Who's To Blame For Penguins Debacle?

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Just a fact:

1) The NFL rule about taping coaches from certain areas was not made until 2006. Patriots 1st 3 SBs came before taping coaches from certain points was illegal. You are factually incorrect.

Furthermore, "taping" coaches wasn't illegal even after the fact. What was illegal was using it during games (which the Patriots were not shown to have done) and doing it from certain prohibited areas, which they were guilty of.

They won NO Super Bowls when this was a rule. Your point needs an asterisk.

2) Deflategate- Little known fact: The refs only measured 4 Colts balls at halftime (while measuring 11 Patriots balls). 3 of the Colts balls were below the required 12.5 psi required. Either the Colts were "cheating" or the balls naturally lost air due to the ideal gas law. Furthermore, the refs reinflated the Patriots balls (no mention if they reinflated the Colts balls, meaning the league may have knowingly let the Colts use illegal balls).

Brady's stats in the 2nd half? 12-14 131 yards 2 TDs. And of course no evidence has ever been shown that the Super Bowl game had balls below the required psi, so the Super Bowl win is valid.... unlike your weak, uninformed argument.

3)PEDs? Seriously? PHI- Lane Johnson 10 game suspenion for PEDs, Denver- Derek Wolfe suspended 4 games for PEDs, SEA- Bruce Irvin suspended for PEDs, BAL- Asa Jackson suspended for PEDs. I can keep going.

I take back my 1.5/10 troll score.

.5/10

The Patriots think they are in the FBI/CIA. Cheating to win is ingrained into their coach's DNA.

 

[Negan4Coach]

I hope JR takes full blame and is run out of town on a rail.

 

[Crow]

I think they are just not that good of a team right now. Don’t see a debacle. Borderline playoff team. I think I even picked them to miss.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Trotz is to blame.

 

[c9777666]

Game’s still not over, so don’t jinx this.

 

[Empoleon8771]

What a surprise, another game where they can't manage to score a goal.

Like I've already said in this thread, this result was super predictable if you thought the Penguins wouldn't "turn on a switch" in the playoffs. The team couldn't score at all to end the year and were carried mostly by Murray.

 

[orby]

Rutherford first and foremost, followed by Sullivan, followed by the cruel hands of time diminishing the capabilities of Malkin, Kessel, and Letang.

 

[Loosie]

The Islanders

 

[Loseipeg]

every Toews just owns the Pens

 

[Loseipeg]

The grace period is ovah

 

[armyjoe]

Rutherford first and foremost, followed by Sullivan, followed by the cruel hands of time diminishing the capabilities of Malkin, Kessel, and Letang.

And Crosby

 

[GarbageGoal]

You'd think the Islanders were the Atlanta Thrashers the way people here talk.

 

[Maple Leaf]

It's not over yet

 

[southernbeardown54]

The Islanders being a better hockey team is to blame for the penguins debacle.

Umm this is the only answer here. Anything else is silly.

 

[Dominance]

Robin Lehner. Check that f***er for PEDs.

 

[sbhatt]

Weak bottom 6 and garbage D sure didn't help. Letang looks washed up.

 

[Cygnusx1018]

The New York Islanders.

 

[orby]

And Crosby

Crosby had a bad series but he just scored 100 points and was one of maybe 3 to 4 players that absolutely carried the Pens into the playoffs. Malkin on the other hand had a terrible year

 

[Plub]

The best players on the team looked like they didn't give a shit. That might be part of it .

 

[steveayres35]

Good Defense from New York, along with inconsistent play from Pittsburgh

 

[SouthGeorge]

Letang. He's trash.

 

[mitchmagic]

To be honest -- they had their run. Time is to blame. They're getting older, slower, and less impactful.

 

[discobob]

Barack Obama, Axel Rose, and Cap'n Crunch... in equal parts

 

[bobholly39]

Oh well.

The nice thing about Pittsburgh is that they can come back next year and be serious contenders to win it all. I'm sure they need to make some tweaks here and there - but while Crosby/Malkin are still around i don't think it's that difficult to envision them winning another cup as early as next year

Tampa....is different. Never won and biggest choke job in NHL history. I don't even know what their fans are thinking now. At least Penguins seemed to battle and try really hard. To be fair i didn't watch all the games - but from what i saw they were much closer.

 

[Nalens Oga]

Rutherford. I'll give him some credit for the cups but I have a feeling Botterill was behind much of that success.

Rutherford's failed to replenish here and the team isn't as fast as it should be imo. I don't think that Sullivan has the tools to beat such a defensively fortified team like NYI, they probably would have lost to Columbus in similar fashion as well.