What wrong with "Mitch'in" Marner?

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Just ready for playoffs.

 

[thaman8765678]

He hasn't been noticeably worse than Matthews overall in the playoff series. Both have their ups and downs, but seem to struggle come playoffs.

 

[jeffff]

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[Bedards Dad]

The Leafs aren't a soft team.

Mentally and/or psychologically, maybe they are. But physically, they really aren't.

NHL Team Hits Per Game 2023-2024 | StatMuse

The Montreal Canadiens averaged 22.22 hits per game this season.

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Their best players can be thrown off their games when the physicality ramps up, though.

Matthews, the best player on either team, had the most hits last game.

 

[DitchMarner]

i wonder what type of value they could get for him at this point. the book is out on him and he only has 1 year left at $10.9m. he could still be valuable to a team that need more talent to get into the playoffs or a team that needs a star player. id like to see utah take a swing, lots of cap space and futures.

I think he can definitely be traded for a decent return, especially if they're willing to retain salary.

I don't see any reason he can't be to another team what Kessel was to Pittsburgh.

Hell, he's a better two-way player than Kessel and wouldn't be a bad fit on a third line in the playoffs. Send him to a team that has a couple of big stars and he can be the third-wheel offensively.

Toronto simply doesn't use him that way and probably never will.

I can see TOR being rid of him and Tavares soon. They have guys like Knies, Robertson and McMann. They may be able to get another big name forward in a trade or as a UFA.

 

[Fatass]

I think he can definitely be traded for a decent return, especially if they're willing to retain salary.

I don't see any reason he can't be to another team what Kessel was to Pittsburgh.

Hell, he's a better two-way player than Kessel and wouldn't be a bad fit on a third line in the playoffs. Send him to a team that has a couple of big stars and he can be the third-wheel offensively.

Toronto simply doesn't use him that way and probably never will.

I can see TOR being rid of him and Tavares soon. They have guys like Knies, Robertson and McMann. They may be able to get another big name forward in a trade or as a UFA.

Marner has a full NMC. If he leaves it’s because the Leafs don’t re-sign him July 2025.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

How may guys of his ilk are post-season dynamos? He's a smaller, finesse winger. That results in him being a target and it shows.

You mean like last year’s Conn Smythe winner?

 

[Sniper99]

Personally I would go nuclear and try and trade as many of them as I could get equal-greater value from, Tavares would just be dumped at 5.5 for a late draft pick

Thats great and all, go nuclear all you want, they've got NTC's! Good luck moving them. Believe me I want a bunch of these stupid ass contracts gone, I know i'm sick of hearing 50+ mill tied into 5 players I include Reilly's dopey ass contract too. They're not waiving!!

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Bizarro Kane.

 

[JL17]

Remember when Leon played on one leg in the playoffs. He didn’t get 3 weeks to a month off to rest it. Kept going and putting up numbers.

 

[NVious]

Thats great and all, go nuclear all you want, they've got NTC's! Good luck moving them. Believe me I want a bunch of these stupid ass contracts gone, I know i'm sick of hearing 50+ mill tied into 5 players I include Reilly's dopey ass contract too. They're not waiving!!

They'd waive if you threaten to go public with it.

I mean it depends on how much balls you have, Boston traded away two young studs (Segiun, Thornton) and then won a cup, Vegas traded their most beloved player in Fleury and then won a cup.

If you outright said "yeah I went to them and asked them to waive, their time is up here, they are just prolonging the situation when they have played like shit in the playoffs while taking all our cap space" they'd waive real quick from the heat.

Why would a player stay in a city where he isn't wanted and the ownership has no confidence in the player? Has that ever happened? No because it makes no sense from anybody's perspective.

 

[John Mandalorian]

i wonder what type of value they could get for him at this point. the book is out on him and he only has 1 year left at $10.9m. he could still be valuable to a team that need more talent to get into the playoffs or a team that needs a star player. id like to see utah take a swing, lots of cap space and futures.

Why not Pittsburgh? Guentzel came off the books. Dubas.

They'd waive if you threaten to go public with it.

I mean it depends on how much balls you have, Boston traded away two young studs (Segiun, Thornton) and then won a cup, Vegas traded their most beloved player in Fleury and then won a cup.

If you outright said "yeah I went to them and asked them to waive, their time is up here, they are just prolonging the situation when they have played like shit in the playoffs while taking all our cap space" they'd waive real quick from the heat.

Why would a player stay in a city where he isn't wanted and the ownership has no confidence in the player? Has that ever happened? No because it makes no sense from anybody's perspective.

Seguin was traded after they lost to Chicago in 2013 and haven’t won a cup since.

Remember when Leon played on one leg in the playoffs. He didn’t get 3 weeks to a month off to rest it. Kept going and putting up numbers.

He only played on one leg at the defensive end. He was totally fine when on offense.

 

[Sniper99]

They'd waive if you threaten to go public with it.

I mean it depends on how much balls you have, Boston traded away two young studs (Segiun, Thornton) and then won a cup, Vegas traded their most beloved player in Fleury and then won a cup.

If you outright said "yeah I went to them and asked them to waive, their time is up here, they are just prolonging the situation when they have played like shit in the playoffs while taking all our cap space" they'd waive real quick from the heat.

Why would a player stay in a city where he isn't wanted and the ownership has no confidence in the player? Has that ever happened? No because it makes no sense from anybody's perspective.

and what GM is going to do something that f***in stupid? Go on i'll wait....

Also get your facts straight about Seguin.

 

[Canadian Finn]

he's a beta cuck and those types aren't successful in life.

but he's rich.

and that's all he cares about.

 

[FerrisRox]

He is a very good regular season player but he just sucks in the playoffs, what the biggest issue with Marner?

He will blame the media but he does not help himself in any way by shutting up his critics. Maybe his father is too involved in his career.

If the Maple Leafs lose this series and Marner does not make an impact, there will be massive questions and Marner can't blame the media.

Mitch Marner reminds me of Johnny Gaudreau in Calagry.

He's a very soft player. He doesn't like being hit. He won't pay a physical price to make a play and that aspect of the game is amplified dramatically in the post season. There's less time, less space and more physicality and all of those things work against Mitch Marner.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

He is sabotaging the leafs for bringing tavares in, and stealing money off matthews and his table.

 

[viper0220]

He is sabotaging the leafs for bringing tavares in, and stealing money off matthews and his table.

He has money on his table, he is not getting McDavid money, no f”ing way should that happen:

 

[Givememoneyback]

You mean like last year’s Conn Smythe winner?

To be fair, he's payed a little more.

 

[Heldig]

The Leafs aren't a soft team.

Mentally and/or psychologically, maybe they are. But physically, they really aren't.

NHL Team Hits Per Game 2023-2024 | StatMuse

The Montreal Canadiens averaged 22.22 hits per game this season.

www.statmuse.com

Their best players can be thrown off their games when the physicality ramps up, though.

Same issue as the Jets. Star players wilt under pressure.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I would’ve dealt him before the NMC kicked in. He just hasn’t shown up when needed. Isn’t willing to pay the price to get close to the net. Perimeter player…

If he’s going to turn things around, now would be the time.

 

[BTP]

Absolutely nothing. He's been fine. If leafs go on a run, he will be great.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

He is soft as marshmallows along with being on a team that is known for being soft. Just not a good combo.

 

[Anemia]

Players like him need a good Mitch slapping to get going. Not sure the Leafs have the leadership for that.

 

[McDrailers]

“You better start skating Mitch I swear to god” - Half of Toronto

 

[theMajor]

nylander telling him "stop f***ing crying bro, this isnt junior" on the bench while marner has a tantrum...lmao