of mocks have us taking Jones, the media, our fanbase etc.
Sakic didn't do anything. Everybody eliminates players, every team has there top 3. Only news because Jones was suppose to be our guy and he isn't. We still know nothing, same as before just without Jones.
Smart way to handle things IMO. Impressive.
link to video if anyone is interested:
http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=main/latest/1/0/950466/clip/0#main/latest
http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=main/latest/1/0/950633/clip/114#main/latest
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I think Sakic is trying to see what he can get for the first pick. That is why he is going public with what he is saying. If he can get a good asset to move down a couple of spots, he'll do it, but if not, I'm sure he's content to stay at #1 and take who Colorado has #1 on their board (presumably Mac).
I do not think he is messing around when it comes to him saying that he has the 3 forwards ahead of Jones, though. He was not ambiguous about this part at all. He left himself some wiggle room with the way he worded his statement, like anyone of any intelligence would, but to me it seems very likely that something soured Colorado on Jones. And realistically speaking, it makes him look disingenuous and/or indecisive if he does take Jones any higher than 4 at this point, with what he said. Being new to his position, I don't think Sakic will want to appear this way to other GMs.
I think Mac is their guy at #1, and if they can get a good trade to go down and take Barkov or Drouin, they will. But only if they can get good assets to move down.
I do not think he is messing around when it comes to him saying that he has the 3 forwards ahead of Jones, though. He was not ambiguous about this part at all. He left himself some wiggle room with the way he worded his statement, like anyone of any intelligence would, but to me it seems very likely that something soured Colorado on Jones. And realistically speaking, it makes him look disingenuous and/or indecisive if he does take Jones any higher than 4 at this point, with what he said. Being new to his position, I don't think Sakic will want to appear this way to other GMs.
I think Mac is their guy at #1, and if they can get a good trade to go down and take Barkov or Drouin, they will. But only if they can get good assets to move down.
Duchene2MacKinnon
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Avs_19
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Well just shows how much he knows, it was Sakic who said it.
He knows who publicly made the comments. He just said this is Roy playing games like he did in junior.
I wonder how much of this is influenced by the fact that as an organization, we're rubbish at developing defensive defensemen. Who was the last non-offensive defenseman who came out of our system? Kurt Sauer? Before that you're looking at Nordiques territory unless I'm missing someone. I wonder if the Erik Johnson trade is going to be their M.O. going forward. The team is good at developing offensive defensemen and forwards, so we'll draft those and hope to just trade our excess for the defensemen that we need.
Duchene2MacKinnon
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I know it was a joke. I honestly wouldn't takr anything button says seriously. Guy's a moron.
In other news james galdalfini died rip.
Also my friend just spolied season 6 for me in sopranos.
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