Who won the Ryan Johansen for Seth Jones trade?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Columbus got 6 solid years out of Jones before trading him to the Hawks. Nashville just about won the cup with Johansen in 2017-18. They may have won it had Ryan not get injured in the 3rd round.

Nashville still has Johansen, though you could say an underperforming Johansen.

From trading Jones to Chicago, Columbus now has Boqvist, 2021 Hawks 1st (Cole Sillinger), 2021 Hawks 2nd (Aleksi Heimosalami), 2022 Hawks 1st

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[Fledgemyhedge]

Columbus not close

 

[Painful Quandary]

I don't think any side really won or lost the trade in a vacuum, it is just that Columbus maximized their return by trading Seth Jones to Chicago. If Columbus held onto Jones and gave him the contract Chicago did, nobody would think they won the Johansen-Jones trade and would view the trade as relatively even.

 

[fmrdh]

On ice results: NSH

Asset management perspective: CBJ wins big

 

[stl76]

That 22 hawks 1st round pick the jackets got is no small piece. Wasn’t that the 6th overall pick they used to draft David Jiricek?

Regardless, Columbus “won” the trade by a large margin IMO. If the perds had won a cup (or win one in the near future with Johansen playing a large role) then I could see more of an argument.

 

[Gurglesons]

Even trade IMO.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Pretty sure their agents and accountants all won.

 

[Connor McConnor]

CBJ not close.

 

[ProfessorFink22]

Assets from the Chi trade: Boqvist, a pick flipped for Bean, the Jiricek pick, the Sillinger pick (CBJ also traded a late 1st in 2021 that is Nolan Allen).

Jones' vs Johansen's impact on the teams that traded for them aside, we could never see Nashville get those type of assets for Johansen... Not that anyone believed Columbus would get that type of a return for Jones either

 

[Soundgarden]

Nashville fan here, I think Johansen's impact for Nashville is being really understated here, even if he did have a few underwhelming seasons.

We don't make the finals or win our first Presidents trophy without Johansen as our no.1 center. The JOFA line was also top of the league for a long while.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

In a vacuum CBJ wins bigly given the years of play from Jones + trading him for a haul. However CBJ did have a huge hole at C for the past 8 years from the trade so it wasn’t without cost.

 

[CBJx614]

In a vacuum CBJ wins bigly given the years of play from Jones + trading him for a haul. However CBJ did have a huge hole at C for the past 8 years from the trade so it wasn’t without cost.

Fair, but Johansen isn't exactly a 1C worth an 8M contract. Not only did CBJ potentially get his replacement in Sillinger, they also got Jones replacement in Jiricek.

 

[Voight]

Johansen did help the Preds reach the finals (he had 13 points in 14 games before his injury) even if he didn't play the whole run.

 

[The Red Line]

Chicago lost.

 

[AvroArrow]

Nashville won the Johansen for Jones trade. They went all the way to the finals and I strongly believe they would have won if Rojo didn't get hurt. Jones was an above average D-Man for Columbus, but never really made it anywhere with that team.

The Jones to Chicago trade is a totally separate trade, and the Hawks got robbed on that trade, I mean robbed.

 

[North Cole]

Pretty sure their agents and accountants all won.

We always do

 

[centipede2233]

Ryan johansen won the trade going to a no state income tax

 

[bsu]

This is AINEC.

 

[triggrman]

If the point of a trade is to make your team better, I don't see how Nashville isn't the hands down winner. Nashville played in the Cup finals and won the Presidents trophy with Johansen. CBJ went to the second round once and missed the playoffs twice with Jones after the trade.

Nashville didn't miss Jones.

 

[Gurglesons]

Nashville won the Johansen for Jones trade. They went all the way to the finals and I strongly believe they would have won if Rojo didn't get hurt. Jones was an above average D-Man for Columbus, but never really made it anywhere with that team.

The Jones to Chicago trade is a totally separate trade, and the Hawks got robbed on that trade, I mean robbed.

As a Penguins fan I think they win if RoJo is healthy tbh.

 

[Soundgarden]

Honestly one of the most even 1-1 deals, but Columbus really swept up in the Chicago deal.

 

[banks]

If the point of a trade is to make your team better, I don't see how Nashville isn't the hands down winner. Nashville played in the Cup finals and won the Presidents trophy with Johansen. CBJ went to the second round once and missed the playoffs twice with Jones after the trade.

Nashville didn't miss Jones.

People here are only thinking about asset value. It's insane.

I voted "even" because it's about as close as you can get to a win-win trade these days. But I feel Nashville should be happiest with the trade, since they actually had some on-ice success because of it.

 

[bobbydigital]

Assets from the Chi trade: Boqvist, a pick flipped for Bean, the Jiricek pick, the Sillinger pick (CBJ also traded a late 1st in 2021 that is Nolan Allen).

Jones' vs Johansen's impact on the teams that traded for them aside, we could never see Nashville get those type of assets for Johansen... Not that anyone believed Columbus would get that type of a return for Jones either

Why are you bringing Chicago into this? The Hawks trading for Jones has nothing to do with this poll.

 

[Bouboumaster]

I think that Jones time in Colombus > RyJo's time in Nashville, but RyJo's still with his team so, to me, it even out

 

[MrEckted]

Why are you bringing Chicago into this? The Hawks trading for Jones has nothing to do with this poll.

I think for Columbus the return for Jones from Chicago is inextricably linked to any evaluation of the Johansen trade.

I'd expect if Nashville were to trade RyJo, they'd take the return into account as well.