With the expected 2020 expansion draft, how should the FO prepare?
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EspenK
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At this point the mandatory protects are Jones, Zach, PLD & Bread.
Probables are Wennberg, Cam, Bob, Andy
Rest will depend on the next two seasons.
I agree that if Foligno & Dubi aren't gone by then and won't waive, buyouts for both will be in order.
I agree NMC/NTC should be minimized if not eliminated. Needs to be maximum flexibilty to protect the best players.
Probables are Wennberg, Cam, Bob, Andy
Rest will depend on the next two seasons.
I agree that if Foligno & Dubi aren't gone by then and won't waive, buyouts for both will be in order.
I agree NMC/NTC should be minimized if not eliminated. Needs to be maximum flexibilty to protect the best players.
EspenK
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At this point the mandatory protects are Jones, Zach, PLD & Bread.
Probables are Wennberg, Cam, Bob, Andy
Rest will depend on the next two seasons.
I agree that if Foligno & Dubi aren't gone by then and won't waive, buyouts for both will be in order.
I agree NMC/NTC should be minimized if not eliminated. Needs to be maximum flexibilty to protect the best players.
Probables are Wennberg, Cam, Bob, Andy
Rest will depend on the next two seasons.
I agree that if Foligno & Dubi aren't gone by then and won't waive, buyouts for both will be in order.
I agree NMC/NTC should be minimized if not eliminated. Needs to be maximum flexibilty to protect the best players.
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Old Guy
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Not certain if it is permitted under the collective bargaining agreement, but if the Blue Jackets feel compelled to give a player a no movement-no trade clause, they should ask for an exemption for certain dates aligning with the anticipated expansion draft.
TaketheCannoli
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Interesting thought. I wonder if they can set them up like the limited no trade clause where the player and team agree to a list?
Player is granted a No Movement Clause with a limited exception and may be traded or assigned to Team A, B, C and the Seattle expansion draft.
EspenK
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I'm guessing no player would agree to be sent to an expansion team. Realistically the only deals coming up where it will be an issue will be Zach's (no way is he not protected with or w/o a clause), Bread (ditto) and Bob's. Bob might be the only one where it makes some sense but imo there is no way Bob would agree to such a deal.
I dunno... it's working out pretty well for the Vegas castoffs. I wonder if that'll change perceptions at all.
Teams didn't have time to properly prepare and they didn't know what to expect. Teams will have had almost 4 years to get ready. I don't think we'll see near as many deals made with Seattle.
True... I just mean there are probably certain players on certain teams that WANT to get picked up in the expansion draft.
MoeBartoli
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I promised to stay off Dubi's back until after the season. Well, the season's over......
If it were in 2019 I'd say it's the chance to push Dubi that direction. But 2020 means carrying him and his contract for two more years, something I hope like heck not to see happen.
If it were in 2019 I'd say it's the chance to push Dubi that direction. But 2020 means carrying him and his contract for two more years, something I hope like heck not to see happen.
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It'll become clearer next offseason, because we'll know the fates of Bob and Panarin. Impossible to predict right now, but the only assured thing is it won't be pretty.
TaketheCannoli
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I would have agreed with you until I saw Marc-Andre Fleury waive his NMC for the Vegas expansion draft.
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I'm not sure about that.
The Vegas experience might make more players amenable to playing for Seattle. An expansion team has no bad contracts which clutter their payroll. They can draft players who fit the "new" game. The energy that the Vegas market had could easily be replicated in Seattle-they're nutzo about the Seahawks.
Every second and third liner Seattle obtains will get an opportunity to show his wares like Karlsson did.
I think it would be easier to recruit players to Seattle than to many other teams. If given the choice between Seattle and a Vancouver or a Carolina, I'd be inclined to think that most players would rather be in Seattle.
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EspenK
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You guys make good points. It will probably come down to a case by case basis. Some guys will be happy to go, others may not. In the case of Fleury. I think he waived because it was a case of him continuing as #1 goalie versus sitting behind/battling with Murray.
The Jackets should stop (and think they may have slowed) handing out NTC/NMC to every guy they sign. They handed them out like candy in past and really hurt us last time around.
Apart from that I'm not too worried. Not like I look at our roster and see a great core with a ton of good players. I see a great core of a few players.
Apart from that I'm not too worried. Not like I look at our roster and see a great core with a ton of good players. I see a great core of a few players.
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I would be surprised if Dubi wasn't traded this of season. Unfortunately it will return another bad contact. I'd take two years in return of they could swing it.
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He has 3 years at $5.85M left and a no movement clause. His family is here in Columbus (large house in Muirfield) and it's likely his last contract. Bottom line I'm not sure he is tradeable (he would have to agree to it). This will be one of those bad contracts that we have to ride out I'm guessing.
I have no doubt Dubi will play hard, but if ownership/coaches just keep scratching him it could be a bad situation.
Nanabijou
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My guess his he'll be back for sure in 2018-2019 and management (and Dubi) hope that he can have a bounce back. If not, I can see a buyout of the last two years of his contract, but I'm reasonably sure he won't be bought out this summer.
No idea to their credibility, but there were rumors of Dubinsky asking for a trade last season.
But also Jarmo said Dubinsky seemed pissed off at the season he had and wants to be better next season. So I would at least see how he starts the season before trying anything rash.
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The Jackets might find themselves in the same situation Philly did with Lecavalier.
The Dubinsky situation will be a very interesting to watch. It could get very ugly
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