Speculation: What would it take to trade up to 2nd or 3rd overall?

[Unfriendly Ghost]

It's all I can do to not give in to despair.

What do you think the price would be?

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[Hen Kolland]

It's all I can do to not give in to despair.

What do you think the price would be?

An imaginary lottery system that will reward us one of those picks after our next failed playoff run.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The price of moving up isn't much... It's the fact that there's is very rarely a team willing to move out of the top 3.

In all likelihood, the only way it's happening is if Ottawa feels they can still get an elite forward at #5 and want to pick Drysdale and add a 2nd.

 

[Vladdy84]

Trade Larkin, Mantha and #4. Probably wouldn't get it done though.

 

[MBH]

Trade Larkin, Mantha and #4. Probably wouldn't get it done though.

For #2??? Why?

LA needs defense. They are stacked up front.
They could go forward - but really - they've got Turcotte, Vilardi Kupari, Kaliyev, Thomas, Dolan-Anderson, etc

If they did trade down for defense, i think they need the help more on the right side than the left.

So what does it cost to move up from 4 to 2?
The 32, for sure.
And then maybe a prospect.

I'm not sure that's what I'd root for.

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

Trade Larkin, Mantha and #4. Probably wouldn't get it done though.

You think LA would turn down Larkin + Mantha + 4th for 2nd?

Can I get some of what you're drinkin?!

 

[ZDH]

For #2??? Why?

LA needs defense. They are stacked up front.
They could go forward - but really - they've got Turcotte, Vilardi Kupari, Kaliyev, Thomas, Dolan-Anderson, etc

If they did trade down for defense, i think they need the help more on the right side than the left.

So what does it cost to move up from 4 to 2?
The 32, for sure.
And then maybe a prospect.

I'm not sure that's what I'd root for.

It would take a hell of a lot more than that package to walk away from this draft w Byfield.

Nobody at 4 is close to that caliber of prospect.

 

[ZDH]

So what does it cost to move up from 4 to 2?
The 32, for sure.
And then maybe a prospect.

Maybe a prospect? It would take more than 32 and a mid level prospect to make that jump. A lot more.

 

[MBH]

It would take a hell of a lot more than that package to walk away from this draft w Byfield.

Nobody at 4 is close to that caliber of prospect.

Maybe.
But considering many already had Byfield falling to 3, maybe not.

 

[Dotter]

Fun topic to gaze at, but never going to happen.

 

[Bondurant]

If you're Mystery Team, LA or Ottawa what do you want from this roster?

 

[ShanahanMan]

Lol, Larkin and Mantha together wouldn’t even cut it for a 2nd.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Trade Larkin, Mantha and #4. Probably wouldn't get it done though.

Uhh, that is way overpaid compared to the historical value of moving up within the top 5...

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

Lol, Larkin and Mantha together wouldn’t even cut it for a 2nd.

Crazy talk man. LA takes that and runs away laughing.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

4th, one of Tuomisto/Cholowski/Berggren and 32nd?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

4th, one of Tuomisto/Cholowski/Berggren and 32nd?

32nd is the kicker. I highly doubt LA or Ottawa cares to add one of those prospects.

 

[evolutionbaby]

If anything we should look at going back. Ott and Ana have picks to give. That could be our best trade option and gain another second

 

[lilidk]

I only trade up to get early 30es picks.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I feel like: Raymond, Drysdale, Sanderson, Askarov are the 4 they look at hard, possilby trading down for another prospect/2nd?

Re: Trading Up, to 2/3, I'd entertain the offer.

 

[K1900L]

LA desperately need defenders. Ottawa won't let Stützle or Byfield fall, Senators GM Pierre Dorion already said somewhere that Laf, Byfield and Stützle are his top 3. Trading up to Ottawa's 3th could even come to a higher price than trading up to LA's 2nd, as LA's focus before the lottery was on defenders and they will definitely get one at 4th.
Yzerman would be stupid not trying to trade up, and LA is the team to go.
The #4 and #32 pick and a defensive prospect could do it. I personally would even be okay with adding another prospect/player.

 

[RedWingzz]

Trade Larkin, Mantha and #4. Probably wouldn't get it done though.

Wait...what? You don't think Larkin, Mantha and #4 would get you #2?

That's insane lol...surely you're trolling here

 

[ShanahanMan]

LA desperately need defenders. Ottawa won't let Stützle or Byfield fall, Senators GM Pierre Dorion already said somewhere that Laf, Byfield and Stützle are his top 3. Trading up to Ottawa's 3th could even come to a higher price than trading up to LA's 2nd, as LA's focus before the lottery was on defenders and they will definitely get one at 4th.
Yzerman would be stupid not trying to trade up, and LA is the team to go.
The #4 and #32 pick and a defensive prospect could do it. I personally would even be okay with adding another prospect/player.

Dorion and Blake both said today they’re taking forwards.

 

[K1900L]

Dorion and Blake both said today they’re taking forwards.

Yup, we would need to give up someone like Bertuzzi, Larkin or Mantha and the 4th in order to make it happen.
Highly sceptical.

 

[Oddbob]

The cost would not be worth moving up.

 

[Henkka]

Dorion and Blake both said today they’re taking forwards.

So are we because you don't waste the best forward draft for a while for a defenceman.

Ottawa with their 5th is the most probable taker for Drysdale.

Think the only move after a talent drop (after top3) is to trade down on equal and deep talent pool.