Proposal: 2 Toronto trades

[DougGilmour93]

Trade 1
To Toronto : Brandon Saad + Duncan Keith
(+ roughly 12 m in cap space)

To Chicago: Nazem Kadri + Jeremy Bracco + Nikita Zaitsev + 2nd in 19+ 4th in 20
(-9 m in cap space)

Chicago doesn’t strike me as the type of team that will tear it down. I’m thinking they retool. Kadri can come in and take over the 2nd line center spot and push Animisov to 3c (adding depth).
Bracco currently is a PPG (in the AHL) player that deserves a chance to make it into a top nine, but the way it’s going in Toronto it won’t happen anytime soon. He stands a better chance in Chicago.
Zaitsev is a solid defensive dman, he limits his mistakes, but is unspectacular on the offensive side of things. Honestly, IMO he’s probably overpaid by 1.5m. He needs to be in the deal due to the length of his contract. (Similar to the length of Keith’s contract)
Toronto also throws in a 2nd and 4th to add to the above value.

Trade 2
To Toronto: Radko Gudas
(+ 3.35 m)

To Philadelphia: Justin Holl + 3rd in 20 + 4th in 19
(-675,000)

With Gudas having another year remaining on his contract, Philly really doesn’t have to deal him, but he may not have a higher value than now (with there being a year remaining on his contract). Gudas on most teams is most likely a bottom pairing dman and on Toronto that would still be the case. What he does bring to the table for Toronto is his grit and toughness. Something the Leafs lack on the backend.
Philly could get a spot holder in Holl (Rhd) and decent draft picks (3rd + 4th). A good return for a bottom pairing dman. Typically they go for a lot less.

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[Liferleafer]

No on the 1st one, sure on the 2nd one from this Leafs fan.

 

[Starat327]

Replace holl with a 2nd and sure. Don't need more defensemen here though.

 

[Liferleafer]

Replace holl with a 2nd and sure. Don't need more defensemen here though.

I am fine with 2nd+3td for Gudas.

 

[Orfieus]

Gudas is playing over 20mins a night. Just saying he isn't a bottom pairing guy

 

[Starat327]

I am fine with 2nd+3td for Gudas.

Yeah, I think we've talked about this one a few times now. Same stipulations still apply ( management wants to bring up Myers being the sole reason we'd movmovd him this year to begin with).

 

[Funk21]

If we are trading meaningful or even picks I would rather go after somebody who will be a top pairing guy or lower pairing who has upside is young. Getting a mid 30 D man who has tons of miles on him is not improving our team IMO

 

[Bobby Terrance]

Lol, so we're worried about our future cap right? Screw it let's take on 10 million in a d-man, who of course is great, but slightly past it, a LW who does nothing for us, and an okay not great d-man, who, by the way, will not work in our system whilst giving up naz. No thanks to either. It helps today. Our best players are 20. We build around that.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

No way on that first deal from a Leaf perspective...that’s a killer long term

 

[DougGilmour93]

No way on that first deal from a Leaf perspective...that’s a killer long term

Zaitsev and Keith’s contract are similar in length but we can use Keith’s experience.

 

[CapnZin]

To little for Gudas. Usually a 2nd + 3rd would do.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

first one makes no sense. Trading for Gudas might be smart though

 

[Dog]

Gudas would be good

 

[CapnZin]

first one makes no sense. Trading for Gudas might be smart though

He’s honestly underrated. Very good, but only in a sheltered position. Put him on your top pair and he may get exposed. Does very well agitating top players too.

 

[DougGilmour93]

To little for Gudas. Usually a 2nd + 3rd would do.

A 2nd is too much for a dman like Gudas.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Zaitsev and Keith’s contract are similar in length but we can use Keith’s experience.

Saad’s making 6 million though and not producing a ton. People complain enough about Marleau.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Saad’s making 6 million though and not producing a ton. People complain enough about Marleau.

Saad is in the similar age bracket. He makes 6mil for 2 more years after this but we are also jettisoning Kadri’s contract and Zaitsev’s contract. Saad could potentially play alongside Matthews. He’s also considered responsible defensively.

 

[Liferleafer]

A 2nd is too much for a dman like Gudas.

We gave a 2nd for Turtleneck....Gudas would have a much bigger impact.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Saad is in the similar age bracket. He makes 6mil for 2 more years after this but we are also jettisoning Kadri’s contract and Zaitsev’s contract. Saad could potentially play alongside Matthews. He’s also considered responsible defensively.

Fair enough but the 3rd line centre position would then be a whole. I’m alrighg with Gudas, team could use more toughness in general.

 

[Starat327]

A 2nd is too much for a dman like Gudas.

Then you dont know who Gudas is, or are just trying to get him for cheap. Either way, he wont be had for your original offer.

 

[Mrfenn92]

No from chicago's side. Like Kadri a lot. Braaco putting up some nice numbers in the ahl. The main part is I have no interest in taking back Zaitsev.
I understand the salaries need to be evened out and he's not a bad player.
Any interest in working something around saad or Keith individually with the hawks taking back hortons deal and draft picks?

 

[Saekk]

Gonna have to pony up a bit more than a AHL defenceman, 3rd and 4th to get that "bottom pairing dman".

I don't see Philly moving him for less than a 2nd round pick.

 

[FerrisRox]

Zaitsev is a solid defensive dman

He most certainly isn't, and if he was, the Maple Leafs would be thrilled to have him.

 

[Tripod]

A 2nd is too much for a dman like Gudas.

You keep saying this, and no one agrees with you.

Here is an idea....STOP MAKING PROPOSALS FOR HIM IF YOU DON'T VALUE HIM.

just a thought.

 

[Tripod]

Gonna have to pony up a bit more than a AHL defenceman, 3rd and 4th to get that "bottom pairing dman".

I don't see Philly moving him for less than a 2nd round pick.

Flyers can get a 2nd rounder for Gudas next year if they want to trade him. This year, being a non-rental, he gets more.