“Homegrown” cap discount

[Machinehead]

There is a system in place to regulate the contract demands from players coming off their Entry Level Contracts.
Don't sign them to the contracts the players demand.
The players don't have arbitration rights, they can sit at home and earn nothing while stagnating their development.

It's the same thing over and over. General Managers find new ways to screw themselves and then look to the CBA reworks in order to prevent them from screwing themselves as badly in the future.

Nylander has shown us that players are happy to do so.

This isn't a good enough incentive for good drafting.

 

[TRASHCAT]

How bout cap relief for cup winners!

 

[Spazkat]

Yes, lets reward tanking and perpetual basement dwellers even more.

If you suck enough not only will you get high draft picks we'll let you have the best one for free!

 

[StreetHawk]

There is a system in place to regulate the contract demands from players coming off their Entry Level Contracts.
Don't sign them to the contracts the players demand.
The players don't have arbitration rights, they can sit at home and earn nothing while stagnating their development.

It's the same thing over and over. General Managers find new ways to screw themselves and then look to the CBA reworks in order to prevent them from screwing themselves as badly in the future.

Parity in the league will dictate that GMs will sign players.

Can the following teams afford to not have these guys signed for the first 1/3 of next season and make the playoffs?

Rantanen, Tkachuk, Aho, etc? I would say no. So they will pay. How many GMs can take the chance of missing the playoffs when it’s that tight?

Thus when the others like Point, Marner etc see what those guys get that helps their case to get the same.

If you want teams to maximize their position they can do what MLB does but here’s what Bryce Harper got from the Nationals. He played 7 seasons in the majors and is now a free agent. He is coming off a $21.6 million 1 year deal. Prior to that it was an arbitration award of around $13.6 million. Before that it was a 2 year deal worth a total of $7.5 million. And he got a 5 year $9.9 million deal after he got drafted at age 18. Not sure how mlb contracts work since that totals 9 years and it’s been 8 years since he signed and he played 7 years in the majors. But you can see the spike in salaries.

And now In free agency he’s expected to get $33-35 million per year.

So mlb puts a huge premium of ufa years. Harper earned like $16 million over his first 5 years in the bigs and $35 million over the past 2. Is that how nhl teams want to operate?

Even players won’t agree to what the OP is proposing unless those amounts are not part of their 50% share which the owners won’t agree to. So the escrow for players would go up, not something they are interested in.

 

[Butch 19]

In the next CBA there really needs to be some provision to give teams some cap relief for salary caps of players they drafted. With RFAs these days demanding to get paid like UFAs, something like that is needed to allow teams to keep players together for a few years. Either something like 15% of the cap of drafted players not counting against the cap OR 1 team drafted player whose salary does not count against the cap (and the player that this provision applies to can be changed at the team's discretion).

NHLPA would love this and the NHL could even use this as a carrot to avoid a lockout.

?? not all of them. What if after a contract expires, a UFA wants to test the waters to see how he can get on the open market?

He would have to leave money on the table to leave the team that drafted him.

What if NYI could have offered Tavares another 4 or 5 million with no cap hit?

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I like it. It’s like the “bird rule”/“bird rights” in the NBA kinda.

 

[Prairie Habs]

I don't know why the OP thinks that RFA status was designed to give young players a lower salary than UFA players. It was designed to give teams an opportunity to keep their young players if other teams tried to sign them away. Its the fact that GMs are too cowardly to give offer sheets that has led to RFAs having no leverage and signing lower deals. The idea that players should be underpaid during their most productive years, then sign inflated cap burden contracts when they hit their late 20's/early 30's is what is ruining team's cap situations.

Also, anything that discourages player movement should be immediately dismissed. Rosters are already too stagnant as is.

 

[Sojourn]

In theory it isn’t a bad idea, but only in theory. In actual practice you would end up rewarding teams who sucked for extended periods of time and had the opportunity to draft high.

Not only that, but you’d set them up to have an advantage over teams who tried to be competitive over that span.

It’s a bad idea. We shouldn’t be encouraging teams even more to hoard high draft picks. The advantage of having a talented player should be enough encouragement. You further add to the issue by discouraging trading for high talent players.

 

[stampedingviking]

In the next CBA there really needs to be some provision to give teams some cap relief for salary caps of players they drafted. With RFAs these days demanding to get paid like UFAs, something like that is needed to allow teams to keep players together for a few years. Either something like 15% of the cap of drafted players not counting against the cap OR 1 team drafted player whose salary does not count against the cap (and the player that this provision applies to can be changed at the team's discretion).

NHLPA would love this and the NHL could even use this as a carrot to avoid a lockout.

No, it's fine as it is.

 

[67 others]

In the next CBA there really needs to be some provision to give teams some cap relief for salary caps of players they drafted. With RFAs these days demanding to get paid like UFAs, something like that is needed to allow teams to keep players together for a few years. Either something like 15% of the cap of drafted players not counting against the cap OR 1 team drafted player whose salary does not count against the cap (and the player that this provision applies to can be changed at the team's discretion).

NHLPA would love this and the NHL could even use this as a carrot to avoid a lockout.

Sure provided they add a similar provision making it so players acquired via UFA cost 15% more vs the cap. Gotta prevent teams from loading up with no consequences

 

[ScaredStreit]

The problem is teams handing out ridiculous contract after ridiculous contract.

 

[RebuildinVan]

A loophole so the GMs can save themselves from them themselves?