GDT: Your New Jersey Devils (24-39-6) vs. New York Rangers, (44-20-6), 7 PM, MSG+2

[HersheyBob27]

Schneider has stunk this year, he can keep hitting guys for all I care. He doesn’t make a positive impact on games. He was really tough punching a guy over and over before he could even get his gloves off.

We’d kill for this player. Hes only 32 games into his 20 yr old season. Rangers worked us when the moved ahead to take him. Also shara should not be starting fights with anybody

 

[Peltz]

I have to say live, Panarin is floating so much I was surprised he didn’t end up in the rafters by the end of the game. Yes, he still produces and had some sweet passes but he’s a magical player and could do so much more if he was engaged.

Maybe he wakes up in the playoffs? Not sure that second line does much of anything if he doesn’t.

Even when he plays his best and most productive hockey, Panarin is a major "floater" through the neutral zone without the puck. That's been the way he plays for years now.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

We’d kill for this player. Hes only 32 games into his 20 yr old season. Rangers worked us when the moved ahead to take him. Also shara should not be starting fights with anybody

That's the point. He goes in to hug the guy, the other guy gets his gloves off and starts swinging.

And Yegor gets the instigator lol.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

We’d kill for this player. Hes only 32 games into his 20 yr old season. Rangers worked us when the moved ahead to take him. Also shara should not be starting fights with anybody

I would not draft a player like this in the 1st round. If you need the grit factor, find them for cheap and stick them on the 3rd pairing like what Calgary is doing.

 

[SJinNewJersey]

Studenic wouldn't have needed waivers if he never played the 1/08 game and then not again until 2/15.

Ty Smith could have been sent down to Utica.

Blaming Geertsen is just lazy. Geertsen can't put himself on waivers.

Who would you rather have, Studenic or Geertsen? I would rather have Studenic. I blame Fitz.

 

[Triumph]

Studenic became waivers eligible when he played 1/08. Then he was a healthy scratch until 2/13 (not 2/15 excuse me, that was his last game as a Devil).

He was healthy scratched again from after that 2/15 game until he was waived on 2/23. He could have played 18 games in Utica between 1/06 and 2/13. Why would you even recall him for two games at that point unless it was an emergency recall that doesn't affect waivers, if he's not in the NHL plan?

The point is that a team has no idea when they're going to need their healthy scratches. The Devils were relatively healthy in January and February, how did they know that was going to happen? Someone has to be an extra forward, it made sense for it to be Studenic. That's a fair point about emergency recall, I forgot that a player can play 10 games under emergency recall without it counting towards waivers. But the easiest thing to note is that Studenic had already cleared waivers. It's very surprising that he got claimed, in light of that.

 

[Buck Dancer]

Schneider has stunk this year, he can keep hitting guys for all I care. He doesn’t make a positive impact on games. He was really tough punching a guy over and over before he could even get his gloves off.

He's a rookie playing on a contender and was a fantastic pick. Maybe Sharangovich shouldn't of jumped the guy that hit Vesey in the first place, when the hit was clean? He got a beating for trying to act as a tough guy and got spanked for it.

If you're going to jump someone, you better be ready to answer the bell.

 

[My3Sons]

Don’t think it would be a bad thing taking Wright either, this allows Mercer to play wing which he looks more comfortable.

You figure a combination of Mercer/holtz will fill spots left open by Johansson and zacha/Tatar

Do you think Wright will be ready to step in at 2C behind Hughes right away if they move Mercer to wing on a more or less permanent basis?

 

[My3Sons]

He's a rookie playing on a contender and was a fantastic pick. Maybe Sharangovich shouldn't of jumped the guy that hit Vesey in the first place, when the hit was clean? He got a beating for trying to act as a tough guy and got spanked for it.

If you're going to jump someone, you better be ready to answer the bell.

Meh. Shara having to be the guy who responded is a symptom of the team's lack of compete at times. Hischier and Bratt have also felt compelled to drop the gloves. In what universe is that a good thing? Hopefully Shara just has a bruise or cut from the helmet being struck but at least he was willing to stand up for a teammate. On some level, in a lost year, on a lost team, at least he showed he cares.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

He's a rookie playing on a contender and was a fantastic pick. Maybe Sharangovich shouldn't of jumped the guy that hit Vesey in the first place, when the hit was clean? He got a beating for trying to act as a tough guy and got spanked for it.

If you're going to jump someone, you better be ready to answer the bell.

“Playing on a contender” is great. If the goalie wasn’t stopping 95% of shots when he was on the ice, he would be back in the AHL where he belongs.

 

[Bleedred]

I remember when it looked like it couldn’t get any worse than Blackwood back in December and January.

Both Gillies and Daws managed to prove me wrong on that one.

Ain’t it funny how they both have an identical percentage of goals I’ve counted stoppable?

Blackwood: 25 goals stoppable/70 goals against = 35.71%

Daws: 21 goals stoppable/59 goals against = 35.59%.

That brings the team count to 88 goals stoppable on 246 goals against. 35.77% for the team.

 

[theoptimist]

not saying i would have wanted to draft him instead but having one guy who can lay a big hit is something i wish this team had

Would have to go back to Subban's big hit on Kyle Connor for our 2019-2020 home opener. Side note, PK was flying that game

 

[AfroThunder396]

Last time we played the Rangers with a healthy lineup we dropped a touchdown on the best goalie in the world.

Last night we were missing essentially 1/3 of our starting forwards and they still only managed 15 ES shots and 17 shots total.

There were 5 total PPs in this game and a grand total of 2 PP shots the entire game. The Rangers had both shots and scored on each of them. We had 0 PP shots. That was the game.

They played a bad game and barely won because our special teams are awful.

 

[Blender]

Last time we played the Rangers with a healthy lineup we dropped a touchdown on the best goalie in the world.

Last night we were missing essentially 1/3 of our starting forwards and they still only managed 15 ES shots and 17 shots total.

There were 5 total PPs in this game and a grand total of 2 PP shots the entire game. The Rangers had both shots and scored on each of them. We had 0 PP shots. That was the game.

They played a bad game and barely won because our special teams are awful.

The Rangers don't have a very good team, they just don't. They are mostly carried by exceptional goaltending and a lethal power play.

 

[Mgd31]

Lol nothing Braden Schneider has done so far has made me think oh crap, we really missed out on this guy, shouldn't have let the Rangers jump us, blah blah, blah. That may change in the future and Muk may stink, but right now Schneider isn't any good.

Also we dominated the ice when he was on, last night.

 

[Devs3cups]

He's a rookie playing on a contender and was a fantastic pick. Maybe Sharangovich shouldn't of jumped the guy that hit Vesey in the first place, when the hit was clean? He got a beating for trying to act as a tough guy and got spanked for it.

If you're going to jump someone, you better be ready to answer the bell.

Schneider hit Boqvist, not Vesey. Also, that was so far from “jumping a guy” that it can’t even be considered in the same league. Rango barely held him. Schneider turned back and punched him, whatever, guess Rango should know better than to do that. Let’s not act like he tried to maul him though.

 

[HersheyBob27]

Lol nothing Braden Schneider has done so far has made me think oh crap, we really missed out on this guy, shouldn't have let the Rangers jump us, blah blah, blah. That may change in the future and Muk may stink, but right now Schneider isn't any good.

Also we dominated the ice when he was on, last night.

For a guy who isn’t any good he basically won the game for them with one big hit

 

[Devs3cups]

Rango getting talked about because of the fight, but his goal was beautiful. Great defensive awareness, pickpockets Trouba and finishes beautifully with the backhand. His 2-3 shifts were pretty good, without Hughes also. I think he needs more credit than he’s had around here. 26 goal, 52 point pace. He looks like a top-6 guy to me and he definitely is a useful guy to have.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

For a guy who isn’t any good he basically won the game for them with one big hit

He won the game for them by existing on a team with a great PP and somehow drawing an instigator after punching a guy in the face 5 times when he got hugged.

 

[Buck Dancer]

“Playing on a contender” is great. If the goalie wasn’t stopping 95% of shots when he was on the ice, he would be back in the AHL where he belongs.

Who said he was about to get nominated for the Norris? Yes, their goaltending is great and like any 20 year old rookie, he'll have his up's and down's but at the moment, he's not a liability to the Rangers more so than whoever else they have on their roster, so he's playing.

Saying he stinks this year is a reach and if what he brings to their team is grit, it's already better than what Smith has brought to our team since the start of the season. If we had a guy like him, maybe Sharangovich wouldn't feel the need to defend a guy like Boqvist in the first place.

Like @My3Sons said earlier, we have our key guys doing the dirty work when it should be the last thing we want them to do. Imagine having Bratt, Nico or Sharangovich out long term because they had to step up and defend a teamate. How dumb would that look but they have no other choice because like I've been saying for months, this roster is loaded with soft players.

 

[Buck Dancer]

Meh. Shara having to be the guy who responded is a symptom of the team's lack of compete at times. Hischier and Bratt have also felt compelled to drop the gloves. In what universe is that a good thing? Hopefully Shara just has a bruise or cut from the helmet being struck but at least he was willing to stand up for a teammate. On some level, in a lost year, on a lost team, at least he showed he cares.

You're right about that. The lack of toughness on this roster has our more skilled players involved in altercations they shouldn't be in. That's on Fitz for building a soft lineup but I do like to see the fight in guys like Bratt, Nico and Shara... just don't want them breaking their hand in a fight or seperate a shoulder by getting wrestled to the ice.

 

[My3Sons]

For a guy who isn’t any good he basically won the game for them with one big hit

You offer a fair amount of dramatic opinions but this one is factually wrong. They won the game because Daws let in a bad goal and NJ whiffed on too many chances. I understand that you are implying his hit on Boquist and subsequent fight was some sort of catalyst but I’ll disagree. It didn’t change anything I saw about how the gane was played or who played well before or after. If anything NJ got better defensively as the game went on. You are Emeril’s’s to your opinion but I think you’d be in a very small minority on this one.

 

[Buck Dancer]

Schneider hit Boqvist, not Vesey. Also, that was so far from “jumping a guy” that it can’t even be considered in the same league. Rango barely held him. Schneider turned back and punched him, whatever, guess Rango should know better than to do that. Let’s not act like he tried to maul him though.

My bad, you're right... it was Boqvist, I had Vesey in mind because he left with an apparant injury.

Shara didn't attack him or anything but you have to realize that if you're holding on to someone, after a play like that where jumping on a guy who made a perfectly clean hit is now as common as anything else in the game, the odds are that whoever is being held will look to punch your lights out because those scrums usually turn into a shit show.

 

[Mgd31]

For a guy who isn’t any good he basically won the game for them with one big hit

Sure

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Who said he was about to get nominated for the Norris? Yes, their goaltending is great and like any 20 year old rookie, he'll have his up's and down's but at the moment, he's not a liability to the Rangers more so than whoever else they have on their roster, so he's playing.

Saying he stinks this year is a reach and if what he brings to their team is grit, it's already better than what Smith has brought to our team since the start of the season. If we had a guy like him, maybe Sharangovich wouldn't feel the need to defend a guy like Vesey in the first place.

Like @My3Sons said earlier, we have our key guys doing the dirty work when it should be the last thing we want them to do. Imagine having Bratt, Nico or Sharangovich out long term because they had to step up and defend a teamate. How dumb would that look but they have no other choice because like I've been saying for months, this roster is loaded with soft players.

He could obviously turn into a good player, it’s so early. It’s just puzzling to see the drooling over a player that has gotten worse results than Santini’s first stint in NJ.