1992 NHL Draft

[hgo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_NHL_Entry_Draft

I'm looking through the names. Is it me or does this seem like one of the weakest draft classes in history? No HOFers in that draft, no late picks to write home about, a lot of 1st round busts, etc...

There were some All-Stars in there, but it just seems like a particularly weak class to me.

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[LidstrOrrm*]

Good analysis. Having a marginal defenseman like Hamrlik as no 1 and Rathje as no 3strikes me as a good proof of a weak draft. Alexei Yashin could have been much more, but we all know what happened. Khabibulin had a few good seasons, but thats it.

 

[tony d]

Yeah it was a weak draft but players like Cory Stillman, Sergei Gonchar and Martin Straka have had pretty good careers.

 

[Heat McManus]

Yeah, that draft was brutal. It's battling with this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NHL_Entry_Draft

 

[Brodeur]

I was looking up Andrei Nazarov yesterday (with regards to when he got traded in 1998), and I found it interesting the Sharks got the 10th overall pick from Minnesota to promise to not select prospect Mike Craig in the 1991 expansion/dispersal draft (along with a 2nd rounder in 1991).

Just seems like teams might have known ahead of time that the 1992 Draft was looking a bit weak. The '92 Draft was fun to read about since the actual draft took a backseat to the whole Lindros being traded twice debacle.

 

[Stephen]

1992, 1996 and 1999 are some of the worst drafts ever, while 1995, 1997 and 1994 weren't particularly deep. Probably one of the reasons why there seem to be way more exciting and dominating young players in the league now compared with 10 years ago.

 

[Stephen]

I was looking up Andrei Nazarov yesterday (with regards to when he got traded in 1998), and I found it interesting the Sharks got the 10th overall pick from Minnesota to promise to not select prospect Mike Craig in the 1991 expansion/dispersal draft (along with a 2nd rounder in 1991).

Just seems like teams might have known ahead of time that the 1992 Draft was looking a bit weak. The '92 Draft was fun to read about since the actual draft took a backseat to the whole Lindros being traded twice debacle.

Heh, too bad they didn't know Mike Craig sucked too. At least they ripped off the Leafs later.

 

[Big Phil]

If the closest thing to a Hall of Famer from the '92 draft is Khabibulin then that says something. Nice career, but will not be in the Hall of Fame. As for Yashin, well the less we mention his name around here the better.

Of course the '96 draft wasnt too deep either. With the exception of Chara, none are destined for the Hall (including Briere). And even Chara has some work to do

 

[Hank Chinaski]

The doozy pick of that draft was at #17, where Jets GM Mike Smith went off the draft board and picked up Russian d-man Sergei Bautin, who went on to an illustrious NHL career. Bautin, you should keep in mind, was 25 at the time (could have been signed as a free agent), and apparently wasn't even on most teams radar.

Between combing his hair with a shovel and starting fights with Phil Housley, ol' Mikey loved mortgaging the Jets future at the expense of flaunting how much he knew about obscure Russians...

 

[Stephen]

If the closest thing to a Hall of Famer from the '92 draft is Khabibulin then that says something. Nice career, but will not be in the Hall of Fame. As for Yashin, well the less we mention his name around here the better.

Of course the '96 draft wasnt too deep either. With the exception of Chara, none are destined for the Hall (including Briere). And even Chara has some work to do

Chara's no hall of famer.

 

[Fish on The Sand]

I don'tget it, you say no hall of famers but then I see this...

50. Patrick Traverse - Ottawa Senators

 

[Teemu]

Between combing his hair with a shovel and starting fights with Phil Housley, ol' Mikey loved mortgaging the Jets future at the expense of flaunting how much he knew about obscure Russians...

...Like the goalie he picked eight rounds later?

 

[MS]

...Like the goalie he picked eight rounds later?

Exactly ... as much as Smith overdid it and as bad as the Bautin pick was, any sort of draft analysis will tell you that Winnipeg was above-average during the Smith years from about 1988-1993. Took loads of quality players, including Selanne, Tkachuk, Zhamnov, Khabibulin, Mironov, Barnes, etc. To say that he mortgaged the future of the team couldn't be further from the truth.

And as much as Bautin sucked, he still played more NHL games than 9 other #1 picks in that draft, and only 5 of the next 15 picks played more games than him.

It should be noted as well that there was a rumour awhile back that the Jets actually wanted to draft Sergei Brylin (#40 to NJD in that draft) but somehow got confused and selected the wrong player.

 

[Heat McManus]

Exactly ... as much as Smith overdid it and as bad as the Bautin pick was, any sort of draft analysis will tell you that Winnipeg was above-average during the Smith years from about 1988-1993. Took loads of quality players, including Selanne, Tkachuk, Zhamnov, Khabibulin, Mironov, Barnes, etc. To say that he mortgaged the future of the team couldn't be further from the truth.

And as much as Bautin sucked, he still played more NHL games than 9 other #1 picks in that draft, and only 5 of the next 15 picks played more games than him.

It should be noted as well that there was a rumour awhile back that the Jets actually wanted to draft Sergei Brylin (#40 to NJD in that draft) but somehow got confused and selected the wrong player.

LOL. That just made my day.

 

[Big Phil]

Chara's no hall of famer.

No, not yet. Give him time, I dont think he is on the wrong path though, is a Norris Candidate again this year

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Exactly ... as much as Smith overdid it and as bad as the Bautin pick was, any sort of draft analysis will tell you that Winnipeg was above-average during the Smith years from about 1988-1993. Took loads of quality players, including Selanne, Tkachuk, Zhamnov, Khabibulin, Mironov, Barnes, etc. To say that he mortgaged the future of the team couldn't be further from the truth.

Huh? Selanne was picked in '88, when Fergie was still in charge. Tkachuk, Zhamnov and Barnes were at the very beginning of Smith's tenure ('89 and '90) with scouts largely from the Ferguson era. Starting around the '91 draft, he adopted the strategy of drafting overaged guys from the former Soviet Union. Those drafts, from about '91 to '93, had Smitty's fingerprints all over them, pure and simple.

Mortgaging their future is actually the wrong word; Smith's strategy went part and parcel with the Jets cash-strapped business plan; basically, drafting overage Russians was the cheapest, most efficient way for the Jets to ice a semi-competitive team.

His drafts yielded two great players (Khabby and Numminen), a couple guys who were good in the short term (Ulanov and Mironov)...and then a whole bunch of guys who never even came to NA. His style went against all conventional wisdom on how to build a team through the draft, and it really didn't work in the end. Smitty was a renegade, he did things his own way...unfortunately, nobody will be following his management model anytime soon.

Sorry to turn this thread into a soapbox to vent my anti-Mike Smith rhetoric

 

[Jumptheshark]

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1992e.html

for those who like looking at numbers

 

[Jumptheshark]

late picks

adrian aucoin
rem murrey
ian lapariere
stephen yelle
The Buhlin wall went at 204
Anson Carter in the 10t round
Dan Mcgilis in the 10th
Nathen Dempey went in the 11th round and played 260 games in thenhl

 

[Jumptheshark]

Yeah, that draft was brutal. It's battling with this one:

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NHL_Entry_Draft"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NHL_Entry_Draft[/URL]

1999 was not hyped being a deep draft---92 was supposed to have some keepers

 

[Nalyd Psycho]

When Mike Peca is the best player from a draft, it's bad. Lehtinen and Khabibulin were steals.

99 at least has the Sedins, Zetterburg and Havlat.

'96, uggh, Briere is the best scorer, Pahlsson's a gem, but no Peca. Three good d-men in Philips, Chara and Kaberle. Probably equally bad to '92.

All three may produce no Hall of Famers though...