Proposal: Wild - Red Wings

[WingsMJN2965]

I don't think I would trade that for Kaprizov let alone Dumba and Rask. Maybe I would trade that for Kaprizov but still not close.

Even if you believe the value is close, doesn't really make any sense for Detroit to add yet another winger while trading away a top pick in a draft loaded with the two positions they're weak at.

 

[lidstromiscool]

Even if you believe the value is close, doesn't really make any sense for Detroit to add yet another winger while trading away a top pick in a draft loaded with the two positions they're weak at.

Yeah but from a pure value perspective, I would at least think about it. The original proposal was not anywhere close to even.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Yeah but from a pure value perspective, I would at least think about it. The original proposal was not anywhere close to even.

Yeah, it's hard for me to gauge the value on that one. Mainly because it's a small sample on Kaprizov (Granted he did well in the KHL) and we don't know if Detroit's pick is gonna be #1 or #8.

 

[Tetsuo]

Even if you believe the value is close, doesn't really make any sense for Detroit to add yet another winger while trading away a top pick in a draft loaded with the two positions they're weak at.

Moreover, no matter who they pick, they absolutely will get a player who is more in line with their rebuild timeline and at a much cheaper rate than Kaprizov, who is due for a massive pay raise this off season. This is not to take anything away from Kaprizov, he's been stellar this season, but we are stupidly deep organizationally at both wings right now so I'm not keen on adding yet another that will also blow up our salary structure when we are in desperate need for a top 6 center.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Moreover, no matter who they pick, they absolutely will get a player who is more in line with their rebuild timeline and at a much cheaper rate than Kaprizov, who is due for a massive pay raise this off season. This is not to take anything away from Kaprizov, he's been stellar this season, but we are stupidly deep organizationally at both wings right now so I'm not keen on adding yet another that will also blow up our salary structure when we are in desperate need for a top 6 center.

50 game sample size, both he and the Wild probably want a bridge contract.

 

[Tetsuo]

50 game sample size, both he and the Wild probably want a bridge contract.

He still want at least $4 mil per year and if he keeps this pace up, his ask will skyrocket. I wouldn't be shocked to see Minnesota try to buy low on his prime years with a slightly higher AAV and slightly longer term.

 

[Spurgeon]

I’d be more than comfortable with him getting $8M+ on a long-term deal at this point. I also wouldn’t trade him for the #1 in this years draft. That’s how impressive he has looked.

 

[PullHard]

Add in Kaprizov or Fiala on Minnesota's side and Yzerman might politely decline instead of blocking Guerin's phone number

 

[ref19]

Lets assume that 1st is top 5 and used to draft a defenseman for the sake of argument. There are 5 different dmen that could go top 5 this draft; Luke Hughes, Owen Power, Brandt Clarke, Simon Edvinsson. I would say at least 4 of those 5 dmen have a good shot at being Dumba caliber or better. Detroit still wouldn't move that 1st even if you added Boldy

Haha

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Haha

Whats funny? Detroit is set on RD long term already, why would they want 2 years of Dumba over 8 years of whoever they draft in the top 5?

 

[PullHard]

Troll comments. Comical and ignorant

Just countering OP's energy

 

[Pavels Dog]

Glendening + 1'st round pick

for

Dumba + Rask

Man I hate when I look at the standings upside down.

That 1st round pick is actually a potential top 5 pick. Easy mistake to make, it's not a bad trade idea if it would have been a late 1st.

 

[Debrincat93]

How about:

Glendening + 1'st round pick

for

Dumba + Rask + the Wild's 1'st round pick from Pens

you're just not getting it, bud.

 

[Debrincat93]

Troll comments. Comical and ignorant

based on what you're replying to, i almost think you dont even know what those words mean.

 

[ThankGord]

Glendening + 1'st round pick

for

Dumba + Rask

This is nonsense, bud. Do you have any explanation as to why you think Detroit does this?

Glendening is worth a 3rd/2nd and that's a top 5 pick.

2 years of Dumba with a cap dump (despite some better numbers this year for Rask) attached isn't worth that much to a rebuilder.

 

[Go Wings]

Detroit is not moving their top 5 pick in the upcoming draft.

But just for fun lets pretend Detroit is open to it. Any conversation would have start with Rossi no exceptions. If Rossi is not coming back then the pick isn't moving. Then Minnesota would have to add from there including a first round pick coming back to Detroit.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

How about:

Glendening + 1'st round pick

for

Dumba + Rask + the Wild's 1'st round pick from Pens

How does this benefit Detroit? We're set at RD so Dumba isn't a need and Rask is a cap dump Glendening by himself returns a late 2nd or 3rd round pick rather easily. Detroit's pick is probably top 6 and the Pens Mid to late 20's noway Yzerman would accept this trade it's pretty bad for us.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

I'd include Rossi, both '21 1sts, and something else like Fiala/Dumba if it were Larkin on the table, but that's the only piece I'd move all that for and I assume Larkin is completely untouchable.

 

[MuckOG]

Why does Detroit want Dumba or Rask? This trade does nothing for their end game and costs them a high 1st.

Rask is Swedish....doesn't Detroit have a thing for Swedes?

 

[MNRube]

Isn't RD the only position where Detroit doesn't need help? Id assume with Hronek, Seider and massive holes everywhere else this would be a bad move for Detroit even if the value was right which it clearly is not.

 

[57special]

putting in Rask is adding insult to injury. No way DRW does this until they know when they are picking, and you would have to add someone like Beckman, and take out Rask, assuming DET is picking somewhere around 7-8. If their pick is in the top 4-5 they don't consider it. Beniers, Power, Hughes, maybe Johnson are too good to pass up.

Dumba is a good player, and would help a lot of teams right now, but he is a better fit on a contending team. I think he would be a great add to WPG, and make them a team that would scare TOR. DRW is in another place.

 

[Go Wings]

I'd include Rossi, both '21 1sts, and something else like Fiala/Dumba if it were Larkin on the table, but that's the only piece I'd move all that for and I assume Larkin is completely untouchable.

Larkin is untouchable rigjt now but Rossi, 2 1sts and one of Fiala/Dumba is a real offer for sure.

 

[Go Wings]

I'd include Rossi, both '21 1sts, and something else like Fiala/Dumba if it were Larkin on the table, but that's the only piece I'd move all that for and I assume Larkin is completely untouchable.

Larkin is untouchable rigjt now but Rossi, 2 1sts and one of Fiala/Dumba is a real offer for sure.

 

[TwiztedHeat]

Larkin is untouchable rigjt now but Rossi, 2 1sts and one of Fiala/Dumba is a real offer for sure.

I def understand that, Larkin is gonna blow up with Yzerman doing his roster magic. Larkin going to be over a PPG guy in the next 2-3 years with the pieces he'll get next to him.

 

[57special]

I'd include Rossi, both '21 1sts, and something else like Fiala/Dumba if it were Larkin on the table, but that's the only piece I'd move all that for and I assume Larkin is completely untouchable.

That's what you pay for an elite #1C. Larkin is very good, but he is not that. Wild fans would be extremely disappointed with that deal....massive overpay.