PuckG
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Why is this thread on the mains?
Leafs specific threads should stay in the Leafs subforum, no?
Leafs specific threads should stay in the Leafs subforum, no?
This is false, so wherever you got all this info is invalid. Throw it away along with this garbage take. If you lead your team in scoring and win the series, there is literally nothing more than can be asked of you. Who cares if someone on the other team scored more? That's more on the team's defense and as a #1 center you probably had to help them out.Except I wasn't talking about leading one's team in scoring --- I was talking about leading THE SERIES (i.e., both teams) in scoring. Thornton appeared in 33 playoff series, and exactly zero times he led both teams in scoring. Here are some historical comparisons:
Most Times leading a playoff series in scoring:
24 - Gretzky
10 - Kucherov / Sakic
9 - Lemieux / Bossy / Gilmour / Modano / Fedorov
8 - M. Richard / Lafleur / Howe / Savard / Brett Hull
(move way down the list...)
4 - Draisaitl / Bure / Drillon / Sorrell / Payne / Orr / Conacher / Giroux / Staal / Keeling / Marchessault / Straka / Leach / Ullman / Hawerchuk / Mats Naslund / H. Smith (+ many more)
0 - Thornton
Best %, "#1 PTS" in Playoff Series
57% - Gretzky
45% - Lemieux
44% - Draisaitl
38% - Kucherov
36% - Bure
33% - Sakic / McDavid / Scheifele
32% - Bossy
31% - M. Richard / Drillon / Sorrell
30% - Perreault / Guentzel / Lafleur
(move way down the list...)
20% - Marchand / M. Tkachuk / Zibanejad / Smyl
0 - Thornton
NHL forwards who have been in the most playoff series without ever being #1 in scoring in that series:
44 - Draper
43 - Carbonneau
32 - Keane
37 - MacTavish
36 - Shanahan
34 - Holmstrom / D. Hunter / Nystrom
33 - Thornton / Maltby / McCarty / Krushelnyski
Lol his line is 2-5 and Pavelski was able to dominate lesser competition thanks to Thornton's line. This is literally how you win Cups.It's not a lazy narrative.
The Story of Joe Thornton can be shown in by "sorting order" of Regular season points, and Playoff points.
Thornton notoriously drops off in the playoffs, while Pavelski, Clowe, and Couture elevated.
Not once or twice but SEVERAL seasons Joe could lead the sharks in the RS, but then fell off in the playoffs.
He wasn't built for playoff hockey.
Regular Season Scoring:
View attachment 861865Playoffs Scoring:
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Both have been penguins fans, so it just shows how insecure Crosby fans are.This turned into a thread where people post players they don't like.
Saying McDavid isn't a good playoff performer because he hasn't won a cup is an insane take.
Could you specify which part of my post was false?This is false...
literally how you win Cups.
True, Wasn't built for speed, hitting, physicality (had the size, didnt use it), overall too easy going, no intensityIt's not a lazy narrative.
The Story of Joe Thornton can be shown in by "sorting order" of Regular season points, and Playoff points.
Thornton notoriously drops off in the playoffs, while Pavelski, Clowe, and Couture elevated.
Not once or twice but SEVERAL seasons Joe could lead the sharks in the RS, but then fell off in the playoffs.
He wasn't built for playoff hockey.
Regular Season Scoring:
View attachment 861865Playoffs Scoring:
View attachment 861866
Nyquist has 5(!!)G and 28pts in 75 playoff games
Except I wasn't talking about leading one's team in scoring --- I was talking about leading THE SERIES (i.e., both teams) in scoring. Thornton appeared in 33 playoff series, and exactly zero times he led both teams in scoring. Here are some historical comparisons:
Most Times leading a playoff series in scoring:
24 - Gretzky
10 - Kucherov / Sakic
9 - Lemieux / Bossy / Gilmour / Modano / Fedorov
8 - M. Richard / Lafleur / Howe / Savard / Brett Hull
(move way down the list...)
4 - Draisaitl / Bure / Drillon / Sorrell / Payne / Orr / Conacher / Giroux / Staal / Keeling / Marchessault / Straka / Leach / Ullman / Hawerchuk / Mats Naslund / H. Smith (+ many more)
0 - Thornton
Best %, "#1 PTS" in Playoff Series
57% - Gretzky
45% - Lemieux
44% - Draisaitl
38% - Kucherov
36% - Bure
33% - Sakic / McDavid / Scheifele
32% - Bossy
31% - M. Richard / Drillon / Sorrell
30% - Perreault / Guentzel / Lafleur
(move way down the list...)
20% - Marchand / M. Tkachuk / Zibanejad / Smyl
0 - Thornton
NHL forwards who have been in the most playoff series without ever being #1 in scoring in that series:
44 - Draper
43 - Carbonneau
32 - Keane
37 - MacTavish
36 - Shanahan
34 - Holmstrom / D. Hunter / Nystrom
33 - Thornton / Maltby / McCarty / Krushelnyski
Sorry, but the year the Flames went to the finals against Tampa he was a beast. That run alone disqualifies him from the worst ever.Iginla. Overrated fake tough guy loser.
3 of his 5 goals (now6) IIRCI feel like half of that output happened in that 2013 series against the Hawks.
Outcome | Wins/Losses | GAA | Sv% |
Luongo in Games Won | 34 | 1.43 | .952 |
Luongo in Games Lost | 35 | 3.65 | .882 |
That Dahlin guy is a total no show as well.hf in a nutshell.
Anyways, gonna preemptively defend Thornton- dude was always hurt, and I blame his teammates. Jumbo was perfect.
Marner is making his case as an all-timer.