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I thought it was slightly high (was thinking more along the lines of 9 to 9.25 max)...but otherwise a good deal for someone who seems to hibernate every winter...
See above.
I think you missed my point, as well as RP. Seeing Kopi in a Vancouver uniform is the most obscene thing I could think of. I would sour on the ****ing NHL so fast it would be blinding.
I think watching Kopitar get 50 points a season on a soft as Charmin Vancouver team, all while collecting $12M AAV from them, would be hilarious.
HYORI 1963;112336927[B said:]Meh, if Carter were given the 1C linemates, responsibilities, and TOI, he MAY do just as well.[/B] Carter's a very good two way forward, who often gets overlooked, because of Kopi. To me, Carter is just as important to the kings as Kopi is. Who knows, with almost 50% less cap hit, he MAY be more valuable than Kopi.
The joke here is you think he can only score 50 points on a non defensive minded team...
Just curious but, Kopi doesn't get what he wants, doesn't sign with the Kings, who will replace him? And what does that tell the young guys? Work hard, lead the team in points, win two cups, and then walk? Kopitar wants to play for the Kings, he wants to get paid for his past, current, and future accomplishments. Do we say F off Kopi, we want people produce more and earn less. Some of you guys sound like Sears and Safeway share holders. Who will want to go to a team that won't pay them for what they do?
Do some of you seriously expect Kopitar to start playing like Trevor Lewis now that he has his big contract??
I think watching Kopitar get 50 points a season on a soft as Charmin Vancouver team, all while collecting $12M AAV from them, would be hilarious.
He isn't going to score 70 points on any team in three or four years.
It's funny how those of you that are the most critical of anyone that doesn't go along with your, "Pay Kopitar whatever he wants." position have never posted a damn thing in the form of facts, or reason based opinion on the subject.
They tried that in Philly and Columbus
Literally no one has said that. Stop with the hyperbole. Your opposition is just criticizing your lack of (good) alternatives.
Hmm, I'm not sure about that. Seems like we are a good team the way with the way that kopitar currently plays. He generates a lot of shots for his teammates. Its Not like the kings aren't shooting when he's on the ice. I think Kopi needs to be a dominant 2 way center for our team to be successful.
This could be said of every team to ever play in the NHL. That doesn't mean you change anything. We have a core that has been very successful in the playoffs and is having a franchise best regular season. Stay the course.
It's higher than I would have liked to see. I'd have prefered in the $9 - $9.5 range.
Is he worth more than 9ish - yes. I was just hoping to see a lower number.
Edit: DL had no choice. All the other personnel moves were made assuming kopi was on the kings. The team is in win now mode and without kopi, the team doesn't contend.
He can still be a dominant 2-way center while scoring goals; he did it for years before Gaborik. Kopitar shooting and scoring more makes it tougher on the goaltender. There have been games where I have seen goalies cheat to Gaborik's side because they knew Kopi was thinking pass. It is the same thing with players like Getzlaf, Thornton, and Forsberg. Yes, they are great at what they do but even more effective when they can keep the goalie guessing by shooting.
There is still a lot of hockey left to be played and the Pacific is a lot closer than you think. We only have an 8 point lead and that is only four wins, a cold streak.
We do need to improve, and Kopitar scoring could play a huge part in that. Champions don't rest on their laurels, they constantly strive to be better.
We missed the playoffs last year by three points and Anze Kopitar scoring more that 16 goals likely would have seen us in.
They tried that in Philly and Columbus
He isn't going to score 70 points on any team in three or four years.
There is still a lot of hockey left to be played and the Pacific is a lot closer than you think. We only have an 8 point lead and that is only four wins, a cold streak.
We do need to improve, and Kopitar scoring could play a huge part in that. Champions don't rest on their laurels, they constantly strive to be better.
We missed the playoffs last year by three points and Anze Kopitar scoring more that 16 goals likely would have seen us in.
It's funny how those of you that are the most critical of anyone that doesn't go along with your, "Pay Kopitar whatever he wants." position have never posted a damn thing in the form of facts, or reason based opinion on the subject.
I'm sorry, but what's your basis for this claim?
As far as I recall, I have seen you dismiss some pretty detailed and well-supported arguments about how important Kopitar is to the Kings, and how difficult it would be to replace him, with some weak counter arguments in return. You have also claimed Kopitar is not really the Kings' most consistent forward, despite all evidence to the contrary (leading scorer for the last 8 seasons isn't enough?). I've also seen you make some pretty sweeping claims, which I would like to see you support.
There was your theory that a "one GM revolution" could radically change the landscape of player salaries, if he simply took a stand and said no. Has demand for top end talent not always outstripped supply in the past? Why wouldn't the other 29 GMs step up and pay for it? How does the revolution happen then? How does any GM get to ignore market realities?
There was your theory that all 30 GMs became deluded about future salary cap projections about 3-4 years ago. What's your evidence for that?
There was your theory that Kopitar could have been traded mid-season for the likes of 5'10" LW Tatar or 5'11" RW Nyquist and the Kings would still remain competitive. (What???)
There was also your theory that Kopitar's possession stats prove he is in decline as a 5v5 player. I'll save you the trouble of trying to misinterpret iCorsi again here. That's manifestly false.
If you want to put forth your arguments, fine, but claiming you're the only one who has ever cited facts is bizarre to me.
It's funny how those of you that are the most critical of anyone that doesn't go along with your, "Pay Kopitar whatever he wants." position have never posted a damn thing in the form of facts, or reason based opinion on the subject.
I am impressed with the continued *****ing about Kopitar across multiple threads. Some people really just don't get it and probably never will. At least it's entertaining.
Really 10-8.5=1.5... for 1.5M "overpay" the Kings should start looking for a new 1C.
I'm looking forward to the Kings making the playoffs with Kopitar leading the way.
Try reading it again:
I won't quibble with you about the rest, because almost all of it is out of context or is missing what I actually said.