Luongo is not a compiler. Top 10 SV% ever with one of the highest GP ever. With over half his career on the Panthers.Luongo gets in as a compiler. He was good for a long time with a couple peaks near greatness.
But none of the Vancouver guys really scream 1st ballot. Any defense of the Sedins involves “twins” which really shouldn’t matter.
But playing in Canada and it being neat to induct all 3 at the same time gets them in.
All I can say is Z better get in next year.
No personal hardware. No Stanley cup. A gold medal as starter. He was very good for a long time.Luongo is not a compiler.
Edited that post to expand on my thoughts -No personal hardware. No Stanley cup. A gold medal as starter. He was very good for a long time.
He’s basically the definition of a compiler. It’s what sets him above other goalies that are not in the Hall.
Compilers would be guys who compile wins or games played.Top 10 SV% ever with one of the highest GP ever. With over half his career on the Panthers.
I'll take the goalie that puts up .920 every year over the guys who run super hot/cold like Fleury, any day.
But, it usually take some significant awards or medals to make the resume. Not just finishing high in the voting.Edited that post to expand on my thoughts -
Compilers would be guys who compile wins or games played.
You can only compile a top 10 SV% by being really f***ing good at stopping the puck.
He had .931 and .928 SV% seasons where he didn't get a Vezina. Kinda silly like how Shea Weber never won a Norris.But, it usually take some significant awards or medals to make the resume. Not just finishing high in the voting.
Luongo is not a compiler. Top 10 SV% ever with one of the highest GP ever. With over half his career on the Panthers.
I'll take the goalie that puts up .920 every year over the guys who run super hot/cold like Fleury, any day.
Don't remember Mogilny's career all that much. From a simple glance at his stats, looks like he dealt with injuries consistently. But a 76 goal season?! Jesus.Luongo was the only worthy first ballot hall of famer in that bunch. Neither the Sedins nor Z should have been in this year. Mogilny should have been in, he was the first soviet player to defect, the first European captain and has enough team and individual accolades. Rod Brindamour should have been in as well. Zetterberg will go in and it will be well deserved, but I do like the symmetry of him and Datsyuk going in together.
No personal hardware. No Stanley cup. A gold medal as starter. He was very good for a long time.
He’s basically the definition of a compiler. It’s what sets him above other goalies that are not in the Hall.
No personal hardware. No Stanley cup. A gold medal as starter. He was very good for a long time.
He’s basically the definition of a compiler. It’s what sets him above other goalies that are not in the Hall.
What part wasn’t true?Not really true.
6 top 5 finishes in All Star award voting.
9 top 10 finishes in Vezina voting.
He was clearly among the very best goalies of his era.
He was good with Detroit but do his numbers really scream hall of fame?
There are plenty of deserving Hall of Famers without individual awards. Not winning awards doesn't necessarily make you a compiler. I've never thought of Luongo as a compiler. He had a great career. He'll be considered one of the weaker goalie choices in the HOF but I believe he's a worthy inductee.What part wasn’t true?
Top 5 and top 10 finishes are not winning awards. And I said he was very good for a long time.
Your statements confirm what I said. It doesn’t contradict it.
What part wasn’t true?
Top 5 and top 10 finishes are not winning awards. And I said he was very good for a long time.
Your statements confirm what I said. It doesn’t contradict it.
In today’s society where every move panders to political correctness. I think it’s safe to say Theo Fleury will never get into the hall of fame. (Or even be considered)
You just have to read his book or scroll his current Twitter page. They would be too afraid of what he might say or do at the ceremony.
Which is a shame because he is a voice and advocate for child sexual assault survivors on top of all the greatness he achieved in Hockey.
Winning one award isn't as impressive as being in the top 5 for half a decade.
Osgood is the classic compiler.
Lots and lots and lots of compilation stats (wins), but only one top 5 Vezina finish.
If you can't finish top 5 at your position with some frequency, how can you expect to be named one of the best of all time?
But you don't have to win the award. Because sometimes you've got a God at your position (Gretzky, Orr, whoever)
Is Datsyuk eligible next year?
Would be cool to see them get in together.
Ozzy also never got the respect that the other goalies did at that time. They always said well he is good because of the team, well how come the sucky Osgood was the one to replace the great Hasek in 08, which if hadn't happened we may not have gotten our last Cup? Osgood was always underrated. If all it took was being on a good team, how come Roy didn't win more in Colorado? They had a good team for the same stretch as we did, yet we won more, and Ozzy was there for most of it.
He is/was technically still playing. Even if in the KHL, players generally don't become eligilble until 3 years after they played last.
Because he is no better than Tom Barrasso of the penguins. He was on the right team at the right time and compiled a ton of wins due to the team he was on.
Why all the angst? Better players, like Mogilny, still aren't in. Zetterberg will eventually get in...but IMO he's not a first ballot guy.