Bill Watters @RealBillWatters 20m
7.1 Mil for 8 yrs ?Are you kidding ?For Phaneuf?I'm sorry,this is an outrageous misrepresentation of his value.4 years @ 4 mil per is risky.
Bill Watters @RealBillWatters 20m
7.1 Mil for 8 yrs ?Are you kidding ?For Phaneuf?I'm sorry,this is an outrageous misrepresentation of his value.4 years @ 4 mil per is risky.
No he hasn't. While he has become more mature and more responsible over the years he still is and always will be far from smart or ,mind you, VERY smart. Dion has other strengths. I am not concerned about the cap hit. The length however will cost us flexibility down the road as I expect nothing less than max length with a full NTC. Nonis won't care much about that though. His focus is set for the now - means Dion will be extended to his terms.
I just don't see it. Why are we paying this guy that much. He eats minutes, thats it.....Most of the time he's a step or two behind.
Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
How about you actually look at some statistics and objectively watch the games this year and realize that hes shut down almost every single top line from teams like Chicago, Pittsburgh, Anaheim etc. No one is even talking about his points, he's just been a damn good defencemen.
Some just can't get past hits and points. They watch the game and comment on how he has a stiffness to his style, then don't notice that he's played half the game and hasn't been scored on.
He's the first choice out there for the PP, he's the first choice for the PK, he's the first choice for ES. No other player on the Leafs can say that.
The only way I can spin 4x4 as being risky is that your risk the guy never wanting to talk to you again after you offer him that.
This is just the worst thing my eyes have ever read. How does he have a job?
Dude im so with you, I think toronto is blinded by the C. He is not a very good player at all, no wonder he is rated #1 overrated by the players year after year. They know because they play against him every night. He cant make a pass out for his life, Makes a big hit 1 out of every 5 games, skates like he's in quick sand. Of course he has the most points as a D on our team he is on every PP and has high minuets. Doesn't mean they are good minuets. Just spend a whole game and watch him, always one hand on the stick with little to no compete level
I have bashed Phaneuf in the past but he has played great this year so far.
5 years at 7million/year would be ok with me but I fear he's getting a lot more.
Pronger was a pretty poor skater as well. I'd say Phaneuf is better than him in that regard.You don't have to be smooth skating and all over the ice like Gardiner and Rielly to be good. Some of the best defenceman all time are that way because they play a smart and simple game. I.E. Lidstrom
I never understood that myth. It's so false.You do realize before he was drafted he was praised for his hockey IQ more than anything. People in Toronto have come up with so many myths about him that are completely false. Yes he has become a very smart player. If you watch him this year he makes so many smart plays and has simpfiled his game.
I am thinking similar value, but over eight years. There's no way he's agreeing to less years especially at a massive discount.Five years @ 6.75. I think Phaneufs value is pretty close to what he's being paid now.
I am thinking similar value, but over eight years. There's no way he's agreeing to less years especially at a massive discount.
Yeah, good luck getting him to take that kind of paycut.We will regret signing Phaneuf to anything over 5 years and $7,000,000 per. He is just not a Franchise Defense cornerstone.
5 Years at $5,750,000 is perfect for him.