Prospect Info: With the 207th Overall Pick the Rangers Select Patrik Virta

[Tawnos]

Defected player rights don’t expire. If Virta remains on the reserve list, his rights stay with the Rangers until they remove him.

In Valentenko’s case, the team didn’t keep him on the reserve list. Same is true for Klingberg.

Edit: wrong about Klingberg. Rangers lost his rights when he moved to the Swiss league.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Defected player rights don’t expire. If Virta remains on the reserve list, his rights stay with the Rangers until they remove him.

In Valentenko’s case, the team didn’t keep him on the reserve list. Same is true for Klingberg.

Edit: wrong about Klingberg. Rangers lost his rights when he moved to the Swiss league.

I do believe we still have Jensen’s rights (I think through next year?)

 

[nyr2k2]

I do believe we still have Jensen’s rights (I think through next year?)

We definitely have Jensen's rights, and if Capfriendly is to be believed, indefinitely. That squares with my understanding, so I believe it. LOL.

They say we also hold Pashnin's rights still. I guess we haven't renounced them. We held Gorokhov's rights until he was like 33 or something.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I do believe we still have Jensen’s rights (I think through next year?)

 

[Tawnos]

I do believe we still have Jensen’s rights (I think through next year?)

Until we decide to leave him off the reserve list or he moves to a league with a transfer agreement

 

[Mac n Gs]

We definitely have Jensen's rights, and if Capfriendly is to be believed, indefinitely. That squares with my understanding, so I believe it. LOL.

They say we also hold Pashnin's rights still. I guess we haven't renounced them. We held Gorokhov's rights until he was like 33 or something.

Oh, cool! I never fully grasped RFA rights when a player goes to Europe, so this definitely clears it up.

Thanks for posting the chart, @Amazing Kreiderman

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

We definitely have Jensen's rights, and if Capfriendly is to be believed, indefinitely. That squares with my understanding, so I believe it. LOL.

They say we also hold Pashnin's rights still. I guess we haven't renounced them. We held Gorokhov's rights until he was like 33 or something.

The reserve list is, I think, 80 or 90 which means we can have 30/40 players that aren't under contract in the system. No need to denounce rights to a player.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Oh, cool! I never fully grasped RFA rights when a player goes to Europe, so this definitely clears it up.

Thanks for posting the chart, @Amazing Kreiderman

Always happy to help. I read a lot on the CBA, and even I am still learning each week. There's so much that gets cleared up even years later.

Sometimes I worry it annoys people when I throw out these random bits of information or that it makes me sound like a pompous ass

 

[nyr2k2]

The reserve list is, I think, 80 or 90 which means we can have 30/40 players that aren't under contract in the system. No need to denounce rights to a player.

Yeah I get it, just kind of interesting to me that they still feel it worth it to keep Pashnin's rights. Do they have a belief that he'd like to try the NHL one day?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Yeah I get it, just kind of interesting to me that they still feel it worth it to keep Pashnin's rights. Do they have a belief that he'd like to try the NHL one day?

Well, never say never. We could use a LHD, you know

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Beautiful assist yesterday afternoon. This kid continues to improve. He's now 5th in points amongst u23 players in the KHL.

 

[cwede]

Virta to Orebro source:
Patrik Virta nära SHL-klubb

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Beautiful assist yesterday afternoon. This kid continues to improve. He's now 5th in points amongst u23 players in the KHL.

What are the expectations for him?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Virta to Orebro source:
Patrik Virta nära SHL-klubb

huh? He's leaving the KHL? I'm confused

 

[Joey Bones]

Virta to Orebro source:
Patrik Virta nära SHL-klubb

That's a bit crazy, but I don't see this as a downgrade for Virta. Slovan is trash and although the reasoning is due to him "not being as prominent as hoped", the SHL is still a good league for him to develop.

All the best!!

 

[nyr2k2]

huh? He's leaving the KHL? I'm confused

Yeah it was being discussed in the Prospect Thread, he and Slovan agreed to a mutual termination of his contract.

Still don't know why, but he had seen a reduced role lately and I think missed the past couple games.

 

[nyr2k2]

That's a bit crazy, but I don't see this as a downgrade for Virta. Slovan is trash and although the reasoning is due to him "not being as prominent as hoped", the SHL is still a good league for him to develop.

Nothing is confirmed, yet, but all the best!!

I'd really like a Swedish-speaker to translate that quote for us. Is that saying he wanted to leave because he wasn't featured as prominently as hoped, or Slovan didn't want him because he wasn't playing up to what they hoped?

 

[Joey Bones]

I'd really like a Swedish-speaker to translate that quote for us. Is that saying he wanted to leave because he wasn't featured as prominently as hoped, or Slovan didn't want him because he wasn't playing up to what they hoped?

It assume Slovan. Sorry, should've specified. FWIW, I also google translated it, lolol.

 

[nyr2k2]

It assume Slovan. Sorry, should've specified. FWIW, I also google translated it, lolol.

Yeah I did the same. I don't know. Unless they signed him to a big contract (which is unlikely), then it's hard to see how a team like Slovan would be in a hurry to dump Virta, who posted decent production given that team sucks.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What are the expectations for him?

I'm not sure it's necessarily a performance issue with Virta. Maybe he just doesn't feel at home in Slovakia. It's not exactly a destination for people. It's possible he'll be more comfortable in Sweden where he speaks the language (most Finns speak Swedish).

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I'm not sure it's necessarily a performance issue with Virta. Maybe he just doesn't feel at home in Slovakia. It's not exactly a destination for people. It's possible he'll be more comfortable in Sweden where he speaks the language (most Finns speak Swedish).

I meant as a prospect.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I meant as a prospect.

Oh! My expectations of Virta are a Lindberg-type player with a bit more versatility. A defensively responsible bottom-6 forward who can play all situations.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

He wasn't getting along with the coach in Slovan is what i heard, i also hear that Slovans head coach is a nutjob so story checks out, Virta was never injured/sick either. Move should be good for him, Örebro starving for a creative forward, he should get a big role.

 

[Rempe73]

What are the expectations for him?

Like a typical bottom 6 forward, but more offensive. Decent puck skills and vision from what I’ve heard.

 

[nyr2k2]

He did officially sign with Orebro, if there was any doubt to that. He'll join the team this weekend. This is according to the team's website.