Who was Mats Sundin the greatest since?

[charliolemieux]

I guess I'll vote for Borje Salming since Phil Kessel was removed

YOu think Sundin was better than Gilmour?

 

[Kyle Doobas*]

YOu think Sundin was better than Gilmour?

Nah I just thought he meant career (or near-career) Leafs for some reason

 

[charliolemieux]

Nah I just thought he meant career (or near-career) Leafs for some reason

NO he's asking who was the last Leaf as good as Sundin.

 

[Leafidelity]

Gilmour. Sundin never had a Selke winning, Hart nominated season.

 

[Mess]

Dave Keon (1960s)---> Darryl Sittler (1970s) ---> Wendel Clark (1980s) ---> Doug Gilmour (1990s) ---> Mats Sundin (2000s)

 

[Hurt]

Dave Keon (1960s)---> Darryl Sittler (1970s) ---> Wendel Clark (1980s) ---> Doug Gilmour (1990s) ---> Mats Sundin (2000s)

Reckon the (2010s) is on our team currently or has he not donned the Leaf yet?

 

[namttebih]

Reckon the (2010s) is on our team currently or has he not donned the Leaf yet?

That's right. It will be a Mac or a Mc currently not on our roster.

 

[Cor]

I agree, I wasn't born when he was playing but just reading articles, looking at stats and some old games on LeafsTV, he was the real deal. Voting for him.

It felt like just last season I sat down to watch him.... good times.

 

[Bomber0104]

I assure you all there has been no player since that has been as great a Leaf as Borje...and this has nothing to due with nationality

In my opinion, even with all the records Mats shattered...I truly think Salming was the greatest Leaf since Mats but not before Vaive, Keon or Sittler.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Gilmour

Misunderstood this thread

 

[DD03]

Gilmour. Just because he's closer to Sundin then Salming.

 

[Cor]

I assure you all there has been no player since that has been as great a Leaf as Borje...and this has nothing to due with nationality

In my opinion, even with all the records Mats shattered...I truly think Salming was the greatest Leaf since Mats but not before Vaive, Keon or Sittler.

Salming can't be the greatest Leafs since Mats, as Mats played after Salming.

All you have to say is "Salming is a better player then Mats"

 

[Bomber0104]

Salming can't be the greatest Leafs since Mats, as Mats played after Salming.

All you have to say is "Salming is a better player then Mats"

Perhaps this was an incorrectly worded question and poll..

 

[The Blue Devil]

Perhaps this was an incorrectly worded question and poll..

Really?

 

[ForSpareParts*]

I put Sundin over Lanny and Vaive.

I do not put him over Keon, Salming, Sittler, and (especially) Gilmour.

I do think Sundin was a very good international player. It's too bad he wasn't given better line mates on the Leafs. I would have posted differently.

 

[Erdinger]

Dave Keon (1960s)---> Darryl Sittler (1970s) ---> Wendel Clark (1980s) ---> Doug Gilmour (1990s) ---> Mats Sundin (2000s)

Totally agree on that. I still rank Sittler above Clark and Gilmour (who were great Leafs no doubt about it) though so I voted for him.

 

[Wendelstache]

Kessel was pretty good in the 80s, I think he wore Russ Courtnall's number 7.

 

[charliolemieux]

I love this thread.

Vinny Damphousse was pretty good but gets less than zero respect around this place.

 

[Sundinisagod]

I love this thread.

Vinny Damphousse was pretty good but gets less than zero respect around this place.

Prolly cuz he was traded away too soon.

 

[Brewsky]

Damn you front page jokers, made be laugh so loud at work in a quiet room, past great Phil Kessel hahahahahahaa.

I voted Dougie G is the place to be.

 

[Leafsdude7]

Gilmour, absolutely.

That said, after (before?) Dougie, the next player who was as good or better than Mats was probably Sittler. No one else in the Leafs history post-expansion has put together all-around offensive skill, defensive reliability, power, leadership and durability like those three.

Clark was an excellent leader and a solid player, but he wasn't as consistently good or as much of an all-around player as Mats was. Clark could hit like a truck and had the deadliest wrist shot in the league, but he couldn't play defense if his life depended on it, and he had no vision on the ice. Even if he was healthy throughout his career, I don't think he quite lives up to the level of Sittler/Gilmour/Sundin.

Vaive, while he was definitely a top player, just didn't really have that extra intangible that the others had. He had all of the tools, but they just weren't as absolutely dominant as Mats, Doug and Darryl's were. He was like Dave Andreychuk without Doug Gilmour.

McDonald had pretty much the same skill-set as Clark, except he wasn't as tough and was more durable.

Keon is too far before me to allow me to make an accurate assessment of him. Hell, Sittler, McDonald and Vaive might be, too, but anyway...

 

[Mowerman]

Hit Wendel instead of Gilmour, oops. I'm just terrified Clark will read what I said one day and come to my house to "correct" me.

 

[namttebih]

It would have been nice to see what Clark could have accomplished if he was used differently.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

NO he's asking who was the last Leaf as good as Sundin.

Oh, that's what "Who was Mats Sundin the greatest since?" means?

Thanks for the English translation.

What was the original language?

 

[charliolemieux]

Oh, that's what "Who was Mats Sundin the greatest since?" means?

Thanks for the English translation.

What was the original language?

NOt sure. It took half of another thread to work it out.

More like a cryptogram.