1st Round Draft of Combined 2001, 02, 03 Drafts, Pretty Cool

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  1. HockeyGuy1011

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    OK, what we have here is a rough draft sample of a combination first round of all the past three NHL Entry Drafts (2001, 2002, 2003). I know this isn’t even CLOSE to being great, but it’s a start. Please voice your opinions and your own lists. THANKS!!!

    1.) M-A Fleury (03)
    2.) Ilya Kovalchuk (01)
    3.) Rick Nash (02)
    4.) Joni Pitkanen (02)
    5.) Kari Lehtonen (02)
    6.) Jason Spezza (01)
    7.) Nathan Horton (03)
    8.) Jay Bouwmeester (02)
    9.) Eric Staal (03)
    10.) Nikolai Zherdev (03)
    11.) Stephen Weiss (01)
    12.) Dan Blackburn (01)
    13.) Joffrey Lupol (02)
    14.) Ales Hemsky (01)
    15.) Dion Phaneuf (03)
    16.) Thomas Vanek (03)
    17.) Pat Bergeron (03)
    18.) Braydon Coburn (03)
    19.) Pascal Leclaire (01)
    20.) Lukas Krajicek (01)
    21.) Jeff Carter (03)
    22.) Anthony Stewart (03)
    23.) Scottie Upshall (02)
    24.) Zach Parise (03)
    25.) Denis Grebeshkov (02)
    26.) Dan Hamhuis (01)
    27.) Mike Richards (03)
    28.) Jeff Woywitka (01)
    29.) Ryan Suter (03)
    30.) Derek Roy (03)
     
  2. mcarrick16

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    you forgot PM Bouchard he should be in the list
     
  3. Fedz

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    I'll just do top 10

    1.) Ilya Kovalchuk (01)
    2.) Rick Nash (02)
    3.) Jason Spezza (01)
    4.) Joni Pitkanen (02)
    5.) Nikolai Zherdev (03)
    6.) Kari Lehtonen (02)
    7.) Ales Hemsky (01)
    8.) Jay Bouwmeester (02)
    9.) Dion Phaneuf (03)
    10.) Pat Bergeron (03)
     
  4. V for Voodoo

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    Great Idea, this could be an interesting thread.
    If anybody is interested in giving it a go, here are the first round lists.

    2003:
    1 Pittsburgh Marc-Andre Fleury
    2 Carolina Eric Staal
    3 Florida Nathan Horton
    4 Columbus Nikolai Zherdev
    5 Buffalo Thomas Vanek
    6 San Jose Milan Michalek
    7 Nashville Ryan Suter
    8 Atlanta Braydon Coburn
    9 Calgary Dion Phaneuf
    10 Mtl. Canadiens Andrei Kostitsyn
    11 Philadelphia Jeff Carter
    12 NY Rangers Hugh Jessiman
    13 Los Angeles Dustin Brown
    14 Chicago Brent Seabrooke
    15 NY Islanders Robert Nilsson
    16 San Jose Steve Bernier
    17 New Jersey Zach Parise
    18 Washington Eric Fehr
    19 Anaheim Ryan Getzlaf
    20 Minnesota Brent Burns
    21 Boston Mark Stuart
    22 Edmonton Marc-Antoine Pouliot
    23 Vancouver Ryan Kesler
    24 Philadelphia Mike Richards
    25 Florida Anthony Stewart
    26 Los Angeles Brian Boyle
    27 Los Angeles Jeff Tambellini
    28 Anaheim Corey Perry
    29 Ottawa Patrick Eaves
    30 St. Louis Shawn Belle


    2002:
    1 Columbus Rick Nash
    2 Atlanta Kari Lehtonen
    3 Florida Jay Bouwmeester
    4 Philadelphia Joni Pitkanen
    5 Pittsburgh Ryan Whitney
    6 Nashville Scott Upshall
    7 Anaheim Joffrey Lupul
    8 Minnesota Pierre-Marc Bouchard
    9 Florida Petr Taticek
    10 Calgary Eric Nystrom
    11 Buffalo Keith Ballard
    12 Washington Steve Eminger
    13 Washington Alexander Semin
    14 Mtl. Canadiens Christopher Higgins
    15 Edmonton Jesse Niinimaki
    16 Ottawa Jakub Klepis
    17 Washington Boyd Gordon
    18 Los Angeles Denis Grebeshkov
    19 Phoenix Jakub Koreis
    20 Buffalo Daniel Paille
    21 Chicago Anton Babchuk
    22 NY Islanders Sean Bergenheim
    23 Phoenix Ben Eager
    24 Toronto Alexander Steen
    25 Carolina Cam Ward
    26 Dallas Martin Vagner
    27 San Jose Mike Morris
    28 Colorado Jonas Johansson
    29 Boston Hannu Toivonen
    30 Atlanta Jim Slater


    2001:
    1 Atlanta Ilya Kovalchuk
    2 Ottawa Jason Spezza
    3 Tampa Bay Alexandr Svitov
    4 Florida Stephen Weiss
    5 Anaheim Stanislav Chistov
    6 Minnesota Mikko Koivu
    7 Mtl. Canadiens Mike Komisarek
    8 Columbus Pascal Leclaire
    9 Chicago Tuomo Ruutu
    10 NY Rangers Dan Blackburn
    11 Phoenix Fredrik Sjostrom
    12 Nashville Dan Hamhuis
    13 Edmonton Ales Hemsky
    14 Calgary Chuck Kobasew
    15 Carolina Igor Knyazev
    16 Vancouver R.J. Umberger
    17 Toronto Carlo Colaiacovo
    18 Los Angeles Jens Karlsson
    19 Boston Shaone Morrisonn
    20 San Jose Marcel Goc
    21 Pittsburgh Colby Armstrong
    22 Buffalo Jiri Novotny
    23 Ottawa Tim Gleason
    24 Florida Lukas Krajicek
    25 Mtl. Canadiens Alexander Perezhogin
    26 Dallas Jason Bacashihua
    27 Philadelphia Jeff Woywitka
    28 New Jersey Adrian Foster
    29 Chicago Adam Munro
    30 Los Angeles Dave Steckel
     
  5. HockeyGuy1011

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    how is fleury not in there?? also, what about horton instead of hemsky
     
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    1.Ilya Kovalchuk ( ATL )
    2.Rich Nash ( CLB )
    3.M-A Fleury ( PIT )
    4.Jason Spezza ( OTT )
    5.Joni Pitkanen ( PHI )
    6.Jay Bouwmeester ( FLO )
    7.Eric Staal ( CAR )
    8.Nathan Horton ( FLO )
    9.Kari Lehtonen ( ATL )
    10.Nikolai Zherdev ( CLB )
    11.Ales Hemsky ( EDM )
    12.Dion Phaneuf ( CGY )
    13.Tuomo Ruutu ( CHI )
    14.Stanislav Chistov ( ANA )
    15.Pierre-Marc Bouchard ( MIN )
    16.Milan Michalek ( S-J )
    17.Thomas Vanek ( BUF )
    18.Joeffrey Lupul ( ANA )
    19.Ryan Suter ( NSH )
    20.Mike Komisarek ( MTL )
    21.Andrei Kastitsyn ( MTL )
    22.Braydon Coburn ( ATL )
    23.Stephen Weiss ( FLO )
    24.Alexander Semin ( WAS )
    24.Steve Eminger ( WAS )
    25.Scott Upshall ( NSH )
    26.Ryan Whitney ( PIT )
    27.Jeff Carter ( PHI )
    28.Alexandr Svitov ( TAM )
    29.Dan Hamhuis ( NSH )
    30.Mikko Koivu ( MIN )
    31.Dan Blackburn ( NYR )

    Winner are with 3 each
    ATL ( Lehtonen Kovalchuk and Coburn )
    FLO ( Horton Bouwmeester and Weiss )
    NSH ( Suter Upshall and Hamhuis )

    I Hope i didn't forget anybody
     
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    My top 20 would be:

    1.) M-A Fleury (03)
    2.) Ilya Kovalchuk (01)
    3.) Rick Nash (02)
    4.) Joni Pitkanen (02)
    5.) Kari Lehtonen (02)
    6.) Jay Bouwmeester (02)
    7.) Jason Spezza (01)
    8.) Eric Staal (03)
    9.) Nathan Horton (03)
    10.) Patrice Bergeron (03)
    11.) Nikolai Zherdev (03)
    12.) Stephen Weiss (01)
    13.) Ales Hemsky (01)
    14.) Pascal Leclaire (01)
    15.) Joffrey Lupul (02)
    16.) Pierre-Marc Bouchard (02)
    17.) Dion Phaneuf (03)
    18.) Zach Parise (03)
    19.) Stanislav Chistov (02)
    20.) Ryan Suter (03)
     
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  8. canucksfan

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    Here's my top 20

    1.Nash
    2.Kovlachuk
    3.Fleury
    4.Spezza
    5.Bouwmeester
    6.Piktanen
    7.Staal
    8.Horton
    9.Phaneuf
    10.Zherdev
    11.Lehtonen
    12.Weiss
    13.Hemsky
    14.Lupul
    15.Chistov
    16.Michalek
    17.Coburn
    18.Upshall
    19.Bergeron
    20.Bouchard
     
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    Where is Ruutu ??
    And I Agree that Richards play well in CHL and Even had a Great WJC but what did he do to be draft Over Kastitsyn ?
     
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    Why didn't you put Lehtonen higher?
     
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    I like this list. I would put nash before kovalchuk also. Becasue i believe he will bring more tothe table in the future.
     
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    I am not that high on Lehtonen. He will be a good goalie but I dont think he will be a franchise goalie.
     
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    Here's my list, I've ranked every 1st rounder (1st rounders only, hence no Bergeron, Koltsov etc)

    1. Ilya Kovalchuk
    2. Rick Nash
    3. Jason Spezza
    4. Marc-Andre Fleury
    5. Joni Pitkanen
    6. Jay Bouwmeester
    7. Khari Lehtonen
    8. Nikolai Zherdev
    9. Nathan Horton
    10. Eric Staal
    11. Ales Hemsky
    12. Tuomo Ruutu
    13. Stanislav Chistov
    14. Dion Phaneuf
    15. Tomas Vanek
    16. Hannu Toivonen
    17. Ryan Suter
    18. Zach Parise
    19. Joffrey Lupul
    20. Stephen Weiss
    21. Scott Upshall
    22. Lukas Krajicek
    23. Carlo Colaiacovo
    24. Ryan Whitney
    25. Alexander Semin
    26. Anton Babchuk
    27. Brent Burns
    28. Steve Eminger
    29. Pierre Marc Bouchard
    30. Andre Kostitsyn
    31. Alexander Perezhogin
    32. Christopher Higgins
    33. Dan Blackburn
    34. Keith Ballard
    35. Braydon Coburn
    36. Mike Komisarek
    37. Denis Grebeshkov
    38. Jeff Carter
    39. Milan Michalek
    40. Alexander Steen
    41. Alexander Svitov
    42. Dustin Brown
    43. Pascale Leclaire
    44. Mikko Koivu
    45. Dan Hamhuis
    46. Anthony Stewart
    47. Fredrik Sjostrom
    48. Mike Richards
    49. Robert Nilsson
    50. Chuck Kobasew
    51. Jeff Tambellini
    52. Sean Bergenheim
    53. Corey Perry
    54. Ryan Getzlaf
    55. Jeff Woywitka
    56. Hugh Jessiman
    57. Shaonne Morrison
    58. Shawn Belle
    59. Eric Fehr
    60. Steve Bernier
    61. Ryan Kesler
    62. Brent Seabrooke
    63. Jesse Niinimaki
    64. Patrick Eaves
    65. Adrian Foster
    66. Cam Ward
    67. Petr Taticek
    68. Mark Stuart
    69. RJ Umberger
    70. Eric Nystrom
    71. Jim Slater
    72. Boyd Gordon
    73. Tim Gleason
    74. Jason Bacashihua
    75. Igor Knyazev
    76. Marcel Goc
    77. Marc-Antoine Pouliot
    78. Daniel Paille
    79. Martin Vagner
    80. Brian Boyle
    81. Jonas Johansson
    82. Jakub Koreis
    83. Jens Karlsson
    84. Ben Eager
    85. Colby Armstrong
    86. Jakub Klepis
    87. Jiri Novotny
    88. Mike Morris
    89. Dave Steckel
    90. Adam Munro

    These are my personal rankings, clearly I am high on some players (Toivonen), and not very high on others (Pouliot).
    I'll accept any and all criticisms or questioning as long as it is constructive.
     
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    Great list! :)
     
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    Good idea of a post, and not at all an easy task. I'll give it a try:

    this is comprised of players drafted ONLY in the 1st round and does not include players drafted later who would now be higher (ie Grigorenko, Welch, etc...)

    1) Kovalcuk
    2) Fleury
    3) Bouwmeester
    4) Nash
    5) Pitkanen
    6) Spezza
    7) Lehtonen
    8) Staal
    9) Horton
    10) Phaneuf
    11) Suter
    12) Zherdev
    13) Coburn
    14) Hamhuis
    15) Carter
    16) Hemsky
    17) Parise
    18) Weiss
    19) Getzlaf
    20) Vanek
    21) Komisarek
    22) Whitney
    23) Lupul
    24) Michalek
    25) Burns
    26) Colaiacovo
    27) Ruutu
    28) Ballard
    29) Chistov
    30) A. Stewart
     
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    Um why is everyone putting Patrice Bergeron on their lists? Am I the only person that remembers he was taken in the 2nd round(45th overall) of the 2003 draft.
     
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    i don't know too much about gusy like bouchard, whitney, upshall, chistov...are they really that good, i havent seen much production out of them
    i know how high touted ruutu was, but he hasnt done anything this year

    if horton stayed healthy he woulda been high up in the ROY race

    goalies also should be high considering that is the heart of your team....there are about 3 key scorers like kovalchuk, nash, horton

    pitkanen easily wins on the defense category
     
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    i initally started the thread using guys from any rounds that year but it has just turned into strictly first rounders
     
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    Top ten

    1.Ilya Kovalchuk
    2.Rich Nash
    3.M-A Fleury
    4.Joni Pitkanen
    5.Jason Spezza
    6.Jay Bouwmeester
    7.Eric Staal
    8.Nathan Horton
    9.Kari Lehtonen
    10.Nikolai Zherdev
     
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    i disagree. kovalchuk is a more complete player. nash is pretty one-dimensional. all he really does is score goals (a good skill to have, to be sure). his goals-to-assists ratio is like 5:1, and his backchecking (or lack thereof) was one of gerrard gallant's first talking points when he took over as coach. spuddy specifically singled nash's defense out in his first interview - "just b/c he's scoring goals, he still needs to get back and work on d." nash is also a horrible skater and an average stickhandler.

    nash's style is also more team-oriented. kovalchuk creates opportunities. nash, for the most part, needs guys to drive the puck from the point and to dig the puck out of the corners b/c most of his goals are redirections and rebounds.

    i'd rank both of them before fleury, though. fleury hasn't really impressed me very much. he's got a lot of potential, but right now, it's just that - potential. he's a long term investment that's not even close to being cashed in. kovalchuk and nash will both be dominant players for at least another decade, but they're also getting it done now.

    1. kovalchuk.
    2. nash.
    3. fleury.
     
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    1. Kovalchuk
    2. Nash
    3. Fleury
    4. Pitkanen
    5. Bouwmeester
    6. Zherdev
    7. Staal
    8. Spezza
    9. Horton
    10. Hemsky
    11. Lupul
    12. Lehtonen
    13. Carter
    14. Bouchard
    15. Weiss

    The only reason I rated Lehtonen so low and Fleury so high is because one hasn't played NHL yet so we can't really judge him vs NHL-caliber shots...
     
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    I really like Horton, a lot, but I see a ton of upside with hemsky. Fleury does not impress me at all. I see him stuggling a lot soon, and becoming a weak unconfident goalie.

    I'll give the top 30 a go then.

    1.Nash
    2.Kovlachuk
    3.Spezza
    4.Bouwmeester
    5.Fleury
    6.Pitkanen
    7.Phaneuf
    8.Horton
    9.Staal
    10.Zherdev
    11.Lehtonen
    12.Weiss
    13.Hemsky
    14.Chistov
    15.Michalek
    16.Lupul
    17.Coburn
    18.Upshall
    19.Bouchard
    20.Toivenen
    21.Suter
    22.Kobasew
    23.Hamhuis
    24.Carter
    25.Ruutu
    26.Eminger
    27.Komisarek
    28.Burns
    29.Kesler
    30.Stuart
     
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    1. Ilya Kovalchuk
    2. Rick Nash
    3. Joni Pitkanen
    4. Jason Spezza
    5. Eric Staal
    6. Jay Bouwmeester
    7. Marc-Andre Fleury
    8. Zach Parise
    9. Dion Phaneuf
    10. Kari Lehtonen
    11. Nathan Horton
    12. Nikolai Zherdev
    13. Tuomo Ruutu
    14. Stanislav Chistov
    15. Ryan Suter
    16. Ales Hemsky
    17. Patrice Bergeron
    18. Tomas Vanek
    19. Fredrik Sjostrom
    20. Stephen Weiss
     
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    my top 15
    1) Kovalcuk
    2) Fleury
    3) Bouwmeester
    4) Nash
    5) Spezza
    6) Pitkanen
    7) Lehtonen
    8) Staal
    9) Zherdev
    10) Phaneuf
    11) Suter
    12) Horton
    13) Coburn
    14) Weiss
    15) Ruutu
     
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