Music: Why are so many huge stars suddenly selling their music rights?

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"And it's not just Dylan, but the likes of Neil Young, Debbie Harry, Fleetwood Mac's Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood… the list goes on." Why are so many huge stars suddenly selling their music rights? | Ents & Arts News | Sky News

Is it cool? I'm not being sarcastic. I think it would be ridiculous for me to judge people such as Dylan and Young as if I'm somehow better. :rolleyes: Obviously I'm not.
 

beowulf

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Because they are being offered huge piles of money
Pretty much it...when someone offers you in the $100M++ it's hard to say no, especially if you need the cash or are getting older and figure you are not likely to see anything close to that sum from royalties before you die.

This article also explains possible reason well Why Superstar Artists Are Clamoring to Sell Their Music Rights

In the US, where a lot live, a tax window is closing soon so might as well cash in now and pay less taxes.

Consider Bob Dylan, who sold his publishing catalog for $400 million: At 20% tax, he’s due to pay $80 million to the government; at 37%, he’d need to turn over $65 million extra.


Personal circumstances
Two examples: Bob Dylan is nearly 80 years old, has had six children, and will surely be thinking about his estate planning. A lump of $400 million is far easier to divvy up than a lifetime’s patchwork of publishing copyrights.

Shakira, meanwhile, was embroiled in a tax-evasion case in Spain in the past two years, with the local government accusing her of owing more than $16 million in back-taxes.

Gamble on getting more value now than what the rights might be worth over time.
Company is paying artists and songwriters an average multiple of “14.76x historic annual income” — i.e. 14.76 years’ worth of predicted royalty profits — for their catalogs. The bigger the superstar, the bigger the multiple: Universal is believed to have paid Bob Dylan a multiple in excess of 25-times what his song catalog banks each year.
Taking this money upfront rids artists’ lives of several unpalatable uncertainties.
 
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Elvis P

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I'm not singing for Pepsi, I'm not singing for Coke ;)
 

Spring in Fialta

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I think it's reasonably valid when applied to someone who became rich specifically off a folksy, anti-consumerist, counterculture persona.

There's selling out, and then there's selling your soul.

I just meant that it sounds like Illuminati crap that I use to hear all the time from some weird fellow 17 year-olds (who I'm sure have grown into more elaborate conspiracy theories at 29). As in you sell your sell to the literal devil for fame and riches bla bla bla. Notice the 'already'.
 

tarheelhockey

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It's a lot easier when you die young and you don't grow out of your youthful sensibilities.

Sure, I don’t expect anyone to be the same person at 80 as at 20. Reality sets in, and all of that. I get it.

But there’s just a certain excessive hypocrisy on display when you’ve got Bob Dylan setting up a half-billion dollar estate so his descendants never have to work a day in their lives. It’s losing the plot to levels that verge on living satire.

I just meant that it sounds like Illuminati crap that I use to hear all the time from some weird fellow 17 year-olds (who I'm sure have grown into more elaborate conspiracy theories at 29). As in you sell your sell to the literal devil for fame and riches bla bla bla. Notice the 'already'.

Ah, ok. I just missed the tone entirely then.
 
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Blackhawkswincup

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Most of them know they are nearing end of life

Its morbid but many have seen friends die out in recent years and what does the music catalog mean when your dead? That money can be utilized now for personal or non personal use (Donated to causes for example they may believe in)

Also as much as people loved Dylan his music isn't going to gain in popularity as time goes on and music changes , etc and he like many great artists become a simple historical note playing on oldies (What will be oldies in future) playlists down line
 

SirClintonPortis

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The lifecycle of most musicians is that after death, obscurity is the next phase unless it's a titan like Beethoven or Michael Jackson in which their music's features permeates everywhere afterwards. So the person might as well reap his rewards while still alive and kicking....

Then maybe 3 to 5 generations later(sometimes 100 years), they get revived and rediscovered by those who only hear the notes but no longer feel the cultural and "in the moment" waves.

The respect from posterity hundreds of years later do not benefit the musician because he/she is literally in the grave. I wouldn't be surprised if Beethoven, Mozart or Bach would have taken the money as well. Beethoven and Haydn were savvy on the business front.
 

Jumptheshark

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Long story short. Without getting TOO political. When Mr Orange redid the tax system--he opened a loop hole that could allow people to set up trust funds for their family to get around certain death taxes. So far Dylan and a few others have taken the money and moved it in trust funds that pay out after he dies and his family will end up paying 1/20 of the taxes on it
 
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Stylizer1

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The lifecycle of most musicians is that after death, obscurity is the next phase unless it's a titan like Beethoven or Michael Jackson in which their music's features permeates everywhere afterwards. So the person might as well reap his rewards while still alive and kicking....

Then maybe 3 to 5 generations later(sometimes 100 years), they get revived and rediscovered by those who only hear the notes but no longer feel the cultural and "in the moment" waves.

The respect from posterity hundreds of years later do not benefit the musician because he/she is literally in the grave. I wouldn't be surprised if Beethoven, Mozart or Bach would have taken the money as well. Beethoven and Haydn were savvy on the business front.
Also, considering they probably got screwed over by the record industry they are just getting what they deserve.
 

MoreOrr

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Just trying to feed their families.

Probably more like trying to maintain a high standard of living, and better to grab the money now before they die and never took advantage of the opportunity. Or afraid that the next pandemic is sure to get them.
 

Spring in Fialta

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Also, if there's a folk artist who deserves half a billion it's Michael Hurley. Don't generally like the genre at all but I think he's pretty superb. I wouldn't be able to recommend him enough to people who like folk music. Gorgeous album covers too. He did them himself.



And my favorite...

 

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