Which contract is worse for the next 7-8 years: Nurse at 9M or Sergachev at 8.5M?

[PuckG]

Or maybe he just had the luxury of playing the same 6 teams over and over two seasons ago as opposed to last season when every team had a crack at him. It's pretty ironic that his best season came when the Oilers were playing 6 other teams all year. If anything, last season and every season but the one with the Canadian division should mean more when evaluating him.

Oilers are who they are though so they paid him off a career season.

The seasons prior to that, he took notable steps forward every single time. Yes, he's overpaid, but again, not as drastic as people make out it to be.

And rip on the Oilers all you want, you clearly have an agenda in your first 3-4 posts on here - but so far I would argue they've improved on the roster that went to the WCF final this past season and should now clearly be atop the Pacific and above everyone in aside from the Blues, Avs and maybe the Wild in the West.

 

[Chips]

Sergachev has been given limited opportunity over the last few years due to a much deeper D core. His even strength scoring rate has actually been solid a little while now all things considered. Consistency has been his issue but people forget how young he is and that defensemen often take a while longer to peak than forwards. He should more consistently get bigger minutes and a better partner, then this question would be more fair to judge.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Or maybe he just had the luxury of playing the same 6 teams over and over two seasons ago as opposed to last season when every team had a crack at him. It's pretty ironic that his best season came when the Oilers were playing 6 other teams all year. If anything, last season and every season but the one with the Canadian division should mean more when evaluating him.

Oilers are who they are though so they paid him off a career season.

Last season was easily Nurse's best season of his career, but you again prove you don't know a thing about the team, their circumstances, what happened in the market or Nurse as a player. Injured playoffs aside, he was a shutdown 1D taking on the most/toughest minutes in the NHL.

Nurse gets hated on more than Jones and Hamilton even though he's been better than both since they signed basically identical contracts.

 

[Love]

We don’t really know what Sergachev is because he’s never had to be anything more than the 3rd most important defenceman on his team. There’s a massive difference between being the go to guy and being the third option. Nurse on the other hand has nobody that’s even close to him at this point. Bouchard will probably surpass him soon but it’s too early for that right now.

To me that is what makes this question difficult.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Nurse at 9M is way worse.

 

[Three On Zero]

Last season was easily Nurse's best season of his career, but you again prove you don't know a thing about the team, their circumstances, what happened in the market or Nurse as a player. Injured playoffs aside, he was a shutdown 1D taking on the most/toughest minutes in the NHL.

Nurse gets hated on more than Jones and Hamilton even though he's been better than both since they signed basically identical contracts.

A shutdown 1d? Nurse can’t shut anything down with his shit defensive play

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Serg is better than Nurse, so this was an easy choice.

 

[The Macho King]

A shutdown 1d? Nurse can’t shut anything down with his shit defensive play

I'm loving the defenses of Nurse. "He has such tough deployment."

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand he plays like shit with that deployment.

Sergachev needs to find some consistency with his decision making on breakouts and tone down the penalties. But to put up the offense he has with no PP1 time is pretty damn impressive.

 

[EverTheCynic]

Nurse is a way better player than Sergachev so far, lol. This website is so silly. With the narratives.

Sergachev hasn’t been that much better than Barrie. He’s just on the best team in the East, so it’s less noticeable.

I would take Nurse and not think twice about it. Let’s be real, Nurse was paid the “living in the Arctic circle” bonus. That’s just what Edmonton has to do to stay competitive. What the hell is Tampas excuse for that awful contract?

 

[Holymakinaw]

Nurse is a way better player than Sergachev so far, lol.

No, he's really not.

 

[Drumman44]

Nurse is not as good as Sergachev and makes more money. Kind of a no brainer

 

[EverTheCynic]

No, he's really not.

Based on what? Feelings? Word of mouth hype? Sergachev has been playing on an almost dynasty level team, and has been remarkably subpar and meh through it.

He’s not generating many shots from the point. The offense is coming from down low. He’s been performing poor in his own end.

There is absolutely nothing redeeming about the player given the contract. This is not an $8.5m player.

While Nurse has historically been a trainwreck and liability in his own end, I attribute that more to team defense. Poor systems. Playing for Edmonton. But at least Nurse contribute to offense at an elite 1D level.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Based on what? Feelings? Word of mouth hype? Sergachev has been playing on an almost dynasty level team, and has been remarkably subpar and meh through it.

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He’s not generating many shots from the point. The offense is coming from down low. He’s been performing poor in his own end.

There is absolutely nothing redeeming about the player given the contract. This is not an $8.5m player.

While Nurse has historically been a trainwreck and liability in his own end, I attribute that more to team defense. Poor systems. Playing for Edmonton. But at least Nurse contribute to offense at an elite 1D level.

Oh well, if your Sony Playstation charts say so, then it MUST be true. LOL.

 

[TheRumble]

I really don't see what Tampa sees in Sergachev but at the same time their scouting department really deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Edmonton's however does not. So I'm leaning with Nurse.

Edit: Also lol@the guy who called him a shutdown D man. Nurse couldn't shutdown a laptop with the battery removed.

 

[PuckG]

Oh well, if your Sony Playstation charts say so, then it MUST be true. LOL.

At least he had something to provide compared to your "No, he's really not."

 

[ijuka]

Nurse contract is worse, but Sergachev's is still terrible.

 

[Donner]

Serg is the better D but a small amount. He just plays on a better D core

But his is still the better D at 500K less

 

[Holymakinaw]

At least he had something to provide compared to your "No, he's really not."

Nah

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I really don't see what Tampa sees in Sergachev but at the same time their scouting department really deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Edmonton's however does not. So I'm leaning with Nurse.

Edit: Also lol@the guy who called him a shutdown D man. Nurse couldn't shutdown a laptop with the battery removed.

 

[AD1066]

While I voted Nurse, I disagree with those bringing Cups into the equation and don't think you'd get wildly different results if they swapped teams/roles.

 

[North Cole]

Curious to see this potential that everyone is talking about in action. Should be only a matter of time until we see him going against maxed out competition at that price tag. Nurse has much better Rel stats while playing against harder comps.

 

[bobbyking]

nurse is a stud as a pure defender

 

[McVespa99]

The Sergachev deal is not good, but you will certainly see Sergachev put up more offense as he spends more time playing with the top six guys with McD gone PLUS Tampa can afford it since they are paying Hedman like a #2.

The Oilers can't hope that Nurse will put up more production with better players. He already plays with some of the best. And they can't afford to make him their #2.

Nurse will never put up big points because he will never be on the 1st powerplay. The only season he was on the 1st PP he scored 15 goals if I remember correctly

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Lopsided result. Where’s Mr. Spock!

 

[spiny norman]

Lopsided result. Where’s Mr. Spock!

I guess it's close enough.