GDT: #14 Coyote VS Island @ Gila (He-lah) River Casino. I mean..Arena

[Desert Ice 11]

Third time shut out this season. :|

 

[rt]

Is it just me or does Mikkel Boedker look almost exactly like some other worldly combination of hockey gods Sidney Crosby and Jaromir Jagr in their prime years about once every ten games. Then the other nine out of ten he looks like some mundane, underwhelming combo of Sam Gagner and Magnus Pajaarvi. The maddening part is he frequently gets this two (1/10) elite level games out of the way back-to-back and then crawls back into that mediocre shell for another 15-20. He's never bad. He's never really good. He's either elite every once in a while or terribly average most of the time.

 

[rt]

Oh, and when is OEL going to pull his head out of his ass? If we could get those two going for real, like we know they can go, along with Smith seemingly being awake (finally), we could probably win a lot of hockey games.

 

[KG]

Is it just me or does Mikkel Boedker look almost exactly like some other worldly combination of hockey gods Sidney Crosby and Jaromir Jagr in their prime years about once every ten games. Then the other nine out of ten he looks like some mundane, underwhelming combo of Sam Gagner and Magnus Pajaarvi. The maddening part is he frequently gets this two (1/10) elite level games out of the way back-to-back and then crawls back into that mediocre shell for another 15-20. He's never bad. He's never really good. He's either elite every once in a while or terribly average most of the time.

He really lacks consistency. I don't know what it is. He was demoted a line but I feel like he should be producing with Ganger and Korpi. and he's been particularly underwhelming on the PP.

 

[XX]

He really lacks consistency. I don't know what it is.

Goes back to how he was treated when he entered the league by Tip. A lot of nights he was focused on not messing up while on a line with a bunch of worthless grinders.

He would probably break out immediately upon being traded, which is the scary part.

Oh, and when is OEL going to pull his head out of his ass? If we could get those two going for real, like we know they can go, along with Smith seemingly being awake (finally), we could probably win a lot of hockey games.

Thought his last two games were his best this year.

 

[KG]

That's big stretch to make, XX. You can't say that he's inconsistent because he's afraid of getting benched by Tip for making a mistake. What are you basing that on? It's a complete extrapolation. It could be any number, or combination of factors.

 

[XX]

You can't say that he's inconsistent because he's afraid of getting benched by Tip for making a mistake.

I wasn't implying that. He has pretty much earned the trust of Tip at this point. I'm saying that the hitch in his game (his inconsistency and hesitation) is an artifact of how he was brought into the league.

 

[KG]

Yeah true. It took him all the way up to this point to even start shooting the damn puck.

 

[wingnutks]

The Coyotes section on HF is like that weird girl that nobody talks to at the party but you hang out with her anyway because you feel bad and it turns out she's kinda funny so you sort of enjoy yourself, then after a few drinks you say **** it and try to make a move, then she punches you in the face, throws her drink on you, calls your mom fat (without knowing she's an incredibly nice woman) and walks out the room smug as **** while doing double finger guns.

So yeah, feel free to stop by for the next game.

In!

 

[zerekstar]

I wasn't implying that. He has pretty much earned the trust of Tip at this point. I'm saying that the hitch in his game (his inconsistency and hesitation) is an artifact of how he was brought into the league.

That may be true but it's time to grow up and stop with all the excuses. He is in a healthy environment with Doan, Yandle, Vermette, and company. I am sure they encourage him a lot. He needs to believe in himself and just do it.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Fellas, we're not going to be an offensive juggernaut this season. We'll be lucky to average 2.50 goals per game.

We just don't have the talent to be able to score consistently.

As most have said, we've got one 2nd line, one 3rd line and two 4th lines. That isn't a recipe for success, which is why I'm always spouting that we need to upgrade the two 4th lines into another two 3rd lines.

Having one 2nd line and 3 3rd lines would help tremendously with our scoring wows...which is why I'm always saying we need an upgrade for Chips/Crombeen and McMillan. We need to put guys in that can score. Tipp wants scoring by committee, but he's not getting it, because his committee choices can't score.

We'd have better success with Samuelsson taking Crombeen's spot and Lessio taking McMillan's spot. Put Rieder on the PK, I'm sure he's better than McMillan at it anyway, as he had quite a few shorties in the AHL

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Is it just me or does Mikkel Boedker look almost exactly like some other worldly combination of hockey gods Sidney Crosby and Jaromir Jagr in their prime years about once every ten games. Then the other nine out of ten he looks like some mundane, underwhelming combo of Sam Gagner and Magnus Pajaarvi. The maddening part is he frequently gets this two (1/10) elite level games out of the way back-to-back and then crawls back into that mediocre shell for another 15-20. He's never bad. He's never really good. He's either elite every once in a while or terribly average most of the time.

Yeah, I've noticed this too. Kinda explains a bit why he didn't get that giant contract he was hoping for last time... and might be why he doesn't get the payday he's looking for this year either.

 

[hbk]

Is it just me or does Mikkel Boedker look almost exactly like some other worldly combination of hockey gods Sidney Crosby and Jaromir Jagr in their prime years about once every ten games. Then the other nine out of ten he looks like some mundane, underwhelming combo of Sam Gagner and Magnus Pajaarvi. The maddening part is he frequently gets this two (1/10) elite level games out of the way back-to-back and then crawls back into that mediocre shell for another 15-20. He's never bad. He's never really good. He's either elite every once in a while or terribly average most of the time.

Are we nearing a point on Boedker where we need to walk away? At what number do we extend? He'll be looking for term at a number starting with a 4 or 5. I'd be more willing to look at an extension if we thought he was going to be a 60 point guy who drives offense. His inconsistency is baffling.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Are we nearing a point on Boedker where we need to walk away? At what number do we extend? He'll be looking for term at a number starting with a 4 or 5. I'd be more willing to look at an extension if we thought he was going to be a 60 point guy who drives offense. His inconsistency is baffling.

Fellas, we need to give Bods some room, because he's not playing w/a consistent #1 center. It would be different if we had a legitimate #1 who was feeding him the puck, but we don't.

Bods will become more consistent with better centers. Heck, I know he hasn't been out there with Hanzal, but I think he'd be far more effective with Hanzal than Vermette

 

[IPreferPi]

Fellas, we need to give Bods some room, because he's not playing w/a consistent #1 center. It would be different if we had a legitimate #1 who was feeding him the puck, but we don't.

Bods will become more consistent with better centers. Heck, I know he hasn't been out there with Hanzal, but I think he'd be far more effective with Hanzal than Vermette

I think Boedker had some time with Hanzal and Vrby back in the lockout season and although he didn't look too out of place, he wasn't producing all that much either with them.

Still all boils down to "WTB Franchise 1C"

 

[Thor Savage]

He really lacks consistency. I don't know what it is. He was demoted a line but I feel like he should be producing with Ganger and Korpi. and he's been particularly underwhelming on the PP.

Seems like Korpi is in better position to get the scoring chances than Boedker, unfortunately Korpi can't finish. Doesn't make sense why Boedker is not more productive playing with Gagner.

 

[Bonsai Tree]

Boedker, from what I've seen, isn't willing to take the physical pounding necessary in order to score the ugly goals. He only seems willing to score the "pretty" goals. That's just my opinion from watching the games at the Monster. I can't tell much from the TV feed.

 

[Sciamachy]

Boedker hasn't scored a goal in 11 games and still leads the team in goals. When every team in the league knows you have no scoring threat from your forwards it makes it easy to key in on the one or two guys that can actually put the puck in the net. Boeds is good, but he's not a game-breaker. Without proper support other teams will shut him down because no one else picks up the slack with any consistency.

 

[cobra427]

Seems like Korpi is in better position to get the scoring chances than Boedker, unfortunately Korpi can't finish. Doesn't make sense why Boedker is not more productive playing with Gagner.

If Korpi could ever finish, he would be in the top 3 in goals on this team. He has had great looks, that Doan/OEL/Yandle/Bods would finish. Too bad. Bods has not had as many looks lately but I think he just needs to shoot more instead of waiting for the perfect opportunity. He is solid in all 3 zones though, but we need him to score.

 

[BAdvocate]

Boedker hasn't scored a goal in 11 games and still leads the team in goals. When every team in the league knows you have no scoring threat from your forwards it makes it easy to key in on the one or two guys that can actually put the puck in the net. Boeds is good, but he's not a game-breaker. Without proper support other teams will shut him down because no one else picks up the slack with any consistency.

Meanwhile in the land of milk and honey with no shackles or deterrents to offense Kyle Turris has 2 goals and 6 assists in 14 games.

 

[Grimes]

Meanwhile in the land of milk and honey with no shackles or deterrents to offense Kyle Turris has 2 goals and 6 assists in 14 games.

I noticed that. What is going on with him? Any idea?

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

I noticed that. What is going on with him? Any idea?

Seems par for the course for him ppg wise aside from last year. He's 25, which should be the prime years of his career, and hasn't hit more than 60 points in a season. I think he's just hit his peak and its not as high as one might expect from a 3rd overall.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

I noticed that. What is going on with him? Any idea?

What's going on this season is that he has been asked to cover the #1 center role, whereas last season he was covering the #2 center role with Spezza taking the #1.

Completely different set of defenders get you when you're the #1 vs. the #2

 

[Grimes]

What's going on this season is that he has been asked to cover the #1 center role, whereas last season he was covering the #2 center role with Spezza taking the #1.

Completely different set of defenders get you when you're the #1 vs. the #2

So his true colors of a good 2C are coming out?

So in the end we got Vermette and Dvorak for Turris. This transaction may end up being fairly kind to us.

 

[XX]

So his true colors of a good 2C are coming out?

So in the end we got Vermette and Dvorak for Turris. This transaction may end up being fairly kind to us.

Dvorak may end up a 50 pt two way type so yeah, good trade as of right now. Still not what you want to show for having picked that high, though. Let's not forget that. Or Wheeler. Or Mueller.