GDT: Women's | Preliminary Round | Group B | Switzerland vs Korea | 7:10 AM

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Switzerland Vs Korea
Group B Prelim
7:10 AM ET
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Switzerland


Pos.Name
GJanine Alder
GAndrea Brändli
GFlorence Schelling
DLivia Altmann
DLaura Benz
DNicole Bullo
DNicole Gass
DChristine Meier
DShannon Sigrist
DStefanie Wetli
DSabrina Zollinger
FTess Allemann
FSara Benz
FSarah Forster
FAlina Müller
FEvelina Raselli
FLisa Rüedi
FDominique Rüegg
FPhoebe Stänz
FLara Stalder
FIsabel Waidacher
FMonika Waidacher
FNina Waidacher
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Korea

Pos.Name
GHan Do-hee
GGenevieve Kim Knowles
GRi Pom
GShin So-jung
DCho Mih-wan
DChoe Jong-hui
DEom Su-yeon
DHwang Chung-gum
DHwang Sol-gyong
DKim Se-lin
DPark Chae-lin
DPark Ye-eun
DPark Yoon-jung
DRyu Su-jong
FChoe Un-gyong
FChoi Ji-yeon
FChoi Yu-jung
FRandi Griffin
FHan Soo-jin
FDanelle Im
FJin Ok
FSusie Jo
FJong Su-hyon
FJung Si-yun
FKim Hee-won
FKim Hyang-mi
FKim Un-hyang
FKim Un-jong
FKo Hye-in
FLee Eun-ji
FLee Jing-yu
FLee Yeon-jeong
FCaroline Nacy Park
FPark Jong-ah
FRyo Song-hui
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

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offkilter

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This is just brutal. Korea didn't have a strong team to begin with, but the language barrier between North Korean, South Korean, and the English speaking coach is playing havoc with team cohesion. The Korean team just doesn't have the legs to keep up with the the Swiss Miss Ice Mice. The six goals scored by them are split between just two people Alina Müller(4) and Phoebe Stänz(2)
 
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adsfan

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The Swiss are winning, but the Korean goalie is playing better. She needs more help from the defense than what they are providing. The Koreans are getting shots on goal. The game is not just the Swiss cycling the puck and hammering shots. Korea needs a little work on the passing to improve the team. They also need to pick up their opposite number on defense.
 

duga

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Alina Muller looks like a prime Lindros playing in the ECHL.

And she's still only 19 years old, already 2nd OG.
And surely, playing in the swiss u-17 league against boys for several years did help her develop even further.

Beside her, as it seems the leaders of the swiss remain the same as 4 years ago.

The 3rd goal was a real beauty.
 

offkilter

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The Swiss are winning, but the Korean goalie is playing better. She needs more help from the defense than what they are providing. The Koreans are getting shots on goal. The game is not just the Swiss cycling the puck and hammering shots. Korea needs a little work on the passing to improve the team. They also need to pick up their opposite number on defense.

Why cycle when you can skate around them like human pylons? Korea has only managed one shot on five power plays. Not one goal, one shot.
 

offkilter

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8-0 final. Goals scored by Mueller(4), Stanz(2), and stadler(2).

The Korean goalie really stood on her head despite giving up that many. Her team just could keep up and left her out to dry.
 

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It's really too bad the women's side seems to be that weak. Remember they stacked the pools so Korea is playing in the weaker pool. The women's game is even more divided than the men's, rank 15-20 so much further in womens hockey than the men where I think #18 South Korea will stay competitive except against giants (Swiss on either sex are not giants).
 

kudla

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Just noticed that Alina Muller played like A LOT of games in boys u17 league, imagine that she somehow managed to play even one junior game ,that would be ridiculous
 

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Just noticed that Alina Muller played like A LOT of games in boys u17 league, imagine that she somehow managed to play even one junior game ,that would be ridiculous

She produced well too
 

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Koreans actually played pretty well for the first ten minutes or so, some of their forwards actually have some skill, got a post on a breakaway.

Just looked like they completely fell apart after that, especially on defense.
 

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It's really too bad the women's side seems to be that weak. Remember they stacked the pools so Korea is playing in the weaker pool. The women's game is even more divided than the men's, rank 15-20 so much further in womens hockey than the men where I think #18 South Korea will stay competitive except against giants (Swiss on either sex are not giants).
Germany could compete in that group B and Czech maybe others too. Germany was fourth in the World championships. Czech rep. Played tight relegation games against Switzerland, went to three games. And Switzerland came in third last olympics. Division 1 A winner Japan played a tight game against Sweden. In World championship group A Canada, Finland and Russia were all in 3 points and Russia lost to Germany in quarterfinals. Last olympics Finland was third in group A but lost to Sweden in the quarters.
 

Tuoppi

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There could even be a 10 team tournament with best 5 teams in group A and others in group B. Korea just don't belong to this level but are here because they are hosts.
 

Atas2000

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This is just brutal. Korea didn't have a strong team to begin with, but the language barrier between North Korean, South Korean, and the English speaking coach is playing havoc with team cohesion. The Korean team just doesn't have the legs to keep up with the the Swiss Miss Ice Mice. The six goals scored by them are split between just two people Alina Müller(4) and Phoebe Stänz(2)
What is this stupidity about the language barrier? They are all Korean. The BS brought up by journalists won't hinder them. It won't make them better hockey players either. Obviously the gaps in women's hockey are even way wider. Korea should feed on that learning experience.
 

offkilter

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What is this stupidity about the language barrier? They are all Korean. The BS brought up by journalists won't hinder them. It won't make them better hockey players either. Obviously the gaps in women's hockey are even way wider. Korea should feed on that learning experience.

North–South differences in the Korean language - Wikipedia

Does this answer your question? Long story short just because someone from the Mississippi USA and London UK both speak English doesn't mean they'll understand each others syntax. A more apt example would be the various regional dialect of Chinese and how they can't understand each other.
 

Atas2000

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North–South differences in the Korean language - Wikipedia

Does this answer your question? Long story short just because someone from the Mississippi USA and London UK both speak English doesn't mean they'll understand each others syntax. A more apt example would be the various regional dialect of Chinese and how they can't understand each other.
Those differences are not enough to make it a real problem. Every NHL team with Russians, Czechs, Finns and so on should have more problems then.
 

JoeCool16

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Those differences are not enough to make it a real problem. Every NHL team with Russians, Czechs, Finns and so on should have more problems then.
Those players regularly have problems when they first come over and almost all of them learn passable English fairly quickly. The North and South Koreans have been together for a pretty short time and aren't that good to start with. Any issues on top of that (dialect issues) would definitely hurt.
 

Urbanskog

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The Korean women's team just isn't very good, they earned promotion to Division IB just last year now that they increased the number of teams in the elite division. The men's team should offer a respectable competition though. Four years from now, in China, it will be the other way around – the men's team isn't very good (although they still have time to improve and seem to be committed to it) while I could easily see the women finishing as high as fourth.
 

Tuoppi

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The Korean women's team just isn't very good, they earned promotion to Division IB just last year now that they increased the number of teams in the elite division. The men's team should offer a respectable competition though. Four years from now, in China, it will be the other way around – the men's team isn't very good (although they still have time to improve and seem to be committed to it) while I could easily see the women finishing as high as fourth.
China mens team just lost to South Korea 10-0. Maybe in 4 years they will lose 5-0 but how much against NHL Canada? Maybe they will bring back preliminary round like in Nagano. Japan was still better than China.
 
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Urbanskog

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China mens team just lost to South Korea 10-0. Maybe in 4 years they will lose 5-0 but how much against NHL Canada? Maybe they will bring back preliminary round like in Nagano. Japan was still better than China.
It's basically a matter of how many okay-ish foreigners they manage to naturalize. The goaltending is definitely the biggest issue at the moment.
 

Tuoppi

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It's basically a matter of how many okay-ish foreigners they manage to naturalize. The goaltending is definitely the biggest issue at the moment.
I read an article that they are not going to do like Korea. Naturalized players should have Chinese roots and the Chinese law doesn't allow dual citizenship.
 

Urbanskog

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I read an article that they are not going to do like Korea. Naturalized players should have Chinese roots and the Chinese law doesn't allow dual citizenship.
That's true, but there are quite a few players of Chinese descent in North America and there are already what, 15 such players in the Kunlun men's organization.
 

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