2011 Partial Redraft - Feedback

[Tommy Shelby]

I'd have Landeskog over Trocheck.

 

[rubikscube]

I think I would probably pick Scheifele over Gaudreau but its 2a/2b (also it could be because i'm a homer).
Both are PPG guys now and just classic case of center>wing and Scheifele being half a foot taller and much heavier that can play physical and strong defense when he needs to. All imo, of course

 

[stl76]

updated middle section

20	Boone Jenner
21	Ryan Strome
22	Victor Rask
23	Vladislav Namestnikov
24	Josh Manson
25	Sven Baertschi
26	Andrew Shaw
27	Jean-Gabriel Pageau
28	Adam Lowry
29	Phillip Danault
30	Joel Edmundson
	Player
Num.
31	Connor Murphy
32	Tobias Rieder
33	Ryan Dzingel
34	Matthew Nieto
35	Jamie Oleksiak
36	Nikita Nesterov
37	Nathan Beaulieu
38	Klas Dahlbeck
39	Markus Granlund
40	Dmitrij Jaskin
41	Nick Shore
42	Joel Armia

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

List of players that Edmundson should be lower than: Jenner, Strome, Namestnikov, Shaw Pageau, Lowry Danault, maybe Rask.

 

[HanSolo]

Manson is way way too low. I'd argue the only guy he's in direct competition with among those defender names is Hamilton.

 

[CanadienShark]

I'd have a few guys moved around. Manson is slightly low, imo. Not bad at all. Scheifele would be at worst #2 for me.

 

[BinCookin]

update

Num.	Player	GP	G	A	Pts	Pts / GP
1	Nikita Kucherov	365	147	187	334	0.915068493
2	Mark Scheifele	366	113	174	287	0.784153005
3	Johnny Gaudreau	312	97	191	288	0.923076923
4	Gabriel Landeskog	506	143	198	341	0.673913043
5	Vincent Trocheck	310	91	121	212	0.683870968
6	Jonathan Huberdeau	385	95	172	267	0.693506494
7	Dougie Hamilton	423	64	156	220	0.520094563
8	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	457	119	194	313	0.684901532
9	Sean Couturier	498	101	166	267	0.536144578
10	John Gibson	178	0	3	3	0.016853933
11	Rickard Rakell	313	96	102	198	0.632587859
12	Mika Zibanejad	409	105	130	235	0.574572127
13	Adam Larsson	416	17	84	101	0.242788462
14	Jonas Brodin	404	24	76	100	0.247524752
15	Oscar Klefbom	255	24	70	94	0.368627451
16	Ondrej Palat	363	85	168	253	0.696969697
17	Brandon Saad	450	125	142	267	0.593333333
18	William Karlsson	265	61	67	128	0.483018868
19	J.T. Miller	360	82	108	190	0.527777778
20	Josh Manson	261	17	55	72	0.275862069
21	Boone Jenner	342	86	75	161	0.470760234
22	Ryan Strome	340	58	102	160	0.470588235
23	Victor Rask	313	62	95	157	0.501597444
24	Vladislav Namestnikov	282	55	72	127	0.45035461
25	Sven Baertschi	259	57	65	122	0.471042471
26	Andrew Shaw	441	92	94	186	0.421768707
27	Jean-Gabriel Pageau	329	59	71	130	0.395136778
28	Adam Lowry	281	41	49	90	0.320284698
29	Phillip Danault	187	25	50	75	0.401069519
30	Joel Edmundson	205	11	30	41	0.2
	Player	GP	G	A	Pts
Num.
31	Connor Murphy	334	15	48	63	0.188622754
32	Tobias Rieder	312	55	62	117	0.375
33	Ryan Dzingel	190	40	42	82	0.431578947
34	Matthew Nieto	338	50	57	107	0.316568047
35	Jamie Oleksiak	187	11	25	36	0.192513369
36	Nikita Nesterov	132	9	24	33	0.25
37	Nathan Beaulieu	284	8	61	69	0.242957746
38	Klas Dahlbeck	170	6	17	23	0.135294118
39	Markus Granlund	224	43	32	75	0.334821429
40	Dmitrij Jaskin	266	25	36	61	0.229323308
41	Nick Shore	236	15	38	53	0.224576271
42	Joel Armia	180	26	32	58	0.322222222
43	Ryan Murphy	172	8	34	42	0.244186047
44	Reid Boucher	132	20	22	42	0.318181818
45	Stefan Noesen	118	21	16	37	0.313559322
46	Mike Reilly	103	4	22	26	0.252427184
47	Blake Coleman	102	14	13	27	0.264705882
48	Brett Ritchie	188	29	19	48	0.255319149
49	Tomas Jurco	201	22	28	50	0.248756219
50	Shane Prince	128	12	26	38	0.296875
51	Joe Morrow	121	8	17	25	0.20661157
52	Logan Shaw	180	12	19	31	0.172222222
53	Nick Cousins	178	24	22	46	0.258426966
54	Scott Wilson	172	19	27	46	0.26744186
55	Andy Andreoff	159	13	11	24	0.150943396
56	Jyrki Jokipakka	150	3	25	28	0.186666667
57	Xavier Ouellet	141	5	18	23	0.163120567
58	Iiro Pakarinen	134	10	13	23	0.171641791
59	Dylan DeMelo	133	3	29	32	0.240601504
60	Ty Rattie	49	9	10	19	0.387755102
61	Miikka Salomaki	125	8	11	19	0.152

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Tkachuky]

Gaudreau 3rd???? Wow

 

[paragon]

Larsson and Manson should switch places.

 

[General Disarray]

There's like 6 Oilers in this draft

 

[rubikscube]

Gaudreau 3rd???? Wow

You're surprised that a PPG two way center that's got 6 inches and 40 pounds on gaudreau could potentially be more valuable?

 

[Ducks in a row]

So 4 Ducks players in round 1 outstanding for them in a redraft if only Karlsson was still a Duck and playing like he has this season.

 

[Joey Moss]

Manson in the Klefbom, Brodin, Larsson range for me.

Zibanejad more in the Palat, Saad area.

 

[BinCookin]

Ya to get more accuracy on top 3, might need to do a poll.

 

[lomiller1]

Parayko and Hellebuyck were undrafted but eligible in 2011. Both would go pretty high.

 

[Tripod]

Parayko and Hellebuyck were undrafted but eligible in 2011. Both would go pretty high.

Ghost too.

 

[CuriousGeorge]

Looking for some feedback on the biggest errors in this redraft: thanks:

--#---------name-------------------------gp----g-----a-----pts------pts/Game

1	Nikita Kucherov	365	147	187	334	0.915068493
2	Johnny Gaudreau	312	97	191	288	0.923076923
3	Mark Scheifele	366	113	174	287	0.784153005
4	Vincent Trocheck	310	91	121	212	0.683870968
5	Gabriel Landeskog	506	143	198	341	0.673913043
6	Dougie Hamilton	423	64	156	220	0.520094563
7	Ryan Nugent-Hopkins	457	119	194	313	0.684901532
8	Jonathan Huberdeau	385	95	172	267	0.693506494
9	John Gibson	178	0	3	3	0.016853933
10	Mika Zibanejad	409	105	130	235	0.574572127
11	Rickard Rakell	313	96	102	198	0.632587859
12	Sean Couturier	498	101	166	267	0.536144578
13	Adam Larsson	416	17	84	101	0.242788462
14	Jonas Brodin	404	24	76	100	0.247524752
15	Oscar Klefbom	255	24	70	94	0.368627451
16	Ondrej Palat	363	85	168	253	0.696969697
17	Brandon Saad	450	125	142	267	0.593333333
18	William Karlsson	265	61	67	128	0.483018868
19	J.T. Miller	360	82	108	190	0.527777778
20	Boone Jenner	342	86	75	161	0.470760234
21	Ryan Strome	340	58	102	160	0.470588235
22	Victor Rask	313	62	95	157	0.501597444
23	Vladislav Namestnikov	282	55	72	127	0.45035461
24	Josh Manson	261	17	55	72	0.275862069
25	Sven Baertschi	259	57	65	122	0.471042471
26	Andrew Shaw	441	92	94	186	0.421768707
27	Jean-Gabriel Pageau	329	59	71	130	0.395136778
28	Ryan Dzingel	190	40	42	82	0.431578947
29	Phillip Danault	187	25	50	75	0.401069519
30	Tobias Rieder	312	55	62	117	0.375
	Player	GP	G	A	Pts
Num.
31	Nathan Beaulieu	284	8	61	69	0.242957746
32	Joel Edmundson	205	11	30	41	0.2
33	Connor Murphy	334	15	48	63	0.188622754
34	Matthew Nieto	338	50	57	107	0.316568047
35	Adam Lowry	281	41	49	90	0.320284698
36	Jamie Oleksiak	187	11	25	36	0.192513369
37	Nikita Nesterov	132	9	24	33	0.25
38	Klas Dahlbeck	170	6	17	23	0.135294118
39	Markus Granlund	224	43	32	75	0.334821429
40	Dmitrij Jaskin	266	25	36	61	0.229323308
41	Nick Shore	236	15	38	53	0.224576271
42	Joel Armia	180	26	32	58	0.322222222
43	Ryan Murphy	172	8	34	42	0.244186047
44	Reid Boucher	132	20	22	42	0.318181818
45	Stefan Noesen	118	21	16	37	0.313559322
46	Mike Reilly	103	4	22	26	0.252427184
47	Blake Coleman	102	14	13	27	0.264705882
48	Brett Ritchie	188	29	19	48	0.255319149
49	Tomas Jurco	201	22	28	50	0.248756219
50	Shane Prince	128	12	26	38	0.296875
51	Joe Morrow	121	8	17	25	0.20661157
52	Logan Shaw	180	12	19	31	0.172222222
53	Nick Cousins	178	24	22	46	0.258426966
54	Scott Wilson	172	19	27	46	0.26744186
55	Andy Andreoff	159	13	11	24	0.150943396
56	Jyrki Jokipakka	150	3	25	28	0.186666667
57	Xavier Ouellet	141	5	18	23	0.163120567
58	Iiro Pakarinen	134	10	13	23	0.171641791
59	Dylan DeMelo	133	3	29	32	0.240601504
60	Ty Rattie	49	9	10	19	0.387755102
61	Miikka Salomaki	125	8	11	19	0.152
	Player	GP	G	A	Pts
Num.						#DIV/0!
62	Alexey Marchenko	121	4	17	21	0.173553719
63	Lukas Sedlak	115	11	10	21	0.182608696
64	Fredrik Claesson	113	4	16	20	0.17699115
65	Adam Clendening	86	4	20	24	0.279069767
66	Alan Quine	84	6	16	22	0.261904762
67	Scott Mayfield	83	5	17	22	0.265060241
68	Sean Kuraly	83	6	9	15	0.180722892
70	Matt Puempel	79	10	5	15	0.189873418
71	Scott Harrington	79	3	6	9	0.113924051
72	Frankie Corrado	76	3	5	8	0.105263158
73	Tyler Graovac	62	7	2	9	0.14516129
74	Joseph Cramarossa	59	4	6	10	0.169491525
75	Joshua Leivo	57	10	12	22	0.385964912
76	Max McCormick	57	5	4	9	0.157894737
77	Josh Archibald	53	8	6	14	0.264150943
78	Anton Forsberg	45	0	1	1	0.022222222
79	Ryan Sproul	44	2	10	12	0.272727273
80	Laurent Brossoit	28	0	1	1	0.035714286
81	Lucas Lessio	41	3	4	7	0.170731707
82	Rocco Grimaldi	37	5	5	10	0.27027027
83	Kyle Rau	36	2	2	4	0.111111111
84	Rob O'Gara	33	0	3	3	0.090909091

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This is a horrible list.

 

[BinCookin]

This is a horrible list.

You can do it by polls if you want to spend 1 month

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

You're surprised that a PPG two way center that's got 6 inches and 40 pounds on gaudreau could potentially be more valuable?

Considering their respective supporting casts, yea that would surprise me. Gaudreau is the entire Flames offense. Scheifele plays on a stacked Jets offense.

 

[Stizzle]

Whoever would seriously consider guys like RNH and Landeskog more valuable players than Sean Couturier is a lost cause.

 

[BinCookin]

Whoever would seriously consider guys like RNH and Landeskog more valuable players than Sean Couturier is a lost cause.

I am rating their whole careers, not just this year.

 

[The Macho King]

Still forgetting about Drej.

 

[Steddy33]

Beaulieu won't be in the league in a year. 37 is way to high

 

[Stizzle]

I am rating their whole careers, not just this year.

So am I.

 

[kittiecarlyle]

updated middle section

20	Boone Jenner
21	Ryan Strome
22	Victor Rask
23	Vladislav Namestnikov
24	Josh Manson
25	Sven Baertschi
26	Andrew Shaw
27	Jean-Gabriel Pageau
28	Adam Lowry
29	Phillip Danault
30	Joel Edmundson
	Player
Num.
31	Connor Murphy
32	Tobias Rieder
33	Ryan Dzingel
34	Matthew Nieto
35	Jamie Oleksiak
36	Nikita Nesterov
37	Nathan Beaulieu
38	Klas Dahlbeck
39	Markus Granlund
40	Dmitrij Jaskin
41	Nick Shore
42	Joel Armia

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Baertschi still too high.