Post-Game Talk: #16 | Flyers at Blue Jackets | November 15, 2022 | 7:30 PM |

[PDX Flyer]

Now Tortsie is being defended by his ability to take a horse kick to the face.

 

[FlyerNutter]

The Flyers haven’t had an offense first coach since the start of the 2013 season in Laviolette.

Funny how it’s been a decade of boring, and shit hockey since.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Apparently he was kicked in the face by his horse.

Flyers MVP Race,,
1. Hart
2. TK
3. Trigger

Torts is not Hakstol, he doesn't run a defensive oriented system.

He's as advertised, an aggressive forecheck with D-men pinching to maintain pressure in the O-zone, leading to odd man rushes against when it doesn't work, which is why he puts so much stress on back checking, to limit the time those rushes have to make plays.

So you admit neither aspect of his systems works anymore correct ?

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I would like to know if that data exists somewhere @JojoTheWhale I think I've asked this before, but do you know of any site that has time on stick tracking numbers?

To the best of my knowledge, you would need a high dollar premium source for that.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Now Tortsie is being defended by his ability to take a horse kick to the face.

That you are bothered by it says a lot more about you than it does me.

 

[deadhead]

Flyers MVP Race,,
1. Hart
2. TK
3. Trigger



So you admit neither aspect of his systems works anymore correct ?

Flyers are putting up nice metrics the last six games, helps to play weaker competition, also helps to have some time in a new scheme.
Takes time to break ingrained habits, like blindly throwing the puck up the boards to try and exit the D-zone.
Or to properly cycle to cover for the D-man attacking the O-zone.

 

[PDX Flyer]

That you are bothered by it says a lot more about you than it does me.

Not really. Never said I was bothered by it. Just that the weed butter kicked in and made laughing at your takes even easier

 

[Beef Invictus]

Years and years of this team obsessing over defense and purging all skill, creativity, and risky offensive initiative from the roster is really shining through. That's against a Columbus roster that's more wrecked than ours.

Tortorella has now twice buried half his roster on the bench to close a big chunk of gametime, before relying on gassed players in OT for a loss:

^^Of course, the roster is so bad it's hard to blame him conceptually, but there are some questionable decisions and evaluations in here. The execution isn't good.

As seen here, some of the wrong line combos were being emphasized:

 

[Curufinwe]

Overplaying the top line is so dumb. It's November.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Oh and I haven't done a dive into Laughton yet but per the eye test for a while now he seems to be playing absolutely great out there. Lots of little things going right. Bit of an unsung hero, perhaps.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Overplaying the top line is so dumb. It's November.

Games before December don't count, or something.

 

[FlyerNutter]

Oh and I haven't done a dive into Laughton yet but per the eye test for a while now he seems to be playing absolutely great at there. Lots of little things going right. Bit of an unsung hero, perhaps.

Thats future captain Scott Laughton

 

[FlyerNutter]

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Years and years of this team obsessing over defense and purging all skill, creativity, and risky offensive initiative from the roster is really shining through. That's against a Columbus roster that's more wrecked than ours.

Tortorella has now twice buried half his roster on the bench to close a big chunk of gametime, before relying on gassed players in OT for a loss:

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^^Of course, the roster is so bad it's hard to blame him conceptually, but there are some questionable decisions and evaluations in here. The execution isn't good.

As seen here, some of the wrong line combos were being emphasized:

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What in the flying f*** is that middle chart. Like that 0,1 computer language.

Also who in their right mind tracks this stuff. Nerds

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Not really. Never said I was bothered by it. Just that the weed butter kicked in and made laughing at your takes even easier

Oh, I think you’re irate & are using the weed butter to medicate your rage. You don’t have to lie.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Any idea of what their overall record is...how many games they should have won this year?

Columbus - 42.3% OTL
Dallas - 38.1% L
Ottawa - 54.3% L
Columbus - 65.9% L
St. Louis - 50.3% W
Ottawa - 43.9% W
Toronto - 9.7% L
New York - 11.7% OTL
Carolina - 46.8% OTL
Florida - 10.6% W
San Jose - 57% L
Nashville - 35.5% W
Florida - 35.3% L
Tampa Bay - 36.3% W
Vancouver - 71.8% W
New Jersey - 41.4% W

 

[Beef Invictus]

What in the flying f*** is that middle chart. Like that 0,1 computer language.

Also who in their right mind tracks this stuff. Nerds

Imagine a carpet made of jam.

 

[PDX Flyer]

Oh, I think you’re irate & are using the weed butter to medicate your rage. You don’t have to lie.

lol take it easy. You just can’t take stop ehh?

 

[Audible Velvet]

Columbus - 42.3% OTL
Dallas - 38.1% L
Ottawa - 54.3% L
Columbus - 65.9% L
St. Louis - 50.3% W
Ottawa - 43.9% W
Toronto - 9.7% L
New York - 11.7% OTL
Carolina - 46.8% OTL
Florida - 10.6% W
San Jose - 57% L
Nashville - 35.5% W
Florida - 35.3% L
Tampa Bay - 36.3% W
Vancouver - 71.8% W
New Jersey - 41.4% W

Would you explain roughly how these are determined?

 

[VladDrag]

To the best of my knowledge, you would need a high dollar premium source for that.

Now that I think about it, all three zones tracks dz,nz,oz touches, I believe. It’s not exactly what I want, but I could do some evaluation that way.

 

[Tripod]

Columbus - 42.3% OTL
Dallas - 38.1% L
Ottawa - 54.3% L
Columbus - 65.9% L
St. Louis - 50.3% W
Ottawa - 43.9% W
Toronto - 9.7% L
New York - 11.7% OTL
Carolina - 46.8% OTL
Florida - 10.6% W
San Jose - 57% L
Nashville - 35.5% W
Florida - 35.3% L
Tampa Bay - 36.3% W
Vancouver - 71.8% W
New Jersey - 41.4% W

So really deserved to win 4, 11 losses and one tie(Stl).

Sounds about right

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Would you explain roughly how these are determined?

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[Audible Velvet]

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Thank you

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Thats future captain Scott Laughton

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Not really. Never said I was bothered by it. Just that the weed butter kicked in and made laughing at your takes even easier